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All those Emails, Facebook, & joyetech Social Website posts to joyetech for so long to get then to release a larger Evic VTC All-in-One Egrip Convertible mod & this is what they release? They are giving away 200 of them. They can keep them as far as I am concerned!
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God they frustrate the hell out of me!
 
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Have you & did it improve?
I killed three drills in the stainless steel, but i'm sure it will improve.
If i replace a labytrinth with a short cut, the air will have no choice, on carburetors it works.
Drilling the airholes in the CS-Base to 1.8mm was also an improvement.
I'm always trying to have the hole under the coil as the throttle, that defines the strength of the draw, the airway up to this point should be free.
 
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Existing Evic VTC control panel has all you describe as well as reliable TC in a package admittedly larger, but still compact. A replaceable 18650 is the answer to battery life, which the VTC has. If Joyetech could just run atty wires with banana sockets to the battery sled in parallel to the existing 510, they could create an egrip style tank module with the improvements you list that can replace the battery door on the existing mod and have capacity and performance to put Nebox to shame. This would mean tank could be easily removed from electronics for disassembly & cleaning away from electronics as well. Because it would be modular several configurations of airflow, capacity and performance could be created for separate marketing. Ie: They could do a CS/CL/CLR Module, a Cubis Module, high performace RBA modules or several with different sized and styles of build decks, chambers, airflow and capacities, etc.

It would make the Evic VTC into a modular convertible mod that could have the original configuration, the various Egrip Modules, a Sqonker module, a low tank "VTR" style module, a "Disguiser" concealed tank style module, or a parallel 18650 battery module for extended battery life. The versatility of the mod would be unmatched in the industry and the marketing of the modules would be a huge side business as they could market a new module for any tank configuration that emerges on the market in the future. The same concept can be applied to the Reuleaux in dual battery modes for DNA200 (133w) & RX200 (150w) forms. Both would be wildly popular for years to come.

It would be so easy for them to do, but they just won't listen after a year & half of telling them. They probably think I'm a nut case by now and I am probably on Junk email list company wide.
The trick to make money is to sell with every step of improvement or change an other 1.000.000 devices, that's the way to stay in buisness for years. I don't want to know, how many ideas are burried in drawers and raise after years like Phoenix
 
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The trick to make money is to sell with every step of improvement or change an other 1.000.000 devices, that's the way to stay in buisness for years. I don't want to know, how many ideas are burried in drawers and raise after years like Phoenix
Agreed, however the Evic VTC & Rx200 series have pretty much reached market saturation levels and are therefore nearing the end of the theoretical life cycle, but for these mods the functionality and capabilities of the mods have also grown greatly since their initial release through firmware upgrades effectively eliminating the need to replace the mod.

Evic VTC owners and RX200 are not feeling the need to rush right out to buy another Evic VTC for $65 because they are now selling them with a Cubis Tank on top. If they however made the changes in hardware I described that allowed the versatility and convert ability I described I'm willing to bet 75% - 85% of current owners would be compelled to buy the upgraded hardware version so they could enjoy that versatility and also buy at least one to two modules in support of the new hardware just to say they owned this very versatile and convertible unit even if the other modules were rarely, if ever used if only to show others how they could change the configuration at will. I would buy one to three of the mod at $75 - $80, the Egrip module, the VTR Module, and the parallel 18650 module very quickly at say $30 ea. I would definitely buy a larger capacity Egrip varient module and I would definitely buy an upgraded Egrip module that incorporated a SteamCrave style Velocity RBA deck and an Egrip varient module that allowed the use of Uwell Crown coils perhaps others that used coils from a TFV4 or another new & popular atty configuration that takes the market by storm some time in the Future. Joyetech could literally collect royalty fees to allow tank manufacturers to incorporate their tank design into Joyetechs modular system.

Not only would I do so for the Evic version I would do it for the RX as well but perhaps not to the same degree due to the size/pocket-ability of the package, but many would. Replacing a bad unit by buying only the control panel would become a lot more palatable rather than throwing the entire system into the bin or upgrading a RX200 to a DNA200 would be easier to justify to certain people if the modules for one were compatible with the other.

The idea is you are not just selling a mod. You are selling a modular system of mod control panels, battery and atty configurations that can be built upon incrementally and many would feel compelled to collect the entire line of accessories for the system just as they many do for cordless tools.
 
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I killed three drills in the stainless steel, but i'm sure it will improve.
If i replace a labytrinth with a short cut, the air will have no choice, on carburetors it works.
Drilling the airholes in the CS-Base to 1.8mm was also an improvement.
I'm always trying to have the hole under the coil as the throttle, that defines the strength of the draw, the airway up to this point should be free.
Something tells me it wasn't the hardness of the Stainless steel so much as getting the bit started in the center of the coin slot that was the problem. The key to that for me was to use a center punch to mak it & then drill a small pilot bit hole in the center of the slot and then enlarge the hole with progressively larger bits. Much easier to do that way.

On the CL oled version the extra Airflow intake at base greatly improved airflow 30-50% but then the vent tube inside diameter then became the restriction point. Joyetech did not drill the vent tubes out completely evenly on the CL but had a greater restriction up toward the mouthpiece well (assumed they did this intentionally to control spit-back by creating a slower airflow rate through the bottom of the tube than at the top. Drilling the tube helped a bit but there was only so far I felt comfortable modifying the original vent tube as I did not want to compromise integrity.
 
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The quality of the drills was the problem, not the center punch, thanks.
Open draw is not my thing, as long as 'm not sweating while vaping, i'm ok.
Till today the only restriction i found in the vent tubes was the coil use, spit-back was never a problem, because i'm using bent pipe mouthpieces. Cold Drip-Tip, cold vape, flat.
 

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Anyone using or used the CLR 0.5 or CL 0.5 coils in the Egrip ?
It says it fires down to 0.4 but I'm a bit hesitant
I have used them in a CL non TC version and found they didn't get enough air w/ stock airflow to allow them to perform adequately & unnecessarily drained battery faster than the 1 ohm
 

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I lost it today with the eGrip. Battery lasts for like two ridiculous hours (I'm a medium vaper I think).

Went to get a regular mod (Wimsec Presa + Aspire Cleito). I'll miss the all-in-one, but I'm already happier. RIP eGrip, January 19 - March 16, shameful lifespan.
Sorry to hear it. Yeah that Egrip VT does not seem like it was Joyetech's most shining moment. You can buy them now for $26 & change on sale. Glad I passed on it and stuck w/ the Nebox. Nebox would be great if you could just stick a DNA 75w in there.

The Presa is practically same internally as the Evic VTC so it should serve you very well indeed. Good luck with it!
 

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Just got myself a Nebox. Hadn't previously been interested but saw one for a really good price and took the plunge. I really like it - despite previously not getting on with my Subtank Nano or direct-lunging in general. Made me realise it's a bit pointless having temp control on the Egrip as the Egrip just doesn't have enough power/airflow or the right coils for it to work well.

I'll still use my Egrips because it's impossible to vape stealthily with a Nebox - too many clouds.

IMO the best Egrip version is the OLED. It's the most versatile with the CS base/BVC coils, the (leaky) CL base/CLR coils or the RBA base. The removable chimney/temp control on the VT is not worth sacrificing the RBA base for.

The Nebox isn't perfect either, in fact I'm sending mine back to the shop. It's an early version with dodgy resistance reading, old style coils and the obligatory leaks. I've ordered a replacement because it vapes so well and I like the form factor.

@Tpat591 - have you seen this thread?
Aspire Has just released the new Plato Mod!

Looks interesting - I do like those Nautilus coils.
You were interested in this weren't you?
Aspire Plato Kit $42.99
 

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ecig is giving away an eGrip VT for free with any order $99 or more. I know nothing about these things. But I found that VapeNW sold eGrip RBAs. Great I bought two of those. I got everything today and the eGrip RBA doesn't fit. Damn! Used one of the stock coils and it taste like monkey ..... No wonder they are giving these things away for free. :facepalm:
 
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Yeah those RTA thingies were for the older eGrip CL and/or Oled versions I think.

I honestly do not know if Im stupid or what, but I bought a Cubis two days ago: 1.0 SS coil tasted like charcoal instantly, 0.5 worked awesome for 24 hours, then charcoal again... then changed to the 1.5 Clapton and lasted two vapes before tasting burnt again.

Went back to the Cleito. I was looking for less airflow Cubis was perfect, but its coils are terrible. Or is it me? I'll never know. I will say this, Ive been vaping for 5 weeks on the same Cleito coil and it still tastes great!

Getting back on track/conclusion. If I ever go back to all in ones, I'm gonna give the Plato a try.
 
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ecig is giving away an eGrip VT for free with any order $99 or more. I know nothing about these things. But I found that VapeNW sold eGrip RBAs. Great I bought two of those. I got everything today and the eGrip RBA doesn't fit. Damn! Used one of the stock coils and it taste like monkey .... No wonder they are giving these things away for free. :facepalm:
Egrip is and always has been airflow starved. While it will never be a cloud machine, it will provide a passable vape if you drill an air intake hole at the center of the coin slot in that CL base. Been a long time but I think I used a 7/32 bit on my old CL units. Wont leak unless you leave it sitting idle for days on end unsused with juice in it and then only a little oozing.

The RBA base has been adapted by some by drilling the chamber lid out large enough to accept the new chimney Dia. Leaves for a tight building space but there was a guy in the Evic VT thread that managed to adapt it for use without modifying the chimney/vent tube. (another guy completely screwed his vent tube up by modifying it instead of the RBA cap).

Joyetech seems to be married to that obsolete Egrip design for some reason. Been trying to get them to add banana plug sockets to the Evic VTC Battery sled so you could pick up the atty wires & connect an Egrip style tank module in place of the existing battery cover for years now. They just wont listen though.
 
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Thanks Beto and Tpat. Say will these eGo One CLR Head (Rebuildable) 5 Pack work with the eGrip VT?
Yes but you need to knock out the top cap sleeve for the larger chimney diameter. Easily done with w/ a #2 Phillips. Put top cap on a firm surface., put Phillips bit in top hole Of cap and give it a whack. Sleeve should pop right out.
 

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Yes but you need to knock out the top cap sleeve for the larger chimney diameter. Easily done with w/ a #2 Phillips. Put top cap on a firm surface., put Phillips bit in top hole Of cap and give it a whack. Sleeve should pop right out.
Oh... you are talking about those eGrip RBA that I bought that doesn't fit, right? Ok about that, I have a little machine shop here. But those "eGo One CLR Head" looks just like the stock CL heads, but you can unscrew them apart to change the cotton and/or coil. The R part of CLR means rebuildable.
 
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