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Something a large number of people here seem not to realize is that toppers need to be matched to the peculiarities of the istick. Just because your 1.8 Ω coil/wick assembly worked fine with your high zoot ACME apv doesn't mean it's going to work the same way with the iStick. If you're experiencing dry/burnt hits the resistance of whatever coil you're using with whatever topper is too low for the iStick. Simple remedy - increase the resistance of the coils you're using.

It's not rocket science.

No it`s not but that doesn`t explain a 2.8 ohm Kanger coil fail and a 3.0 ohm coil in a r91% fail.
It is really simple, some of these sticks do not work correctly.

It has nothing to do with mean vs RMS, some of these sticks do not work correctly.
and did I mention some of these sticks do not work correctly. :(
 

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Something a large number of people here seem not to realize is that toppers need to be matched to the peculiarities of the iStick. Just because your 1.8 Ω coil/wick assembly worked fine with your high zoot ACME apv doesn't mean it's going to work the same way with the iStick. If you're experiencing dry/burnt hits the resistance of whatever coil you're using with whatever topper is too low for the iStick. Simple remedy - increase the resistance of the coils you're using.

It's not rocket science.

That was evident thanks.
 

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    No it`s not but that doesn`t explain a 2.8 ohm Kanger coil fail and a 3.0 ohm coil in a r91% fail.
    It is really simple, some of these sticks do not work correctly.

    It has nothing to do with mean vs RMS, some of these sticks do not work correctly.
    and did I mention some of these sticks do not work correctly. :(
    I agree , mine will work fine then burnt, 3 new bvc coils on Nautilus. Great for 2 hits then I have to turn down to min, then back up , no regulation.
     

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    Not sure how that's possible. If it is, it speaks to the wildly variable performance of these things.

    I use 1.8 ohm coils and even ay 7 watts, I get the dry burned thing. I put the same tank on an MPV 2, I can go up to 11 watts (full power) with no issues what so ever. I know the old story is "reduce 1 watt for the eleaf factor" but reducing 4 watts and still getting burned?

    Not acceptable.

    It's very possible, as I said I rebuilt the bvc atomizer, my wick is way less dense than the original one, it's also a completely different wicking material than the original. With a less dense wick the atomizer wicks quicker. So... That's how it's possible, and it wasn't real hard to make possible either, maybe you should see if it will run a lower wattage when in vv mode, not sure it will but it's a suggestion. I never had a problem with the bvc's except for the very first one, but if you want to take the nautilus to the next level and see that what I'm saying is possible then rebuild one, you'll understand...
     

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    Hehehe... How true. Or you could visit ECF and ask some questions before you buy anything. :D That's what I've been doing for years...



    You don't need a BVC coil. But you do need a higher resistance single-coil atty (I'd say ~3Ω), or any old dual-coil atty, or any good RBA with great wicking plus plenty of airflow. :)

    Good luck.
    B&M put it in my hands, I honestly didn't even a chance to, I was sold. All I saw was they pretty shiny thing and I sat vaping gloriously till I got it home the coil was mangled and my chest was ...... at me :( then I ran here. Thank you.
     

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    Just because your 1.8 Ω coil/wick assembly worked fine with your high zoot ACME apv doesn't mean it's going to work the same way with the iStick. If you're experiencing dry/burnt hits the resistance of whatever coil you're using with whatever topper is too low for the iStick. Simple remedy - increase the resistance of the coils you're using.

    It's not rocket science.

    My" high zoot ACME apv" (all of them) do very well with whatever coil I put on them. The iStick works very well with those same coils as long as I remember that The Stick is a little (or a lot) out of the norm. I was gonna get a Rocket Science book to read up on but now I know that vaping the iStick is NOT rocket science I don't have to bother. Thanks.
     

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    I'm pretty sure it's very close to 19mm. Looky here--he's using a 19 mm Emow:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebZVFY4Q7q0

    well - i don't care all that much for the looks of it and i'm skeptical as to measurements. my istick measures 20mm across the top and there's room left and right of the gadget :?:

    never mind - measurements were posted ;)
     
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    Thank you, thank you, thank you so very much! :wub:

    So, do you like it?

    The jury is still out (on the adapter) since I just got it in the mail moments before posting the pic.
    I can say right now I'm not getting any dry burnt hits.

    I don't think the iStick is consistent across all users. What optimal or phenomenal for others isn't for the rest of us.

    I don't feel like looking for the rocket science post right now- but I got the feeling that person thinks anyone having issues with the iStick is too stupid to know anything about coils or only started vaping 10 min ago.
    I had 2 iSticks & 2 Nautilus tanks. I gave one set away to a friend. Her setup vapes flawlessly; mine doesn't which when you think about it is ridiculous considering they're both the same.
     

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    B&M put it in my hands, I honestly didn't even a chance to, I was sold. All I saw was they pretty shiny thing and I sat vaping gloriously till I got it home the coil was mangled and my chest was ...... at me :( then I ran here. Thank you.

    Ouch... and they didn't warn you about Eleaf volts? They should have--seriously.

    So sorry.
     

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    .....It has nothing to do with mean vs RMS, some of these sticks do not work correctly.
    and did I mention some of these sticks do not work correctly. :(

    Very likely some of these low cost, apparently sketchy quality control beasts are not working correctly, not much of a surprise for a V1 of any APV or topper ever sold.

    The difference in mean and RMS is only in the number shown in the display, not a difference in output. Anymore that measuring temperature in celsius, farenhight, of kelvin....no matter the number on the thermometer, you freeze your buns off when you walk outside, particularly in the past week....:laugh:
     

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    Alright so who's going to be the 1st to post a pic of 2 istick one with bendy adaptor and one without with same tanks side by side to compare height 

    Scandalex! :D

    This is the best I could do. Gotta get dinner ready then sit down for my Thurs. night line-up.

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    My" high zoot ACME apv" (all of them) do very well with whatever coil I put on them. The iStick works very well with those same coils as long as I remember that The Stick is a little (or a lot) out of the norm. I was gonna get a Rocket Science book to read up on but now I know that vaping the iStick is NOT rocket science I don't have to bother. Thanks.

    LMAOOOOOOOO!!!!! I feel like I wrote this post.
    BRAVO to you!!!!!!!!!!!!


    My "high zoot ACME apv's"!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Ouch... and they didn't warn you about Eleaf volts? They should have--seriously.

    So sorry.

    Well whatever I have to do I eventually will, to be honest I troubleshoot and figure stuff out. If he told me the difference I don't think I would have seen red flags. I know I can stick my dripper on it and call it a day, I don't want to drip 15 hrs a day.... I could exchange it when they get the rest in.... But I think it's all devices, just the atomizers have slight flaws that aren't evident till these turkey cookers throw everything they got while at full battery, only the perfect atomizers could make it. It does feel unregulated though. I'm not angry about my purchase b/c when they work I'll get first in line knowing what should be fixed so I already know how it is and am better informed on the next PV from them.
    Where's a rocket when you need one? Like an ACME rocket with a protank..... Beep beep
     

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    reddog,

    Looks like the iStick might be the wrong APV for you.

    After getting my first iStick about two months ago (I now own two), it didn't take me very long to conclude that the iStick would be---for me, anyway---a very specialized power source. My collection of vaping hardware is quite large---I have more than 100 PVs and APVs, and I use them to power many different kinds of Juice Delivery Systems (JDS---i.e., atomizers, often called "toppers" on this thread): old-school 510 and 306 atties for dripping, clearomizers of numerous types and designs (although these days, most of my clearos are bottom-coil clones that use Kanger-style heads, which I rebuild), tanks of many kinds (including Kanger and Aspire tanks, plus RTAs such as Kayfuns and newer generation Orchids, Erlkonigins, etc.), and various RBAs for my bottom-feeder mods. I even sub-ohm moderately with my mechanicals at times, although most of my builds stay in the 1-2 ohm range.

    What became apparent and obvious to me early on was that---in my case, at least---I would end up using my iSticks exclusively with either of two devices: the Aspire BVC Mini Nautilus tank or Aspire BVC clearos. And that's what I've done. Why? Because the relatively recent bottom vertical coils from Aspire and their proprietary tanks and clearos that use those coils seem to me perfectly matched with the iStick. The Mini Naut and CE5 clearos are ergonomically and aesthetically well-suited to the diminutive size of the iStick, and the bottom vertical coils are designed in such a way as to easily handle the iStick's rather aggressive implementation of power (Vavg as opposed to Vrms, which may not be the sole cause of your running-too-hot burnt juice symptoms, but is certainly a contributing factor in general).

    Right now, I'm running a BVC Mini Naut on one iStick, set to 9 Eleaf watts, and a BVC clearo on the other, set to 8 Eleaf watts. Both could perform well at considerably higher settings---and many people do this---but I'm very satisfied with the vape quality I get right where they are now, which maximizes the run time of the iStick's 2200 mAh battery.

    Many iStick owners seem able to make other devices work well on their iSticks, but my experience was similar enough to yours that I gave up trying quite awhile back. The difference is that you're unhappy with your iStick, while I'm quite pleased with both of mine, as long as I use Aspire BVC coils on them. For me, that was the easiest solution. YMMV, of course.

    While I mostly enjoy rebuilding coils and heads, I'll admit there's certain charm in getting such a high-quality vaping experience from the Aspires. Use a BVC coil for two weeks or so, then toss it, slap on a brand-new factory coil head, and vape away. No, it's not as inexpensive as a quick rebuild, but it sure is convenient.

    Good post! I have exclusively used Nautilus on both of my iSticks with great satisfaction. I have plenty of Mods that I use for other devices.
     

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    Good post! I have exclusively used Nautilus on both of my iSticks with great satisfaction. I have plenty of Mods that I use for other devices.

    but let's not overlook this

    i had 2 iSticks & 2 Nautilus tanks. I gave one set away to a friend. Her setup vapes flawlessly; mine doesn't which when you think about it is ridiculous considering they're both the same.
     

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    but let's not overlook this

    Yes it is quite clear now that there is a problem with some iSticks which is a pity, I feel for those effected, one can only hope that replacements will be made available.
    Its a pity QC failed in the rush to supply the Mod hungry customer, as this is a great device with long waiting list with most vendors.
     
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