Eleaf Istick

[Javamon]

My first No Atomizer Experience: boo

I was looking for non metal tips for my Eleaf GS Air tank. Which, BTW, I think is a Great value.
I eventually decided I wanted to go with plastic whistle type tips. I saw that Eleaf's BCC-GT tank had such a tip, and it was so inexpensive at evape.us, that I decided to get that tip by ordering that tank.

Tank came in - once again, in record time by evape.us. They are the Best. The tank itself - the verdict is out. I slapped an adapter on the tank, screwed it onto the iStick, and I'm splitting time between brief vapes and - the dreaded No Atomizer message. N.G. For now, the tip is off that tank, and on my reliable GS Air.

To be continued.

 

[shack22]

While I think he puts significant energy into it all, count me as one who is not as impressed as the rest.
Some of the things cited in reviews are nonsense - leading me to believe other factors are at work.

The citing of the .8 second delay for the Cloupor mini is - nonsense.

I think he gives his honest, unbiased opinion in his reviews. He impresses me(not real difficult though )

 

[Katdarling]

RMS and Mean are two different ways of describing a waveform dependent on its amplitude and duty cycle, nothing is smoothed out. If the signal is smoothed out (aka MVP & Provari) RMS & Mean no longer apply.

I so wish I understood all this......

Sorry, quick question about the new iStick 30w. Buddy of mine got his, but we can't screw the atty fully on. Gap stays. Only few threads catch. As the pin of the atty, a Naughty Mini, has a longer pin, we get connection. Suggestions? Screw it in with oil and firce or send back for replacement?
Thanks.

R

*via Tapatalk

No-O.... never mind.

Thanks, that is actually one of the posts I'm referring to. Based on his chart, the istick 30w fires .4 above the display reading. 25% he approximately estimates. That's why I find it funny that I think my iStick 30w is UNDER powered. We're all using the same iSticks here.

Or are we...... <cue Twilight Zone>

Mr. Busardo is probably waiting to do a combined 30W/50W review. The technology between the two is probably very similar.

What you will see is simple, at least for the 30watter. Below 3V, PWM with a peak voltage of 5V and average (mean) tuning powers the device. This is silly as a setting of 2.9V dissipates more watts at the coil than a 3V setting. From 3-3.9V, light filtering is employed, creating a dirty but flat signal that gets cleaner the closer it gets to 4V. While tuned to RMS, at 3V, the dirty signal fires the resistance load (coil) approximately 10% hotter than the setting calls for. It gets far more accurate, the closer it gets to 4V. From 4V to 8V, the output is a flat, very accurate DC signal. It's resolution of adjustability is still limited to 0.1V. (Meaning a wattage setting calling for a 100th variation [ie. 4.55V] simply rounds to the nearest tenth.) The output is definitely not adjustable by tenths of Watts but closer to half a Watt, depending on the resistance of the atomizer.

See the post containing thoughts and oscilloscope traces here:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...tick-50w-coming-jan-25th-12.html#post15039009

The iStick 20W runs very noticeably hot until it gets to around 5V output, where things start to even out. Depending on the battery level, the 20watter is a 3.8V or 4.1V to 5.5V device.

The takeaway? The iStick 30W is a far superior low-wattage APV. It is a great vape from 3.3V to 8V; simply adjust to taste. With the same output, it's battery life matches that of the 20watter, if not somewhat better. At approximately 25W, the 30watter is a 6-8 hour device if vaped somewhat heavily. I expect the iStick 50W to show similar results within its own specifications. If we expect premium quality and regulation, we should be prepared to pay a premium price. In vaping, as in the rest of life, there is rarely a free lunch.

Six months ago, a 1300mAh twist/spinner EGO cost us $20-30. We accepted these devices with all their limitations and inaccuracies just to have some adjustability in our vape. Most maxed out around 10W. A very few VW models could hit 15W under very certain circumstances (2.5Ω @ 6V). The battery life at high output was abysmal. The iStick family is an evolution of the twist/spinners, replacing them and the multitudes of 15W devices that flooded the market at up to thrice the price (VAMO, ZMAX, SVD, VTR, etc.). Anyone who vapes below 30W will probably love this in their collection. I don't recommend ANYTHING as an only device. Always have a backup. Purchase two. You'll be well covered.

As inexpensive devices (both APVs and atomizers) immensely improve and before the FDA decides our regulatory future, it is a pretty good time to be a vaper.

alden, you are not only DA MAN, you are my hero.

Tapping bottoms? We are still on vaping topics, yes?

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It's out.

http://www.gearbest.com/electronic-cigarettes/pp_142497.html

I'm sure it's a better battery, quality-wise, than the iStick, but it does look very...err... industrial...

Not quite what I was hoping for. I wanted an MVP 3 with Evolv's temperature limiting chipset and possibly redesigned to make it smaller and more ergonomic.

I'm not so sure that I want/need this one.

Ummm...... yeah/no. Not fer me!

I'm not sure if this is the same thing you guys are experiencing with the iStick30, but if it helps i have an iStick20 that had button rattle pretty badly, and it was fixed quite easily -- what it came down to is that the plastic plate the buttons are mounted on is just a little short, and the end caps don't hold it snug.

If you remove the bottom cap (I believe it has T7 screws), you'll notice the black plastic plate is in a "slot". Simply put a small spacer between the END of the plastic plate (i.e. the surface that's about 3/4" long) and the bottom plate, and screw the bottom cap back on. I used a piece of Scotch tape folded over so it was four layers thick. The place where the plastic plate should contact the end cap will be pretty obvious once you look at the inside of the cap.

YAY!!!!!!! Modding with scotch tape! Now you're talkin'!

Is it just me or is that aimed at funeral directors & lawyers?

mud....

 

[Katdarling]

My istick 20w is coming up on 5 months old, and has been great, No button rattle, stripped threads. It's still working perfectly.

Worth a quote..... just because...

 

[Katya]

Ummm...... yeah/no. Not fer me!

*sigh*

I know...

 

[whodat2112]

I wish that they would have left the fire button in the same place on the thirty watt as the MVP2 and the 20 watt

I liked it where it was.
If they come in at less than $50.00 when released, I'm definitely getting one!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[aldenf]

It's out.

http://www.gearbest.com/electronic-cigarettes/pp_142497.html

I'm sure it's a better battery, quality-wise, than the iStick, but it does look very...err... industrial...

Not quite what I was hoping for. I wanted an MVP 3 with Evolv's temperature limiting chipset and possibly redesigned to make it smaller and more ergonomic.

I'm not so sure that I want/need this one.

Good catch, Katya! No price listed yet. I wonder when they'll be in stock.

Innokin finally listed them on the website. No dimensions or battery specs are provided. Must not be very "Mini". It is a bit on the industrial-looking side.

iTaste MVP V3.0

I too was hoping for the much talked-about 25W Evolv chipset with temperature protection. At this point it still seems to be vaporware. I wonder if the new partnership with Evolv is slowing Innokin up.
I'd also be interested in a DNA 40 version at around $100. Not gonna happen. But one can dream.

 

[Javamon]

I look forward to a bit of a fast forward where it will be no longer acceptable for all these companies to throw products into the market that have zero effort put into the designed shape of the mod. Too many mods coming out are beyond ugly.

 

[Sun Valley]

My iStick 30 arrived from vapordna last night. I'm really enjoying it so far. Now for one of those silicone cases as soon as I can find one in stock. I may have to experiment with coils now too. I built my coil at 1.5 ohm because all I had was evod style batteries. [emoji15]

 

[Katdarling]

My iStick 30 arrived from vapordna last night. I'm really enjoying it so far. Now for one of those silicone cases as soon as I can find one in stock. I may have to experiment with coils now too. I built my coil at 1.5 ohm because all I had was evod style batteries. [emoji15]

One dollah and 15 centavos.

Eleaf Silicon Case for iStick - Cvapor.com

 

[Katya]

Good catch, Katya! No price listed yet. I wonder when they'll be in stock.

It's listed elsewhere on the site--66 bucks. Which means they will be available for around $40 soon.

http://www.gearbest.com/electronic-cigarettes-c_11281/?odr=new

Not my catch--I stole the info from VapieDan's post in the MVP thread.

Innokin finally listed them on the website. No dimensions or battery specs are provided. Must not be very "Mini". It is a bit on the industrial-looking side.

iTaste MVP V3.0

Yeah--I think they had the dimensions listed on their FB page--but I may be wrong. It looks similar in size to the other MVPs...

I too was hoping for the much talked-about 25W Evolv chipset with temperature protection. At this point it still seems to be vaporware. I wonder if the new partnership with Evolv is slowing Innokin up.
I'd also be interested in a DNA 40 version at around $100. Not gonna happen. But one can dream.

I think both are going to happen--it's just a matter of time.

Evolv has a deal with all kinds of (expensive) mod makers--they probably have the right of way. But Brandon did talk about the 25 watt mods in Phil's video. I think they will be next.

 

[ccwaters]

"Horrible" is kinda extreme imo but subjective as are so many things in vaping and life in general. For me the difference in button rattle on the 30 vs. the 20 is noticeable but I couldn't care less.If that's all anyone has to complain about then there's not much to complain about imo.

How perfect is your car? No little defects or quirky annoyances? No recalls? Hopefully it's not a GM vehicle. You spent a helluva more on any car than you did on any vaping device that I know of.

If you own a 30w iStick then you are an early adopter by choice. Want things to be closer to perfection? Then sit on the sidelines while others are the early adopters.

Early adopters do provide valuable feedback though. Perhaps Eleaf will address this minor annoyance. They certainly listened to feedback on the 20w iStick apparently. Chill and enjoy the vape.

Hmm, not sure what a car really has to do with my Istick, but to answer your question, I fix them, defects & quirks are minor annoyances.

Not sure how you interpreted my observations of the Istick as a quest for perfection, simple observations, not complaints. If the Eleaf imperfections bothered me as much as you imply I probably would not have continued purchasing . I do stand by my statement, "horrible" it is, subjective, it is, bother me, if it did I'd have fixed it already.

Your mention of Eleaf does bring up some justification to my post, even in your eyes, they do seemingly listen to feedback, so posts mentioning the button rattle sort of does serve a purpose beyond end user awareness.

 

[mudram99]

Not sure what you mean, but as a lawyer, and part time funeral director, you may be right

(seriously, what you talkin' bout willis?)

It just impressed me a battery wearin a tuxedo!

 

[mudram99]

Only the basic black ones.

Yes the colors do help, and I really loved my MVP2 in it's day (before the hernia from toting it). I am sure I will pic up one or two of these as time goes on, just wasn't wowed by it is all.

 

[aldenf]

I wish that they would have left the fire button in the same place on the thirty watt as the MVP2 and the 20 watt

I liked it where it was.
If they come in at less than $50.00 when released, I'm definitely getting one!!!!!!!!!!!

Interesting. The fire button placement was the single largest complaint about the v1 & v2.

 

[AnsonJames]

Folks - thread title;
Eleaf Istick

 

[Sun Valley]

One dollah and 15 centavos.

Eleaf Silicon Case for iStick - Cvapor.com

Thank you!

 

[aldenf]

My iStick 30 arrived from vapordna last night. I'm really enjoying it so far. Now for one of those silicone cases as soon as I can find one in stock. I may have to experiment with coils now too. I built my coil at 1.5 ohm because all I had was evod style batteries. [emoji15]

Vape on that KF Mini a while at 1.5Ω, especially if you like it there. I'm running my RTAs from 1.5 - 1.7Ω @ 12-15W. I'm very happy. Of course, experimenting is always fun. You may find a build you like even better.

 

[Sun Valley]

Vape on that KF Mini a while at 1.5Ω, especially if you like it there. I'm running my RTAs from 1.5 - 1.7Ω @ 12-15W. I'm very happy. Of course, experimenting is always fun. You may find a build you like even better.

Thanks for the advice. It's funny you mentioned that wattage range because I have been keeping it between 12 and 15. It seems to do very well right in there. I haven't bothered pushing it any higher. At 15 watts the vapor starts to get pretty warm.

 

[VapingTurtle]

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YAY!!!!!!! Modding with scotch tape! Now you're talkin'!
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If it ain't duct taped, it ain't fixed.