Eleaf Istick

[zoiDman]

ISO certification is a joke. A manufacturer can make a garbage product but as long as their process is consistent with properly documented procedures they can obtain ISO certification. It's nothing more than a garbage paper chase of the approved documents being in place. I was an internal auditor for many years with a former employer.

I Don't Think you Understand the Concept of ISO Certification.

 

[zoiDman]

All my working life I have encountered people that were either mechanically inclined or not. The latter group, in my experience, more often than not think tighter is better. They'll apply the gorilla grip to any threaded connection of any sort.

The more mechanically inclined will be knowledgeable and/or intuitive enough to apply only the torque needed to accomplish the task at hand. The more mechanically inclined person will exercise care to avoid cross threading knowing full well what that can lead to. They will exercise even more care when the threads are known to be fragile.

If a topper doesn't make electrical contact with a pv there's a reason. The solution is many if not most times not lack of torque in the mechanical connection.

But the less mechanically inclined will always continue to muddle along and blame the device rather than their own ineptitude and impatience.

This is All True.

It is Also True that someone who is Very Mechanically Inclined can get a Thread that was Poorly Cut.

 

[irwink]

This kind of commentary serves no purpose unless you are simply looking for an emotional response. There is a diagnosis for that.

Yes, human error can be the culprit. However, it does not explain the volume of identical issues with a particular model of device. A few here or there, that's one thing. But if it's widespread, there's a pattern. I'm not saying it's that, only it could be that. So whether or not it is human error or bad milling/machine work (Chinese manufacturing...go figure), there have been enough complaints by people who have not had the problem with other devices to warrant acknowledging the possibility of a manufacturing defect or poor materials. Talking down to people doesn't help them.

Back on point...the iStick is awesome! Battery life is great, steady as a rock. This thing works wonders with a Nautilus and I'm still stunned how well it cooks at such a small size. I bought 2 but think I'll get a couple more to leave in my truck. Plug that baby right into my Microsoft Sync on my F150 and always be ready on the go. Sweeeet.

Comprehension is an important component of reading. Some read and comprehend, others don't. Once again, the more mechanically inclined will recognize weakness in the materials involved in a mechanical connection and deal with it accordingly.

 

[Katya]

Yes, human error can be the culprit. However, it does not explain the volume of identical issues with a particular model of device. A few here or there, that's one thing. But if it's widespread, there's a pattern.

It also doesn't explain the lack of such issues among ProVari users, for instance.

 

[zoiDman]

It also doesn't explain the lack of such issues among ProVari users, for instance.

I read somewhere that it has been Statistically Shown that Provari Owners are Very Mechanically Inclined.

 

[Buster282]

I also read that Evic Supreme users were having thread "Stripping Issues when they first Came Out"!! in public even!

 

[DPLongo22]

We're not seriously birthing an argument related to ISO certification on an iStick thread, are we?

Anyone for quantum physics?

 

[zoiDman]

...

Anyone for quantum physics?

Raises Hand.

 

[Katdarling]

I'm in...... but make it quick, please DPL. I've got famished trick-or-treaters to feed.

 

[Bassnorma]

I love my Provaris, I love my Reo Grand. I love my XPV DNA 40D....and I didn't think I would but I also love my Istick. No troubles so far. It is not a high end mod so you cannot judge it by the same quality standards. But it does not quit, is smaller than a tic tac box and pumps out 20 watts. If you don't overtighten your attty on it, it is a lovely little stealth vape and the blue is prettier in person.

 

[zoiDman]

I'm in...... but make it quick, please DPL. I've got famished trick-or-treaters to feed.

I handed out Raw Celery last year so I don't think I'll get too many Trick-or-Treaters.

 

[DPLongo22]

I'm in...... but make it quick, please DPL. I've got famished trick-or-treaters to feed.

Don't send them here. I'm to run out of goodies soon!

And the first little creep who eggs my house is going DOWN. ;-)

 

[Katya]

I also read that Evic Supreme users were having thread "Stripping Issues when they first Came Out"!! in public even!

So did early Vamo and Sigelei Zmax users--there were mile-long threads on the subject. I have a Sigelei Zmax mini V3--the 510/eGo connection is perfect. I've been using it for over a year?--I don't remember exactly--there's no way that those threads can can stripped by casual use. And I use my heavy tanks on it.

 

[Fattlestar]

A few weeks in and my iStick's threading is a little "loose". I've taken great care when screwing down my Nautilus Mini from day one, very gentle and never over-tightening. It picks up the resistance with very little tightening, but the topper "wobbles" a little without a little more tightening. I tried the ego adapter (beauty ring on top) and it is steady, but I'm not sure if that is more healthy to use than just tightening the topper more. Terrified of messing this thing up, whether or not it is a "flawed" product to start with.

Battery life is stunning, though.

 

[Katya]

We're not seriously birthing an argument related to ISO certification on an iStick thread, are we?

Anyone for quantum physics?

Right! Raises hand! Pick me!

Dead or alive? Both???? Boo!!!!

Happy Halloween! Time to feed those greedy little trolls that will be knocking on my door soon!

Ta ta!

 

[irwink]

I Don't Think you Understand the Concept of ISO Certification.[/QUOTE
I understand it fully. Please explain how your understanding is better considering my 8 years as an ISO auditor.

 

[DPLongo22]

I handed out Raw Celery last year so I don't think I'll get too many Trick-or-Treaters.

Brilliant!!!!!!

 

[irwink]

This is All True.

It is Also True that someone who is Very Mechanically Inclined can get a Thread that was Poorly Cut.

That is true.It is also true that the mechanically inclined person will instantly recognize the fact and seek to return the factory defective product rather than seek a workaround born of impatience. Once that step is taken the user is on their own no matter the outcome.

 

[DPLongo22]

I Don't Think you Understand the Concept of ISO Certification.[/QUOTE
I understand it fully. Please explain how your understanding is better considering my 8 years as an ISO auditor.

Well, THAT would make me cranky.

 

[Bassnorma]

I Don't Think you Understand the Concept of ISO Certification.[/QUOTE
I understand it fully. Please explain how your understanding is better considering my 8 years as an ISO auditor.

It is the concept of applying it to a non-mission critical 30 dollar mod with no-SLAs that strikes us as humorous...no offense intended.

Although measuring MTBF would prove interesting....