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DaveOno

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I read about the MiniStick on eleaf's site. Is it me, or do they neglect to say it is variable wattage? Looking close, they only say variable voltage.

If true, then my bvc at 1.8 ohm can only go as high as 4.25 volts as that would hit the 10 watt ceiling.

It is mondo cute. Doesn't get much stealthier. But I really really like the capacity of the iStick battery, as it lasts me beyond one day on a charge with my vaping. Having one that goes a partial day is what I just got away from with my Tritons. I don't want to carry a spare.

I'm not too pleased with this trend. First, the iStick is using older tech with the means not RMS thing. Now the Mini doesn't do variable watts?

Having said that, I'd like to see it and hold it. It would go great with a small rda.
 

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I bet the minute it left your hands your heart proceeded to stop & everything after seemed in slow mo. LOL!!!
That's how I was the first time I dropped my ProVari.....I was like nooooooooooo as I was diving to the ground before it did.
Reminds me of a similar maneuver I had to perform after dropping my rifle in basic training.
 
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I think they should sell a case for the case, so the case doesn't get a nick on it.

Actually they do! In fact just about every other vendor carries some type of case the iStick will fit into with ease even inside the leather carrying case Eleaf sells for it. Vapor King carries a hard cover as well as waterproof cases. I grabbed the hard case that will fit the two iSticks as well as MVP into here. The ULTIMATE e-Cig or Mod carrying case

The water proof case runs for a little more you can see at e-Cigarette or mod hard waterproof case

Now if that isn't large enough you can always go with something a little larger perhaps! :laugh::laugh::laugh: I can pack both mod stands into this one! Vape Case For All Your Mods -Get A Padded Protective Vape Case For Mod
 

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I have this one (not this color)- Wood Creek Vapory Vape & Conceal bag.


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I got to that point early on at times until looking into the causes for the often seen dry wicking issues back when first starting out with CE2 and CE3 top coil long wicked atomizers in the 1.6ml replaceable as well as disposable clearomizers. You had to keep turning them upside down and spinning them once the level went down a bit in order to insure the long wicks were wet enough to supply the atomizer. Either that or suffer from burn spots on the wicks!

So far having tried out a vertical bottom coil in a new 1.6ml cllearomizer hasn't won me over either. While never getting the burnt taste it sadly lacks on both flavor and vapor output. When grabbing a buy on a pair of eGo-T 1100 dual battery starter kits for holiday gifts the vendor tossed a loose one in and I gave that a try out on one of the 650 eGo-C Twists I still have around and keep in the mod stand for the low voltage flavors.

Now as far at the Jockery portable charger mentioned earlier on the thread I gave that the full 10hr initial charge and put the MVP on it for the initial run. the two pics here will show how that looks when going to charge the larger mod.

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If you look closely down to the left along the side at the corner you will see the white button you press once the device, battery ,mod one or two are plugged in. Once you press the button the first time and the device or battery starts charging you can press the button several times and the charging led on the MVP seen there won't even blink as nothing will stop the charging process except unplugging the charging cord. The buttom simply activates the charging process while the device takes over from there.

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That Tardis skin is haunting me... I see it EVERYWHERE but I can never buy it...
 
Well I was thinking more on the lines of Olympia Drop Bottom Rolling Duffel RD-6030 - Red - FREE Shipping & Returns | Shoebuy.com I have one now that will just about cover everything I have here including three boxes of bottles of ejuice as well as the older stuff still lingering around as well as the latest still coming in! :mail::D

That Tardis skin is haunting me... I see it EVERYWHERE but I can never buy it...

Hey Susaz Try 707 Smart Skins! They have it the cheapest! http://www.707smartskins.com/collec...cts/innokin-itaste-mvp-vaporizer-battery-skin

Remember that only comes for the iTaste MVP at this time.SCRUB THAT!

CORRECTION! None found at the regular mod skin vendors like JRWRAPS or Vinyls Skinz that is or even at 707. BUT! Under "Gadgets" at Discount Vapes a choice of 5 different iStick Stickers was came upon! Scroll down about 3/4 of the page and there are five total for $0.49 each right above the Silicone eGo type battery stands. http://www.discountvapers.com/gadgets/

The five wraps as they would be called otherwise are: Flaming Skull, Classifieds, Holiday Money, and SnakeSkin. Other vendors might even have a larger variety if you can find where these are hidden under.
 
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Which means it will fire higher than 10 watts! :D


Nope, If you look at scope readings of the istick, you will find that it starts off higher then read wattage at low settings, then as you reach the max it actually reverses, not even reaching the 20 watts unless you are using a 1 ohm coil. If the mini uses mean the outcome will be similar
 

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I'm thinking the Istick Mini uses the same electronics as the iJust D16 Looks like same display, and same 10 watts, just repacked, and a different battery. Are a few reviews of that around, the one linked below is a bit more technical and gets deeper into the operation, problem is it is in what I believe is German, anyone speak German, and can give us a rough translation? That is if it is German. The English reviews are just seat of the pants experience, at least the few I've found.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE4-AnLLGN0

happy to oblige ;) the reviewer was impressed with the accuracy of the display - with a coil at 2.2 ohm he measured the following
set at 3.3v the device showed 3.23v mean and 3.22 rms
set at 4.0v ................................ 3.88v mean and 3.88 rms
set at 5.0v ................................ 4.66v mean and 4.60 rms

since this is a 10w device it reaches its limits before 5v with a 2.2ohm coil which explains the variation at the 5v setting. all in all he found the accuracy pretty much spot on ;)

oops! almost forgot - NO pwm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you can see the nice straight line for yourselves watching the video about 6 minutes in.
word of caution - this assumes that eleaf is using the same chip in the mini as in the ijust
 
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Same reviewer, I think, same oscilloscope, but now with the iStick, and the interesting hint...... with its battery near depletion!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR2YQpVLX6w

The next capture shows a test with 3,5 V as setting point in VV and 1,3 ohm resistance, and just 'one bar' in the battery-meter (11:18 and so on in that video):
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According to that, this unit drops down peak voltaje when its battery level is low, as I was told some time ago. I was told that in those circumstances (under 60 %) the peak voltage goes down to 4,8 V instead the usual 5,7 V, unless you ask the unit for more than 4,8 mean volts. Even more interesting, it shows some mean voltage drop down in that battery stage, nothing important, but it is there. It is not as accurate as it showed in other measurements (at full battery charge) when mean voltage output and requested voltage were almost the same ( a drift smaller than 0,05 V).

I know this was told before, but when we are vaping from the iStick at less than, let's say, 4,5 V, at half battery charge it changes the maximum voltage and as a result of that the RMS voltage (and the effective power) goes also down. In the other hand, the power output error is less noticeable, something that some users might get confused with the usual behaviour of Chinese VW when their battery goes down, and they would think that the iStick cannot maintain output power as the battery drains.

So much detailed engineering to save power, or whatever, and it uses mean voltages to calculate power output......that's a big bungle in my town.......even if we usually overturn our Land-Rovers by the infallible method of not unfasten our seat-belts in time when we get out of them!
 
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I read about the MiniStick on eleaf's site. Is it me, or do they neglect to say it is variable wattage? Looking close, they only say variable voltage.

If true, then my bvc at 1.8 ohm can only go as high as 4.25 volts as that would hit the 10 watt ceiling.

It is mondo cute. Doesn't get much stealthier. But I really really like the capacity of the iStick battery, as it lasts me beyond one day on a charge with my vaping. Having one that goes a partial day is what I just got away from with my Tritons. I don't want to carry a spare.

I'm not too pleased with this trend. First, the iStick is using older tech with the means not RMS thing. Now the Mini doesn't do variable watts?

Having said that, I'd like to see it and hold it. It would go great with a small rda.

I think you're right. It appears that it doesn't display wattage or Ohms.
"1.Top LED Digital Display: Display parameter (vaping seconds, battery power, current voltage) in a circular digital screen."
"2.Adjustable Voltage:press the up-and-down arrow buttons to increase/decrease the working voltage between 3.3V to 5.0V."

I'm not sure I want the led screen in my eyes with every hit either.:blink: Finger over it I guess.
It wouldn't be bad if it lit up after you released the fire button.
I think there will be a price drop on this.
 

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I think you're right. It appears that it doesn't display wattage or Ohms.
"1.Top LED Digital Display: Display parameter (vaping seconds, battery power, current voltage) in a circular digital screen."
"2.Adjustable Voltage:press the up-and-down arrow buttons to increase/decrease the working voltage between 3.3V to 5.0V."

I'm not sure I want the led screen in my eyes with every hit either.:blink: Finger over it I guess.
It wouldn't be bad if it lit up after you released the fire button.
I think there will be a price drop on this.
Having only var voltage isn't too bad if you only use one tank, or tanks with the same ohm coil.

And at $20, it's hard to complain. At $30 it is an issue. I'm sure we'll get some review videos in the next 10 days or so.

And the display on top? Cool engineering trick to relocate it from the side, making it less tall. But I'll bet quite a few of us will get cross-eyed looking at the display as we vape. (A really long drip tip? But that detracts from the small form factor.) It'll be on during the hit for the stop watch. (a feature I could do without.)

I think your high tech "digital" solution is best. :laugh::D

(and the way I hold my iStick with the adapter and curved beauty ring, my finger is there anyway...)
 

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While the mini looks cute and I love small mods, this one does not look like it will great ergonomically. Holding this and firing it seems awkward (although I haven't held it). This is just imagining 2/3 of an iStick. Anyone here have held one and can post the experience?

Aw!

I tried!

I really tried!

I must try it again.....harder!

And probably I should reduce the amount of nicotine in the meantime.... I'm now at 1-2 mg/mL, though!......:facepalm:






This was the final result after some attempts....
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I think you're right. It appears that it doesn't display wattage or Ohms.
"1.Top LED Digital Display: Display parameter (vaping seconds, battery power, current voltage) in a circular digital screen."
"2.Adjustable Voltage:press the up-and-down arrow buttons to increase/decrease the working voltage between 3.3V to 5.0V."

I'm not sure I want the led screen in my eyes with every hit either.:blink: Finger over it I guess.
It wouldn't be bad if it lit up after you released the fire button.
I think there will be a price drop on this.

What do you want for the compact mini version of the iStick? You won't have everything showing on that display. Plus that is located in the awkward spot where there's not enough room for everything seen on the iStick itself. As far as price tags that depends on where you order from since Evkoo has them listed on pre-order for $19.99. Eleaf iStick Mini 10W 1050mAh Mod

And the leather case for $4.99 at DV is found for $4.50 at HeavenGifts. Eleaf iStick Leather Case w/ Lanyard

It helps to have a scope doesn't it? Scaredmice The only thing I was able to get out of a local electronic supplier before they eventually went under was an $80 Fluke multimeter that has now only seen one 9v replacement needed in 15yrs.! I was able to buy that at the store but only people buying for the company could get anything else like a scope with a pc interface. :(

Well in the meantime the Eleat lcd power meter arrived as well as some other vape mail from Fasttech! I stuck the iStick into the snapshot to show how that looks inline with the Nautilus mini. 16 days for the other stuff seen there to come via registered mail.

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happy to oblige ;) the reviewer was impressed with the accuracy of the display - with a coil at 2.2 ohm he measured the following
set at 3.3v the device showed 3.23v mean and 3.22 rms
set at 4.0v ................................ 3.88v mean and 3.88 rms
set at 5.0v ................................ 4.66v mean and 4.60 rms

since this is a 10w device it reaches its limits before 5v with a 2.2ohm coil which explains the variation at the 5v setting. all in all he found the accuracy pretty much spot on ;)

oops! almost forgot - NO pwm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you can see the nice straight line for yourselves watching the video about 6 minutes in.
word of caution - this assumes that eleaf is using the same chip in the mini as in the ijust

Thanks! I do appreciate you taking the time to do that!

Also agree, it may not be the same as the mini, but it is likely..
 
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