you are arguing against things I never said lol. everyone should do their homework before vaping. I just said there can be manufacturing defects as well as user error. You call false ratings user error, I call it fraud by the supplier/manufacturer. You're one of those people who always blame the user, I'm one of those design engineers who know you have to design and manufacture to protect the public. Were probably never going to agree
First off the things you never said were implied by your responses to my response to you.
Context is very important if you're going to follow a conversation or an argument.
We'd be better off to focus on the reality of what actually does happen instead of a narrow view of what should happen.
Fact remains that lithium manganese and lithium Cobalt cells are far from the worst offenders in specification exaggeration.
Yet electronic cigarette users are 1 of the largest groups of and users and arguably the most ignorant group using loose lithium cells.
If you go to remote control enthusiasts forums you will find 14 year olds that are well capable and very Versed in not only usage proper care proper safety procedures as well as very diligent in matching or pairing the proper battery for the electronics that they to run in their vehicles.
And these young kids are using much more sophisticated equipment that needs to be set and programmed to charge or discharge their batteries on every cycle in a safe manner.
Even some of the most knowledgeable individuals on this site aren't capable of doing so themselves.
So yes on this subject I'm going to come off as I'm always blaming the user because if you look at for example eleaf threads you'll find people still flocking like herds of sheep to a company who has yet to release a single product not fret with issues just because the product is cheap.
The reality is this is common and people who know and have seen the issues consistently arising with their brand of choice continue to go back to them despite the inherent dangers and ignore them or better yet argue in favor of the company claiming that such issues as flames shooting from their device are minor.
So I guess I'm supposed to ignore this reality because you're an engineer?
Do you have any idea how many people have argued a certain company that puts purple wraps with exaggerated claims has better batteries because they're local B&M sells them?
I guess I should ignore that fact that half of these people made this argument after seeing the truth the grass battery wrapper torn off and see what's underneath and place blame on efest for the end user choosing to be ignorant?
So let's clear some things up.
I called purchasing a battery with false ratings what are improper for your device add user error.
I called not knowing the reliability or the capabilities of your device a user error.
I don't care what you designed or engineer there's more user error in e-cigarette users than I've ever seen in any group of people that I could imagine my entire life.
Also let's clear up that you did not just say manufacturing defects.
Also let's clear up that I did not deny that there are manufacturing defects I just said it if people acted like they had some sense they could mitigate and or minimize the results of those manufacturing defects.
Again choosing a product that you're going to put into your mouth and inhale that you know nothing about adding a battery that you know nothing about is a very idiotic moronic move.
If you disagree with that last statement and feel that somehow making those choices are not operator and user errors then it's pretty obvious that the problem around here is bigger than it looks.
Good luck protecting the public from devices you don't sign and devices that come from a country where the manufacturer will not be held responsible.
And that's why you can't idiot proof everything and the consumer has to be responsible for their own actions when they're choosing the cheapest flashiest foremost in your face thing that they can get their hands on without educating themselves.
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