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Nope. We can't have things with nicotine in it.... according to Health Canada its a "nono".
But we all seem to manage in our own ways
(to get nic that is)
But we all seem to manage in our own ways
(to get nic that is)I'll just go around and pick up used butts off the ground. Take them home and soak them in PG. Its still not as bad as smoking them.
While the possible apocalypse and life after the deluge is on the discussion table, how close to vaping is hokah use? It has to be something better than being forced back to baddies/stinkies/death sticks, yes?
I don't really think you need to worry about that, we do share the longest border in the world with the USA, as long as nic is legal there, i don't really forsee us not been able to get nic ejuice, it might just cost us a bit more.
Yeah, I really don't think there will ever be a time when we can't get nic juice. It's just a question of how we get it, whether from real vendors or bringing DIY supplies across the border on group buy runs. Or even having someone within our own borders capable of extracting and purifying nicotine. Because that's the only obstacle here. The rest of the juice is made from easily sourced and perfectly legal materials, and hardware is perfectly legal as well -- and even if HC decided to crack down on that, it's very easily made from off the shelf parts.
It is still 100% undoubtably legal to buy nicotine that is not in a form suitable for human consumption. Schedule F doesn't even touch "not for human consumption". 100mg juice is forever exempt from Schedule F.
This whole thing makes me sick..
It's ok for people to legally poison themselves with alcohol and use harmful tobacco products ..
But don't dare let them try to quit smoking with ecigs..
I have been setting up to sell ecigs for months and it sucks thinking it may be all for not.
I travel monthly to south america and am setting up shop to sell them down there...
It may be the only place to do business after the FDA has it's way..
It's ok for people to legally poison themselves with alcohol and use harmful tobacco products ..
But don't dare let them try to quit smoking with ecigs..
I have been setting up to sell ecigs for months and it sucks thinking it may be all for not.
I travel monthly to south america and am setting up shop to sell them down there...
It may be the only place to do business after the FDA has it's way..
What do you mean? I'm not 100% on the US legal history of e-cigs, but I thought Sottera v. FDA essentially stiff-armed the FDA into regulating it as a tobacco product. They weren't allowed to have their way when they wanted to call it a drug.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...e-products-eliminate-many-most-companies.html
It's not over yet..
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I think that would just mean the smaller juice makers would be eliminated if they can't afford testing. The small shops that sell kits and juice made by other people aren't in much danger of being shut down, they will just have to pay a vending fee won't they? I'm not sure how it works down there. Feel free to enlighten me if you know.
"The reason I stated that an FDA regulation to apply Chapter IX of the FSPTCA to e-cigarettes could ban many/most e-cigarette products (that contain nicotine) is because Section 910 of the FSPTCA could allow the FDA to ban some/many/most/all e-cigarette products that were not available in the US market before February 15, 2007.
Under the provisions of Section 910, manufacturers/importers (of all tobacco products that weren't on the market prior to February 15, 2007) would need to submit an application to the FDA claiming that the product is "substantially equivalent" to another product that was already on the market prior to 2/15/2007, and the FDA would have sole discretion of determining whether the product is or isn't substantially equivalent to the other e-cigarette product.
Also, Section 911 would prohibit all e-cigarette manufacturers and importers from truthfully claiming that e-cigarettes are less hazardous than cigarettes, as such a claim would render the product as a "modified risk tobacco product". Section 911 requires any company desiring to make a MRTP claim to apply to the FDA to do so, and the FDA must approve the application."
Many other provisions in Chapter IX would basically require every e-cigarette manufacturer and importer to hire a team of lawyers just to comply with the currently pending provisions (as well as comply with regulations approved in the future).
Under the provisions of Section 910, manufacturers/importers (of all tobacco products that weren't on the market prior to February 15, 2007) would need to submit an application to the FDA claiming that the product is "substantially equivalent" to another product that was already on the market prior to 2/15/2007, and the FDA would have sole discretion of determining whether the product is or isn't substantially equivalent to the other e-cigarette product.
Also, Section 911 would prohibit all e-cigarette manufacturers and importers from truthfully claiming that e-cigarettes are less hazardous than cigarettes, as such a claim would render the product as a "modified risk tobacco product". Section 911 requires any company desiring to make a MRTP claim to apply to the FDA to do so, and the FDA must approve the application."
Many other provisions in Chapter IX would basically require every e-cigarette manufacturer and importer to hire a team of lawyers just to comply with the currently pending provisions (as well as comply with regulations approved in the future).
Yeah, cause Harper's done wonders for our liberties up here. Give me a break.
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