I like the VV option, but the real selling point for me is the added stem length.
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Only problem stacking that many adapters and extensions is each costs you some power by the time the electricity reaches your atty. A Churchwarden would give the length without the sacrifice in power...
Alright, just built my first Genesis wick and coil that doesn't have that burnt wick taste. Now if only I could get it to an resistance higher than 1.2ohms. I got it on my 3rd attempt. My first coil was a 6/7 twist, so i was very confused when it read out as 0.9 ohms. That still has me scratching my head. 
Alright, just built my first Genesis wick and coil that doesn't have that burnt wick taste. Now if only I could get it to an resistance higher than 1.2ohms. I got it on my 3rd attempt. My first coil was a 6/7 twist, so i was very confused when it read out as 0.9 ohms. That still has me scratching my head.
What guage was that. Was it stuck right on .9? Ive noticed that when things arent quite right you can get readings like that but if you mess with the coil you can usually get it to where it should be. I use 28 with 3/4 wraps to get .9, but it depends very much how thick the wick is.
The easiest way if you want to know what it should be you can read the ohms of the piece of wire before you coil it with a multimeter. You just cant forget to subtract the baseline resistance of the multimeter. Then after you wrap it you know that if it isnt really close to what it should be then you likely have a short.
EDIT: Ill add this video for you or anyone else that may be interested in how it works. This vid is on the Killer. You can figure it out almost exact when you are doing the NR>R>NR setup but with a gennie you are usually going to have some to clip off the ends which will change things but you should have a pretty good idea where it should be.
Start watching at 9:30 if you dont want to watch the entire Killer review.
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.9ohms with that many wraps makes me think short as well. Do you get the nice "all coils glowing" on the dry burn?
I find it easiest to fiddle with a wood toothpick while firing.
I find it easiest to fiddle with a wood toothpick while firing.
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Ya, going by memory I think on my ZAP with 32g, insulator in, and 5/6 wraps I get between 1.5-1.7. I think, it could have been even more. Wish wish my memory didnt go up in smoke years ago.
I used 32g kanthal, and I didn't get any of the coils to glow as niether my Zmax or Provari will fire with an atomizer reading that low. I did fiddle with it for a bit and it was stuck on .9.
Ya, I dont know what to say
I usually stay out of the genesis build talk. Its just so hard without being there to really help you. You could always try a completely Un-oxidised setup. Ive ran a gennie this way and it works good. It takes more break in time to get the flavor right. I would lightly run a torch over the mesh but just to burn off anything that might be on it. Or like in the video, no torch at all. Just lots of pumping the button until they all light up nice. I dont think this will work on a ProVari. Ive never tried it with one of those but it should work with any mechanical mod. Just pulse quickly.
A couple things to note about recent conversations....
Bending stems- fun, but it can ruin your stem.
A bed of rock salt on a cookie sheet and pop it in the oven (or toaster oven) at 200 for about 5-10 minutes and the stem becomes pliable.
Have a large bowl of ice water ready for a "setting plunge". Also definitely wear gloves.
Things to be warned of is was about-
Stem material (color and density varies) can greatly change the amount of time it takes to soften and bend.
Certain colors will bubble if left too long and ruin your stem!!!!
Also be aware that the tenon- the part that fits in the universal- is a very sensitive and critical part of your stem. Altering the shape or size of the tenon AT ALL can ruin your stem.
I have been reluctant to share the info because of how easy it is to mess up a stem....
As far as creative set ups.
A word of warning-
Adapters are DANGEROUS!!! every adapter you use ads 2 more points of failure to your current draw.
The 510 connection is bad enough without stacking 3-4 of them on top of each other! I don't mean to be harsh, but shorts are much more likely to occure when stacking adapters, Believe me.
Also DO NOT use any setups that go below 1.5ohms.
THIS WARNING IS FOR GENISUS USERS!!!!!!
I will be blunt and just say it.... THIS IS STUPID AND UNNECESSARY!
That is WAY to much current to draw out of a battery. You will kill the VapeSafe, it has a 7amp current draw cap for a reason.
The VapeSafe can handle a hold current of 3.5amps, which is plenty. If you feel you need more power, use some other mod.
I realize that a lot of geni users are going nuts over ultra low res coils.... IMO it is dumb. If you like your face the way it is, DON'T DO IT.
Ultra low res is only fractions away from a hard short. Hard shorts mean exploding batteries.
The VapeSafe will protect you, but there will be a $25 fee for blown VapeSafes from now on.
Bending stems- fun, but it can ruin your stem.
A bed of rock salt on a cookie sheet and pop it in the oven (or toaster oven) at 200 for about 5-10 minutes and the stem becomes pliable.
Have a large bowl of ice water ready for a "setting plunge". Also definitely wear gloves.
Things to be warned of is was about-
Stem material (color and density varies) can greatly change the amount of time it takes to soften and bend.
Certain colors will bubble if left too long and ruin your stem!!!!
Also be aware that the tenon- the part that fits in the universal- is a very sensitive and critical part of your stem. Altering the shape or size of the tenon AT ALL can ruin your stem.
I have been reluctant to share the info because of how easy it is to mess up a stem....
As far as creative set ups.
A word of warning-
Adapters are DANGEROUS!!! every adapter you use ads 2 more points of failure to your current draw.
The 510 connection is bad enough without stacking 3-4 of them on top of each other! I don't mean to be harsh, but shorts are much more likely to occure when stacking adapters, Believe me.
Also DO NOT use any setups that go below 1.5ohms.
THIS WARNING IS FOR GENISUS USERS!!!!!!
I will be blunt and just say it.... THIS IS STUPID AND UNNECESSARY!
That is WAY to much current to draw out of a battery. You will kill the VapeSafe, it has a 7amp current draw cap for a reason.
The VapeSafe can handle a hold current of 3.5amps, which is plenty. If you feel you need more power, use some other mod.
I realize that a lot of geni users are going nuts over ultra low res coils.... IMO it is dumb. If you like your face the way it is, DON'T DO IT.
Ultra low res is only fractions away from a hard short. Hard shorts mean exploding batteries.
The VapeSafe will protect you, but there will be a $25 fee for blown VapeSafes from now on.
All very important points and fully supported by me. Thank you for taking the time to write this Matt!!
you definitely have a short. With that many wraps you should be reading between 2 and 2.4 ohms depending on the size of the wick.
Great points from Matt...I try to keep my gennies around 1.5 at the lowest. I know of the rock salt method of stem bending and how easy it is to screw up a tenon which is why I prefer the hot water method, the tenon does not get hot enough to get misshapen. Also why I stressed being very gentle...they will snap if not hot enough.
Thank you Matt I was unaware of the dangers with running resistances that low. It was not my intention to make an ultra low res coil, so i guess I need to do more fiddling with it. I finally got it to 1.3ohms, but I'm obviously gonna have make a new coil. Thanks again for the words of wisdom.
I didn't think that was your intention, but a lot of people are going that low with genies. Also it's fairly common to get ultra low resistance while rebuilding genies, they can ground on the wick fairly easy.
I would recommend building and using the genie on another device like a provari or other digital readout/ protected mod, until you get it set up correctly. Then it would be safe to use on the pipe without doing damage to the VapeSafe....
I decided I had enough use for it so I went and bought one of these. I was lazy about getting my multimeter out so I decided to make it more convenient. I've been plenty happy with it. Better than ProVari which you have to fire to test. You just screw it onto here and if its bouncing around or saying something crazy you know not to put it on a mechanical mod.
When I have issues like this I check a few things....
1) make sure the wick isnt touching the bottom of the tank.... or the sides of the grounding post
2) check for frays on the edges of your wick. Usually you want to fold over the outside edge of the mesh before you roll it to prevent extra frays... or you could just torch the chit out of it
3) you also want to make sure your coil isnt wrapped too tightly around the wick..... this will also give it shorts.
Some time if its taking me too long ill just toss the kanthal from that coil away and start from scratch. The stuff is so cheap and it will usually work my next try.
These are just as useful as the 510 volt meters.
Definitely a must have for RBA and genie users
Guess I know what my next purchase is gonna be. And I'm not putting it on a pipe until I know what I'm doing with these genies. Seeing as all I have for a fail safe is the hot spring, it's prudent not to use it on my pipe.
Hey, everyone.
Been reading for a while, and I just bought myself an EpipeMod pipe last week and I have a couple of questions. First, I am planning on getting an RBA. I've heard that the Phoenix is a great one to start with, but it looks more difficult to rebuild than a DID or an AGA T, any opinions on that? I understand that it's a more advanced approach to smoking, but since the E pipes lack all the fancy buttons and doo-dads, I want to be able to dial in my wattage manually. I'm going to pick up one of those 510 ohm meters and do it safely and I'll keep it above 1.6 ohms so I don't blow my face off.
My second question regards stems. I really want a pipe stem for my pipe... right now I have a Vivi nova with stock drip tip and that's it. It's not a very comfortable smoke and it looks like a covert weed pipe, rather than a majestic wooden work of art. EPipeMods is currently out of pretty much everything. Does anyone here have a good supplier of pipe stems and a solid, fairly uncomplicated method for converting them to fit a 510? I'm hell bent on vaping like a sir, and this drip tip nonsense is cramping my style. heh
Thanks in advance, I've been lurking for a while and this is a really cool little community you cats have going on here!
--moJoe
Been reading for a while, and I just bought myself an EpipeMod pipe last week and I have a couple of questions. First, I am planning on getting an RBA. I've heard that the Phoenix is a great one to start with, but it looks more difficult to rebuild than a DID or an AGA T, any opinions on that? I understand that it's a more advanced approach to smoking, but since the E pipes lack all the fancy buttons and doo-dads, I want to be able to dial in my wattage manually. I'm going to pick up one of those 510 ohm meters and do it safely and I'll keep it above 1.6 ohms so I don't blow my face off.
My second question regards stems. I really want a pipe stem for my pipe... right now I have a Vivi nova with stock drip tip and that's it. It's not a very comfortable smoke and it looks like a covert weed pipe, rather than a majestic wooden work of art. EPipeMods is currently out of pretty much everything. Does anyone here have a good supplier of pipe stems and a solid, fairly uncomplicated method for converting them to fit a 510? I'm hell bent on vaping like a sir, and this drip tip nonsense is cramping my style. heh
Thanks in advance, I've been lurking for a while and this is a really cool little community you cats have going on here!
--moJoe
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