Not trying to drag up drama again but we were contacted by the modder (we will not mention) responsible for the removal of the VapeSafes in our pipes. In order to be transparent in our dealings with him and our customers on this issue, I have decided that it would be wise to make our response to him public.
here goes-
People used to say that lifp04 3.0 batteries were safe- they were wrong and bad things happened.
People used to say stacked battery mods were safe- they were wrong and bad things happened
People used to say that lion protected cells were safe- they were wrong and bad things happened
People used to say that Limn high drain batteries were safe- they were wrong and bad things happened.
People used to say that Lipoly cell packs were safe- they were wrong and bad things happened.
All that said-
Companies like mine, and in direct reference to sub ohm coils, House of Hybrids (Zen), understand and recognize the dangers in the products we sell. Beyond that, both of our companies install safety devices that help to prevent bad things from happening. We also go to great lengths to educate the often uneducated or misinformed consumer as to what is "safe". There are way too many newbs out there that are not educated enough to avoid very dangerous situations.
I have done extensive testing and research on multiple battery types, as well as the mechanical and electrical design specs of each and every design we produce. By doing so I have determined the "safe operating parameters" for our devices. Tampering with our devices in order to use them outside the safe operating parameters is not advisable and must be publicly announced as dangerous.
Sub ohm coils are dangerous and unnecessary. With each drop of a fraction of an ohm you are drastically increasing the amps. Most batteries are not capable of safely handling these current levels. Unless you are certain of the manufacturer, the true C rating of your batteries, and the current draw of your coil, you risk drawing too much current. The result of drawing too much current from a cell is thermal runaway, venting, and possible explosion. Resistance below 1 ohm is essentially a short circuit, which is the primary cause of thermal runaway. These sub ohm coils should not be used on our pipes, especially considering the switch design (see below). But again many people are uneducated on mechanical and electronic safety in mods.
If you did not read my ECF post about pipe switch designs and the mechanical nature of pipe switch's here it is-
I would like to address the removal of the vapesafe issue one more time in more graphic and vivid detail.
This Message will hopefully be read by MFS, you know who you are.
Aside from Chinese Pipes and possibly the Jazz, all the current pipe switch designs out there either use magnetic resistance or a hot spring (at least I hope MFS uses hot springs). Most mechanical tube mods have an "open default position", meaning if the mod is shorted the natural state of the switch is an open circuit, no power is going through unless the user depress's the switch. The problem with mechanical pipes is that once a short has occurred the switch collapses. Either due to the hot spring collapsing or magnetic discharge due to over heating the magnets. This leaves your pipe in a closed circuit state. Meaning that the mod is continuously firing. Having a short circuit situation with a switch in a constant "on" state is the worst possible scenario. It WILL lead to venting and explosion.
This is an inherent flaw in pipe switch designs. This is also why a VapeSafe MUST be used.
The danger is clear, the liability is clear, do what you will.
I hope you can see that our pipes are not a suitable mechanical design to use at the already risky sub ohm level.
As a vendor you should realize that by encouraging people to use unsafe and unprotected devices, you are not only acting irresponsibly and putting your customers in harms way, you are freely inviting a serious lawsuit. It would be in your best interest to stop these practices. Please understand, i hold no ill will towards you, I am just offering a friendly bit of ... covering business advice.
It is NOT my business to tell you how to run your business. However, if you continue to remove the safety devices from our pipes, it puts our company in a position to warn our customers against doing it. We also must state that by removing the VapeSafe it will void the warranty. In addition we are not responsible for damages that may occur. It is not personal, it is just what our company needs to do to cover our ... and feel that we have done the responsible thing.
This message will be publicly posted on our ECF and FaceBook threads in order to further educate our customers on this topic. Your name and company will not be mentioned.
