Eroll Battery cleaning

[bombastinator]

To be fair, the auto switch didn't have an issue until I blew through the other side of the battery. And, like Eric said, the problem seems to have vanished by today. I really think it was a gummed atty issue, not the battery as I first suspected. We'll see. Good luck - I really think you'll like the unit. Due to its portable nature, it's pretty easy to forgive some of its shortcomings.

well if you do think you have a gummed up atty it's easy to check. just pull the cap off and look. ego cs have a rep for gumming up quickly, but they're easy to clean. there are many how tos. tbe flavor wick (the bit in the tube) does need to be replaced occasionally, but that is also easy. it's only thee coil itself that is a real ......

 

[peraspera]

Also, I can't believe I gummed an atty in two days. I won't mention the brands of juice I was using because I don't want to implicate anybody.

It's perfectly fine to mention any juices that you find clog atties quickly. That way people who try that juice will know to clean their attys more frequently.

The fact that a juice wreaks havoc on attys is not any sort of reflection on the quality of the juice. I think most, if not all, NET tobaccos have solids in them that gunk up attys. Bobo's Bounty is extremely popular and isn't at all kind to attys. High VG juice isn't as atty friendly as high PG juice.

 

[bombastinator]

It's perfectly fine to mention any juices that you find clog atties quickly. That way people who try that juice will know to clean their attys more frequently.

The fact that a juice wreaks havoc on attys is not any sort of reflection on the quality of the juice. I think most, if not all, NET tobaccos have solids in them that gunk up attys. Bobo's Bounty is extremely popular and isn't at all kind to attys. High VG juice isn't as atty friendly as high PG juice.

I disagree that inordinately crudding juices are innocuous. The thing is right now juice is effectively patent medicine. Folks can put literally anything in it.

The basis of the safety of juice is that if you only use pg, vg, extremely high purity nicotine, and commercial food flavorings you have something that has ingredients that have already been tested as safe.
NONE of these things should have any particulate. That there is states that there is somthing in the which has not been tested. Just because it tastes good, and is therefore popular does not mean it is safe. The flavor of wine can be greatly improved by adding anti-freeze (the old toxic kind) for example. There was a scandal in germany in the 80's with people doing just that.

Lacking any information on what is in juice, I avoid juices that mess up my atties. It's a lousy safety precaution, since someone could simply add, say automotive injector cleaner to prevent It and I would never know, but it's all I got.

 

[peraspera]

I don't think we ought to imply that juices that are atty friendly are particularly any safer than juices that aren't. There simply is not the science to know one way or another.

 

[bombastinator]

I don't think we ought to imply that juices that are atty friendly are particularly any safer than juices that aren't. There simply is not the science to know one way or another.

Not exactly. There is not the information to know one way or the other. Science we got, at least for individual compnents. If the contents of a juice were known, one could get a pretty good idea how dangerous it might be.

Would even that be really accurate? No. The only way to be really sure is to throw down the welcome mat for the FDA and hand our asses over to big pharma, which would also mean the end of ecigs for most of us, as they would likely then become horribly expensive propietary crap affordable only with insurance, and not worth smoking even then.

I don't mistrust the FDA itself, but I do mistrust their ability to defend themselves from the kind of money the various interests bring to bear. The patch makers want ecigs gone, the tobacco lobby wants ecigs gone, the antz want ecigs gone, and every predatory capitalist in the world wants to own a controlled market.

 

[EricDykstra]

I disagree that inordinately crudding juices are innocuous. The thing is right now juice is effectively patent medicine. Folks can put literally anything in it.

The basis of the safety of juice is that if you only use pg, vg, extremely high purity nicotine, and commercial food flavorings you have something that has ingredients that have already been tested as safe.
NONE of these things should have any particulate. That there is states that there is somthing in the which has not been tested. Just because it tastes good, and is therefore popular does not mean it is safe. The flavor of wine can be greatly improved by adding anti-freeze (the old toxic kind) for example. There was a scandal in germany in the 80's with people doing just that.

Lacking any information on what is in juice, I avoid juices that mess up my atties. It's a lousy safety precaution, since someone could simply add, say automotive injector cleaner to prevent It and I would never know, but it's all I got.

Sorry, I have to stop that rumor that anti freeze was added to the wine in Germany. That was not true. It was Austrian wine in question. It was not anti freeze but diethylene glycol, which is an ingredient in anti freeze. It was limited something like 4 producers. No one was actually harmed. The producers were arrested and I am not even sure any of the wine made it to consumers.

 

[bombastinator]

I happened to be in germany at the time, and the folks I talked to were under the impression that it was happenng there. That is not to say you are incorrect though.

As for the ingredient thing, while it is not the only thing in old fashioned anti-freeze, it is the primary ingredient. Much as flour is the primary ingredient in bread. It is also the stuff that makes it poisonous in the first place, so I feel my statement was sufficiently accurate.

Yes the number was small, yes they got caught, but that's because people were looking, and there were laws about what you could put in wine. If someone were to do that here with juice there is no mechanism for anyone to find out or even get them to stop, let alone prosecute them.

Lacking a governing body who's ability to simultaneously protect the populous and not sell us down the river we are left with classic lazze faire capitalism. Laazze faire (at least when spelled correctly, the speller on this phone it useless) means "buyer beware" so that's what I'm doing. It's a crappy way to run things from the perspective of anyone who isn't a paranoid sociopath, but for the moment it's what we got, so I am employing it thankyoverymuch.

 

[chefkeith]

It's perfectly fine to mention any juices that you find clog atties quickly. That way people who try that juice will know to clean their attys more frequently.

The fact that a juice wreaks havoc on attys is not any sort of reflection on the quality of the juice. I think most, if not all, NET tobaccos have solids in them that gunk up attys. Bobo's Bounty is extremely popular and isn't at all kind to attys. High VG juice isn't as atty friendly as high PG juice.

I should have phrased it better: I'm unsure which juice may have clogged my atty, therefore I'm hesitant to name names (I've been trying a bunch of new juices since receiving my eRoll).

 

[EricDykstra]

I happened to be in germany at the time, and the folks I talked to were under the impression that it was happenng there. That is not to say you are incorrect though.

As for the ingredient thing, while it is not the only thing in old fashioned anti-freeze, it is the primary ingredient. Much as flour is the primary ingredient in bread. It is also the stuff that makes it poisonous in the first place, so I feel my statement was sufficiently accurate.

Yes the number was small, yes they got caught, but that's because people were looking, and there were laws about what you could put in wine. If someone were to do that here with juice there is no mechanism for anyone to find out or even get them to stop, let alone prosecute them.

Lacking a governing body who's ability to simultaneously protect the populous and not sell us down the river we are left with classic lazze faire capitalism. Laazze faire (at least when spelled correctly, the speller on this phone it useless) means "buyer beware" so that's what I'm doing. It's a crappy way to run things from the perspective of anyone who isn't a paranoid sociopath, but for the moment it's what we got, so I am employing it thankyoverymuch.

My only point was make sure you were not wrongly accusing an entire nation for 4 peoples crime.

 

[Bookworm]

After two alcohol soaks and several days of drying, my first battery is working again. It's not hitting as well as the others, but it is at least usable, and much better than it was before cleaning.

 

[chefkeith]

My battery is again working correctly after the alcohol soak, but I'm not sure that fixed my problem. After cleaning the atty and battery, I'm still having random bouts of hard draw. I'm thinking perhaps it's an airlock issue, so I started a thread about it. I really can't isolate the problem - it's frustrating!

 

[bombastinator]

My only point was make sure you were not wrongly accusing an entire nation for 4 peoples crime.

ah. well i propose this whole thing be chalked up as an example of epic miscommunication then. I m curious how yoy got to me accusi g an entire nation, from a crime committed in one but then we would have to examine my belief that you were defending the use whatever one happens to find under the sink in premixed juice. i propose we leave the whole thing under the couch until it is swept away by a blind questing vacuum or the cat eats it.

 

[bombastinator]

My battery is again working correctly after the alcohol soak, but I'm not sure that fixed my problem. After cleaning the atty and battery, I'm still having random bouts of hard draw. I'm thinking perhaps it's an airlock issue, so I started a thread about it. I really can't isolate the problem - it's frustrating!

well good luck for you bad luck for me then. I must continue my search for eroll corpses elsewhere. that or pony up eigbt bucks. one thought is that alcohol is a powerful solvent but doesn't clean anything by itself. perhaps you just smothed out the obstruction rather than removing it.

 

[sunsean]

Sorry to revive a semi old thread...but I have just been struggling with these issues with my eroll. Both batteries that came with the eroll have started doing the auto-drag for 10-12 seconds or whatever, which ruins the whole vaping experience for me...starts tasting metallic and getting super hot. I'm not sure what causes it, it seems to come and go. Well, a couple days ago, battery #1 completely died. It is fully charged I believe, but will not vape at all - no blue light, no vape, nothing...found this thread and am going to try the cleaning described in OP. I've cleaned the atomizers, which made a big difference in vape quality, hoping for similar results for the battery...I've been very frustrated the last couple of days because BOTH batteries have been going haywire, and it's not a cheap kit, so I'd hate to have to start replacing parts after owning for only 2 months.

 

[Bookworm]

Sorry to revive a semi old thread...but I have just been struggling with these issues with my eroll. Both batteries that came with the eroll have started doing the auto-drag for 10-12 seconds or whatever, which ruins the whole vaping experience for me...starts tasting metallic and getting super hot. I'm not sure what causes it, it seems to come and go. Well, a couple days ago, battery #1 completely died. It is fully charged I believe, but will not vape at all - no blue light, no vape, nothing...found this thread and am going to try the cleaning described in OP. I've cleaned the atomizers, which made a big difference in vape quality, hoping for similar results for the battery...I've been very frustrated the last couple of days because BOTH batteries have been going haywire, and it's not a cheap kit, so I'd hate to have to start replacing parts after owning for only 2 months.

No worries about reviving old threads, that's what they are here for. Definitely try the cleaning method above. Also check if the air hole on the side is clogged. I was having issues with a battery last night and realized the little hole had gotten clogged with juice or maybe dirt or something from just tossing it my bag. Either way, I just stuck a straight pin in the hole an wiggled it around and it's performing like a new battery. Go ahead and buy a couple batteries though. They are cheap to replace (the last one I bought was $6 at good prophets). You will always need back ups.

 

[sunsean]

No worries about reviving old threads, that's what they are here for. Definitely try the cleaning method above. Also check if the air hole on the side is clogged. I was having issues with a battery last night and realized the little hole had gotten clogged with juice or maybe dirt or something from just tossing it my bag. Either way, I just stuck a straight pin in the hole an wiggled it around and it's performing like a new battery. Go ahead and buy a couple batteries though. They are cheap to replace (the last one I bought was $6 at good prophets). You will always need back ups.

Thanks for the feedback! Will definitely try unclogging the airhole, hopefully that will do the trick. And I am planning on buying another battery or two in a different color (have black right now) - I was just disheartened that they would need to be continuously replaced every couple months...which like you said, they're not much, so not a big deal...but that makes this feel more disposable and less of a permanent kit, since between the batteries and atomizers it feels like one needs to buy new parts on a regular basis to keep it working well...lol no biggie, just griping

 

[bombastinator]

Thanks for the feedback! Will definitely try unclogging the airhole, hopefully that will do the trick. And I am planning on buying another battery or two in a different color (have black right now) - I was just disheartened that they would need to be continuously replaced every couple months...which like you said, they're not much, so not a big deal...but that makes this feel more disposable and less of a permanent kit, since between the batteries and atomizers it feels like one needs to buy new parts on a regular basis to keep it working well...lol no biggie, just griping

lack of reliability is the traditional gremlin of all automatics, specifically the inability to properly protect the vacuum switch. The things are delicate, cantankerous, and cannot really withstand juice at all. It's why most people use buttons. My hop was that they did a better job with this thing. I would dearly love to cut one up if no one has yet just to see exactly how they are put together. Part of the issue is the exact layout of these things are still a mystery.

 

[orion7319]

I had one acting up so I ran it under the sink in hot water making sure I got water to flush though the battery end and the charging end. I then blew it out and then completely submerged it in alcohol for about an hour. I shook and blew the alcohol out, and 4 days later it was working fine again. I used the hot water to try and flush the gunk out, and the alcohol to displace the water. I don't know how these auto switches work, but they don't seem to work with even a bit of moisture in them. Once they completely dry out they seem fine though, surprisingly.

 

[sunsean]

I will have to try your method of reviving the device, because 1 of my 2 batteries that came with the kit is just completely 100% kapoot. No blue light, no vapor, no nothing :-/

 

[Faylool]

True stuff, and I'm chronically getting stuff from co ops and CoreVape guy is/was selling kits $.00-ish with $5.00-ish shipping and includes extra second cone. There is a co op for e Roll supplies active now and kits too. When I think of the cost of a carton of cigs it doesn't bother me a bit

Thanks for the feedback! Will definitely try unclogging the airhole, hopefully that will do the trick. And I am planning on buying another battery or two in a different color (have black right now) - I was just disheartened that they would need to be continuously replaced every couple months...which like you said, they're not much, so not a big deal...but that makes this feel more disposable and less of a permanent kit, since between the batteries and atomizers it feels like one needs to buy new parts on a regular basis to keep it working well...lol no biggie, just griping