Everyone Loves Their 510 But Me. Are 510 Atomizers Dependent On Supplier?

[IAMREALITY]

Hi again all and Happy New Year,

I'm doing my best to keep with vaping and know I will (I smoke maybe only ONE analog every other day or so generally) but it's been so frustrating. I've spent probably 700 bucks or more already on trying out different things and still can't get consistency.

I've decided that the 510 is probably still the model to focus on, but I just have no luck with these atomizers! I have bad luck in general, and if something in an order can go wrong for me it WILL, but I just can't believe that an average ratio of 1 in 5 actually performing well is normal.

So please, if there is a known supplier that consistently ships strong and working 510 atty's please let me know. I keep blowing out a new 510 atty, loading it, trying it, and just hollow vapor. I have one that finally performed the way you all make it seem like 510's should, but it has gotten weaker. If I could just have a place to order from that I knew shipped good strong atty's, and that 4 out of 5 would hit as well as this one had, then I know my frustrations with the 510 and vaping in general would ease. But is that possible? Am I doomed to get 80% of my atty's having the threads all out of place or producing 10% of the vapor they should? Are they all made by the same supplier at the end of the day?

Sorry for my always long posts, but it's important to me and I appreciate the help. On a side note, I decided I'm not going to divulge where I've gotten some atty's from in the past, since I don't want to call out any suppliers/members here etc. But any input on the suppliers who have consistently given you strong 510 atty's would be greatly appreciated!

 

[Scottbee]

A Joye 510 atty is a Joye 510 atty is a Joye 510 atty. So the only real question is.. do your suppliers carry genuine Joye hardware?

P.S. You mentioned "the threads all out of place"....... Huh? Are you talking about the wick under the bridge of the atty? Are you messing with that wick in any way? If so, you are probably killing perfectly good attys.

 

[martha1014]

I order all of mine from Totally Wicked, USA. I have ordered over 30 Joye 510 atomizers and have used close to 20 of these. I have only had 2 that quit working. I did order some off brand 510s for another company and most of them died. Usually if you have enough eliquid in the atomizer it will produce good. But I know what you are talking about not getting
consistent amount of vapor and TH. If you have too much or too little eliquid it will cause the atomizer not to function. There is a learning curve.

I feel you will eventually get your atomiers to produce properly.

 

[devonschmoker]

Unfortunately, the atomizers for the 510 are just hit or miss. Suppliers make little difference. The problem resides with joyetec in china. Their quality control needs some work.

 

[skywalk]

I am very interested in following-up on this post. if a 510 atty is a 510 atty, then are you saying that this is user error? if so, what can we do to minimize user error?

 

[skywalk]

ok I just read the post by devonschmoker....so is this inconsistency with 510 attys more a "quality control" failure from our chinese suppliers?

 

[Scottbee]

I am very interested in following-up on this post. if a 510 atty is a 510 atty, then are you saying that this is user error? if so, what can we do to minimize user error?

I didn't way a 510 atty is a 510 atty. I said that a JOYE 510 atty is a JOYE 510 atty. There are some knock-offs out there now.

But that being said.. most of the time it does end up being "user error". It takes a little while to come up on the learning curve. Not screwing with the wick.. learning the difference between flood and starve... finding a decent e-liquid... etc..

 

[sherid]

Hi again all and Happy New Year,

I'm doing my best to keep with vaping and know I will (I smoke maybe only ONE analog every other day or so generally) but it's been so frustrating. I've spent probably 700 bucks or more already on trying out different things and still can't get consistency.

I've decided that the 510 is probably still the model to focus on, but I just have no luck with these atomizers! I have bad luck in general, and if something in an order can go wrong for me it WILL, but I just can't believe that an average ratio of 1 in 5 actually performing well is normal.

So please, if there is a known supplier that consistently ships strong and working 510 atty's please let me know. I keep blowing out a new 510 atty, loading it, trying it, and just hollow vapor. I have one that finally performed the way you all make it seem like 510's should, but it has gotten weaker. If I could just have a place to order from that I knew shipped good strong atty's, and that 4 out of 5 would hit as well as this one had, then I know my frustrations with the 510 and vaping in general would ease. But is that possible? Am I doomed to get 80% of my atty's having the threads all out of place or producing 10% of the vapor they should? Are they all made by the same supplier at the end of the day?

Sorry for my always long posts, but it's important to me and I appreciate the help. On a side note, I decided I'm not going to divulge where I've gotten some atty's from in the past, since I don't want to call out any suppliers/members here etc. But any input on the suppliers who have consistently given you strong 510 atty's would be greatly appreciated!

Janty USA - USA SHOP || Shipping in USA

 

[Darmeen]

I have been vaping for two months with no analogs and I have bought all my atomizers from cignot.com.

The only problem I have had with an atomizer is part of the metal mesh fell out so it doesn't work well with a cart, but still works just fine for dripping.

Cignot uses only authentic Joye hardware.

 

[Bogalu]

Try Rocky Mountain Vapor. Out of 4 attys I only had 1 that was bad off the bat and I'm still using the second atty, its been about a week too. Basically the learning curve for "Genuine" Joye attys is, if it gurgles, it needs blown out(NOT CLEANED) but just blown out. I usually take a good 20 min and blow out all the old juice out the bottom of the atty into a napkin a few times until I cant even get a single drop to come out. So the point is, a sizzle is good, a gurgle is bad. You CAN hear the difference. Also I burnt through attys 1 every few days at 6v so its not worth it to me. Just my opinion.

 

[Scottbee]

ok I just read the post by devonschmoker....so is this inconsistency with 510 attys more a "quality control" failure from our chinese suppliers?

I've always grumbled about the 510 atty quality control... but it's not as bad as it is being represented here. If you tell me that 1 out of 5 attys are bad.... I might just believe you (but even that comes across as being high IMHO). 4 out of 5..... probably not.

 

[IAMREALITY]

A Joye 510 atty is a Joye 510 atty is a Joye 510 atty. So the only real question is.. do your suppliers carry genuine Joye hardware?

P.S. You mentioned "the threads all out of place"....... Huh? Are you talking about the wick under the bridge of the atty? Are you messing with that wick in any way? If so, you are probably killing perfectly good attys.

Yes, I'm talking about the wick under the bridge. And no, I don't mess with it. 3 of my 5 had the threads going out to the sides in a cockeyed manner so that their effectiveness would be lost etc.

And yeah, based on the identification pictures I've seen here in the past I believe they are Joye. I just seem to have no luck with them. I know they can be better, because I've had one or two that produced tons of vapor and throat hit. The rest have sucked though.

 

[Scottbee]

Yes, I'm talking about the wick under the bridge. And no, I don't mess with it. 3 of my 5 had the threads going out to the sides in a cockeyed manner so that their effectiveness would be lost etc.

The wick "loop" almost always comes out of the side of the bridge in a cockeyed manner. As long as it goes down to the coil pot... you're fine.

 

[skywalk]

I was lazy to type "joye 510 atty" three times but that was indeed what I meant.
joye 510 atty is joye 510 atty is joye 510 atty (god bless cut and paste)

now that THAT is out of the way, this is what i'm learning from the thread.

1) 510 attys (or joye 510 attys) have different performance levels, based on the quality checks (or lack of) in China, so this means 10 attys can perform at 10 different levels.

2) user error ADDS to this problem and makes already poorly-performing attys (joye 510 attys) seem worse than they should be.

so in a nutshell, we need to learn how to minimize user error so that we reduce the permutations that contribute to a poor vaping experience. Did I interpret all the prior posts correctly? thanks

 

[skywalk]

Try Rocky Mountain Vapor. Out of 4 attys I only had 1 that was bad off the bat and I'm still using the second atty, its been about a week too. Basically the learning curve for "Genuine" Joye attys is, if it gurgles, it needs blown out(NOT CLEANED) but just blown out. I usually take a good 20 min and blow out all the old juice out the bottom of the atty into a napkin a few times until I cant even get a single drop to come out. So the point is, a sizzle is good, a gurgle is bad. You CAN hear the difference. Also I burnt through attys 1 every few days at 6v so its not worth it to me. Just my opinion.

1 burnt atty every few days is a worrying statistic!!
I have an xhaler (6v but i'll run it at 5v) on order and if I end up going through an atty or two per week, i'd be in big big trouble.

is burning attys at 6v every few days a COMMON occurance amongst the more experienced members?

 

[IAMREALITY]

Janty USA - USA SHOP || Shipping in USA

What's the difference between the Janty Dura atomizer and the Janty Dura TAWA atomizer? Why is the former almost twice the price of a normal 510 atomizer?

 

[Scottbee]

I was lazy to type "joye 510 atty" three times but that was indeed what I meant.
joye 510 atty is joye 510 atty is joye 510 atty (god bless cut and paste)

now that THAT is out of the way, this is what i'm learning from the thread.

1) 510 attys (or joye 510 attys) have different performance levels, based on the quality checks (or lack of) in China, so this means 10 attys can perform at 10 different levels.

2) user error ADDS to this problem and makes already poorly-performing attys (joye 510 attys) seem worse than they should be.

so in a nutshell, we need to learn how to minimize user error so that we reduce the permutations that contribute to a poor vaping experience. Did I interpret all the prior posts correctly? thanks

Well.. I guess. Yes, no two 510 attys are identical.. and therefore one could say that they will perform at different levels. No two Ferrari Testarossas are identical either.. doesn't mean that they perform poorly... ;-)

I used to blame a lot of performance issues on my attys and Joye QC. But I have discovered that most of the attys that I had previously labeled as "bad" perform quite well actually.

 

[natura]

A Joye 510 atty is a Joye 510 atty is a Joye 510 atty. So the only real question is.. do your suppliers carry genuine Joye hardware?

P.S. You mentioned "the threads all out of place"....... Huh? Are you talking about the wick under the bridge of the atty? Are you messing with that wick in any way? If so, you are probably killing perfectly good attys.

I tried one of the other's NEVER again w/ exception of Mad Vapes Disposable in a sealed cig pack for emergency (Just isn't seal with break this glass in case of emergency sign lol)

BTW Right now-YOU can get two Joye 510 15.99 delivered!
Watch Electronic Ash (USA forum suppier) for his special on them too -sometimes about 5.00!

OH AND verify this coupon code for 5% off "ecigforum" then it would be cheaper then what I listed above

 

[IAMREALITY]

The wick "loop" almost always comes out of the side of the bridge in a cockeyed manner. As long as it goes down to the coil pot... you're fine.

Scott,

My point was that it didn't appear to be going down the the coil, but instead almost straight out to the sides.

I'm going to order more and try my best to get them working. I'm sure the whole learning curve/user error aspect is part of this, but I'm at wits end trying to figure out what I need to be doing better. I also was able to get the one working fine consistently so I can't be all that bad at it; and the performance difference between one atomizer to another while keeping my actions consistent is quite apparent.

I'm going to order some HV ones for my new xhaler to try. I'm hoping I get consistency out of them.

 

[skywalk]

Thanks scottbee.

would you care to share how you got your "poorly performing" attys to improve? I reckon experience counts in troubleshooting. (like gurgling vs sizzling noise in diagnosing floods vs dry)