Everyone Loves Their 510 But Me. Are 510 Atomizers Dependent On Supplier?
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So am I! I'm gonna keep at it till I'm a pro like Scott. I'm just so darn impatient and so damn addicted!
Stand back everyone, Scott's got this covered!
I quite like the SLB 510, it's not really like a Joye 510, it's more like a 901 really, just in 510 clothes.
I quite like the SLB 510, it's not really like a Joye 510, it's more like a 901 really, just in 510 clothes.
actually the one that i used up i have taken apart , pulled the mesh out . and used a tubing cutter for cutting copper pipe to inspect and learn . I am not saying i am an expert on any of this , i just know what works for me . so the answer is yes i have taken one apart .
Janty carries a warranty on their atomizers, but the TAWA is not covered. Trust me. It is worth it.
Dunno about short life of Joye atties BOTH my are going strong over a month.
I don't clean them. I do a 5 to 10 sec blow max on bat end occassionally. Also, try to always use juice without coloring. If I am using a heavy thicker juice say like vanilla butternut..I always try to follow up with cleaner type such as Marlboro.
I followed Scottbee's advice since first receiving mine with the exception of this recent post. I heard never air compression and never blow longer then 25 seconds from Joye. Scottbee is responsible for me buying a humidor. Should get it any day for storing my atties that are not in use. *I should mention he didnt state to get one LOL just said something like..ever notice attys are shot after not using awhile ..or something to that effect.* TY Scottbee for all your great posts.
If the retailer doesn't make it crystal clear that it's a Joye on it's selling page for the cart..odds are it's probably not a true Joye 510. Especially on e-cig forums- They know many of us here want the Joye and nothing else for 510 attys.
I don't clean them. I do a 5 to 10 sec blow max on bat end occassionally. Also, try to always use juice without coloring. If I am using a heavy thicker juice say like vanilla butternut..I always try to follow up with cleaner type such as Marlboro.
I followed Scottbee's advice since first receiving mine with the exception of this recent post. I heard never air compression and never blow longer then 25 seconds from Joye. Scottbee is responsible for me buying a humidor. Should get it any day for storing my atties that are not in use. *I should mention he didnt state to get one LOL just said something like..ever notice attys are shot after not using awhile ..or something to that effect.* TY Scottbee for all your great posts.
If the retailer doesn't make it crystal clear that it's a Joye on it's selling page for the cart..odds are it's probably not a true Joye 510. Especially on e-cig forums- They know many of us here want the Joye and nothing else for 510 attys.
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OK... then I apologize.
I've taken quite a few apart.. as have others on the forum. Every single one of them has had burnt filler.. usually both the outer fiberfill and the inner coil wrap. Sometimes just the wrap. The only way that I have found to avoid this is to refill long before it comes anywhere close to becoming dry.
(On a side not, I see that V4L has just announced VG cartomizer availability.... I'll be really curious to see how well those are received!)
Never meant to imply that the SLB clones were "crap". I've gotten them from Rob at Vaporkings and from StrictlyEJuice under the "L2" banner. As you've noted.. they're much like 901 attys. Similar internal construction and coil resistance in the 901 range. Makes them run cooler.. little more flavor.. perhaps they'll even last longer. My wife likes them just fine..... They're just not a Joye 510.
Well you certainly don't want to stick the end of your air compressor gun directly into the cartridge end and hit it with 100psi! Actually.... I've kinda done something like that from the battery end. The results were.... um... well.... less than desired!
I've got my little compressor set at about 25psi and I hold the gun about 5 inches from both ends and just blow a bit. You can actually see the water coming out of the atty... and when that stops.. I'm basically done. There will still be a bit of moisture in the wick and in the core of the coil.. but that turns to steam pretty quickly once you start using it again.
Something must have happened recently. Seems like OP was doing better earlier:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...blue-foam-blue-foam-blue-foam.html#post855240
"Just finally gave this a try, and so far I'm lovin it! It's staying wet and I've had no problems. Been vapin it pretty good for over an hour now, so I'd say this is a winner in my book."
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...blue-foam-blue-foam-blue-foam.html#post855240
"I've tried every mod and finally bought the blue foam last week. It's a total winner! I had tried several versions of it till I found a post from a member here saying that all you need to do is cut a piece 3/8" by 1/2", fold it in half and then cut the v notch. It rests right on the ledges of the 510 carts and works perfectly! No leaking at all and though I take the piece out to fill and then just squeeze it back in, it's the best mod I've used yet!"
Then:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/atomizer-mods/48436-new-atomizer-coil-shape-6.html#post889604
"Ok, let me get this straight...
I post a thread on using silica wood stove rope as wicking material in a cartridge, and I get blasted by a bunch of members and have my thread moved to some 'highly unrecommended ideas' forum or something; yet this thread which uses the exact same rope in the coil ITSELF is a sticky and praised by the same members? What the??? LOL "
Perhaps all the drama isn't about the 510 atomizers....
I've lost 1 Joye 510 atty in going on 7 months - and like sherid, using dozens of them. The idea posed that they lose power in 48 hours (another thread) is total bunk, except I'll allow for people's subjective experience - who knows what people do to these things? lol. Or... that they are so unlucky to get the few that got by QC.
My experience with SLB 510 attys may be different from Scott's - 3 of the 5 I've tried are not that good and it isn't just the 901 in 510 clothing thing. They have a metalic taste that simply doesn't go away. But then maybe I got unlucky with those ;-)
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...blue-foam-blue-foam-blue-foam.html#post855240
"Just finally gave this a try, and so far I'm lovin it! It's staying wet and I've had no problems. Been vapin it pretty good for over an hour now, so I'd say this is a winner in my book."
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...blue-foam-blue-foam-blue-foam.html#post855240
"I've tried every mod and finally bought the blue foam last week. It's a total winner! I had tried several versions of it till I found a post from a member here saying that all you need to do is cut a piece 3/8" by 1/2", fold it in half and then cut the v notch. It rests right on the ledges of the 510 carts and works perfectly! No leaking at all and though I take the piece out to fill and then just squeeze it back in, it's the best mod I've used yet!"
Then:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/atomizer-mods/48436-new-atomizer-coil-shape-6.html#post889604
"Ok, let me get this straight...
I post a thread on using silica wood stove rope as wicking material in a cartridge, and I get blasted by a bunch of members and have my thread moved to some 'highly unrecommended ideas' forum or something; yet this thread which uses the exact same rope in the coil ITSELF is a sticky and praised by the same members? What the??? LOL "
Perhaps all the drama isn't about the 510 atomizers....
I've lost 1 Joye 510 atty in going on 7 months - and like sherid, using dozens of them. The idea posed that they lose power in 48 hours (another thread) is total bunk, except I'll allow for people's subjective experience - who knows what people do to these things? lol. Or... that they are so unlucky to get the few that got by QC.
My experience with SLB 510 attys may be different from Scott's - 3 of the 5 I've tried are not that good and it isn't just the 901 in 510 clothing thing. They have a metalic taste that simply doesn't go away. But then maybe I got unlucky with those ;-)
Not sure who you think you are but implying that this thread was intended as anything other than its stated purpose by me or questioning my motives without even having the courage to address me directly is not exactly something that is in the spirit I've found this community to have. So you might want to check yourself.
Yes, my search for the best cart mod was full of the same frustrations of mod after mod after mod until finally feeling the joy of one that worked that most other members here have shared. Your posting of that was next to worthless.
I'm still using the blue foam and just today in fact began testing the foam dart variation with much success. And since it appears you've been here a while, you do know that there's easily ascertainable differences between judging performance of a cart mod and judging the performance of an atomizer itself correct? I'd certainly hope so.
See, the blue foam continues to be the best way for me to get juice to the wick. I no longer am desperately searching for the best way to fill my cart, since I'm comfortable with the material I use now. But that does not mean that I'm happy with my atty performance. The one I'm using right now produces great throat hit and when moistened correctly tons of vapor. But it's the only one I have that works that way. My others give a very 'hollow' almost 'empty' feeling vapor and don't produce nearly as big of a cloud. I've tried blowing them out the same way; cleaning them the same way; moistening them the same way. But no luck in getting them performing any better than half that (if I'm lucky) as the one I'm using right now.
Now, as far as the third post you copied; it's pretty disingenuous of you to imply that the post would seem to indicate that I now hold some sort of grudge. Did you not see the big 'LOL' at the end, put there so that anyone would know that the statement was said in jest and light heartedly? You may need to loosen up a bit yourself if you read into it more than that.
I was surprised to see that thread yesterday is all. When I first started exploring cart mods (your 3rd copied post predates the first two, for sake of context) I was trying to be helpful to this community by finding something myself. I found the silica rope and it seemed perfect. I wasn't really educated on a lot about ecigs yet, but I tried anyway. My post on it was followed by a bunch of posts stating how bad an idea it was. My thread was then moved to a forum indicating it was a likely harmful thing to try. After thinking about it, I took the members' wisdom to heart and figured they were probably right. Then, a month later (or whatever), I find a thread with the same silica rope that is highly praised, made into a sticky, but where the same silica rope is actually used touching the coil? C'mon, you don't find that a bit humorous and ironic? I did, so I laughed a little about it publicly. But do you really think I take anonymous message board posting so seriously that I'd be offended enough by a moved thread to then post a disingenuous rant out of bitterness? LOL. Really? No, I don't take life that seriously. I hope you don't either.
Please don't question my motives in such a rude manner again. It most definitely is neither appreciated nor respectful; and from what I've seen here so far most definitely not aligned with the spirit of this community.
Yes, my search for the best cart mod was full of the same frustrations of mod after mod after mod until finally feeling the joy of one that worked that most other members here have shared. Your posting of that was next to worthless.
I'm still using the blue foam and just today in fact began testing the foam dart variation with much success. And since it appears you've been here a while, you do know that there's easily ascertainable differences between judging performance of a cart mod and judging the performance of an atomizer itself correct? I'd certainly hope so.
See, the blue foam continues to be the best way for me to get juice to the wick. I no longer am desperately searching for the best way to fill my cart, since I'm comfortable with the material I use now. But that does not mean that I'm happy with my atty performance. The one I'm using right now produces great throat hit and when moistened correctly tons of vapor. But it's the only one I have that works that way. My others give a very 'hollow' almost 'empty' feeling vapor and don't produce nearly as big of a cloud. I've tried blowing them out the same way; cleaning them the same way; moistening them the same way. But no luck in getting them performing any better than half that (if I'm lucky) as the one I'm using right now.
Now, as far as the third post you copied; it's pretty disingenuous of you to imply that the post would seem to indicate that I now hold some sort of grudge. Did you not see the big 'LOL' at the end, put there so that anyone would know that the statement was said in jest and light heartedly? You may need to loosen up a bit yourself if you read into it more than that.
I was surprised to see that thread yesterday is all. When I first started exploring cart mods (your 3rd copied post predates the first two, for sake of context) I was trying to be helpful to this community by finding something myself. I found the silica rope and it seemed perfect. I wasn't really educated on a lot about ecigs yet, but I tried anyway. My post on it was followed by a bunch of posts stating how bad an idea it was. My thread was then moved to a forum indicating it was a likely harmful thing to try. After thinking about it, I took the members' wisdom to heart and figured they were probably right. Then, a month later (or whatever), I find a thread with the same silica rope that is highly praised, made into a sticky, but where the same silica rope is actually used touching the coil? C'mon, you don't find that a bit humorous and ironic? I did, so I laughed a little about it publicly. But do you really think I take anonymous message board posting so seriously that I'd be offended enough by a moved thread to then post a disingenuous rant out of bitterness? LOL. Really? No, I don't take life that seriously. I hope you don't either.
Please don't question my motives in such a rude manner again. It most definitely is neither appreciated nor respectful; and from what I've seen here so far most definitely not aligned with the spirit of this community.
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I was pointing out that at some point you weren't having problems and after a point - that may very well be operative here - that you were. I thought it may be connected, if it wasn't connected then sorry if you took offense.
I appreciate the apology.
Nah, not connected at all. Being able to even get ANY hit off an atomizer is a big deal when not wanting to go back to analogs, so I was excited to find easy ways to fill without dripping every two seconds that at least let the atomizer hit me at all. But now that I'm used to how to do that, I can tell far more the inadequacies in consistency with the atty's. I've been frustrated throughout my entire course of ecigs with atty performance and was disappointed as can be when I ordered 2 from one supplier (both had fibers burning or something, so that the burnt taste never went away no matter what I did) and 5 from another, only to have most of them still under perform. What makes it harder is realizing that there are so many here who swear by their 510, so it makes me feel like I'm just having horrible luck. I just want, nay, NEED, consistency. I vape almost constantly and feel an emptiness (addiction) if I'm not. But I have to feel the hit or it does nothing. Maybe I just require too much from it?
Anyway, no hard feelings. I know I'm still relatively new and I didn't want anyone to have the impression from your post that I'm anything less than genuine in anything I say or do. It was a character attack; in a way, on your part so I had to answer in the way I did because once people get an impression in their head that someone is disingenuous etc, it's hard even over time to get them to think otherwise. I did not want to have my experience here hampered in that way, ya know?
Thing is, this forum has saved me in so many ways. I'm addicted to ECF and love the members here; for their wisdom, creativity and common plight. I don't want to ever give off any other impression.
So it's all good. Peace and happy new year man.
Nah, not connected at all. Being able to even get ANY hit off an atomizer is a big deal when not wanting to go back to analogs, so I was excited to find easy ways to fill without dripping every two seconds that at least let the atomizer hit me at all. But now that I'm used to how to do that, I can tell far more the inadequacies in consistency with the atty's. I've been frustrated throughout my entire course of ecigs with atty performance and was disappointed as can be when I ordered 2 from one supplier (both had fibers burning or something, so that the burnt taste never went away no matter what I did) and 5 from another, only to have most of them still under perform. What makes it harder is realizing that there are so many here who swear by their 510, so it makes me feel like I'm just having horrible luck. I just want, nay, NEED, consistency. I vape almost constantly and feel an emptiness (addiction) if I'm not. But I have to feel the hit or it does nothing. Maybe I just require too much from it?
Anyway, no hard feelings. I know I'm still relatively new and I didn't want anyone to have the impression from your post that I'm anything less than genuine in anything I say or do. It was a character attack; in a way, on your part so I had to answer in the way I did because once people get an impression in their head that someone is disingenuous etc, it's hard even over time to get them to think otherwise. I did not want to have my experience here hampered in that way, ya know?
Thing is, this forum has saved me in so many ways. I'm addicted to ECF and love the members here; for their wisdom, creativity and common plight. I don't want to ever give off any other impression.
So it's all good. Peace and happy new year man.
IAMREALITY:I appreciate the apology.
Nah, not connected at all. Being able to even get ANY hit off an atomizer is a big deal when not wanting to go back to analogs
Totally understand.
so I was excited to find easy ways to fill without dripping every two seconds that at least let the atomizer hit me at all. But now that I'm used to how to do that, I can tell far more the inadequacies in consistency with the atty's. I've been frustrated throughout my entire course of ecigs with atty performance and was disappointed as can be when I ordered 2 from one supplier (both had fibers burning or something, so that the burnt taste never went away no matter what I did) and 5 from another, only to have most of them still under perform.
Looks like your original kit was a joye but I have had problems with SLB 510's with not just performance but also a metalic taste that won't go no matter what I do. I don't have those problems with my Joye's whether they are titan, dura, yeti or Joye from heaven gifts or elsewhere.
I do know that the cart is separate from the atty
but I do find it hard to know how well a cart mod is doing if the atty isn't performing well and that was my main point that in your earlier praising of certain cart mods, there is an underlying assumption (and I know the thing about 'assume' - it seems to be affecting me that for you to know that the atty had to be somewhat effective.
What makes it harder is realizing that there are so many here who swear by their 510, so it makes me feel like I'm just having horrible luck.
Also understandable. And you mentioned 'your luck' too so perhaps that's going on. I'll just say that I think if you stick with Joye (in case that you changed) that you'll get some that will stay at top performance for months. I lost only one and that was 'pilot error' in a 'dry burn' gone wrong.
I just want, nay, NEED, consistency. I vape almost constantly and feel an emptiness (addiction) if I'm not. But I have to feel the hit or it does nothing. Maybe I just require too much from it?
I doubt it. I think many of us are in that same boat - we seem to be the group who the gum, patches and chantix didn't 'take'. And our demands are greater. My guess is we'll look back on these days the way we look back at our early computers with 4k of RAM!
Anyway, no hard feelings. I know I'm still relatively new and I didn't want anyone to have the impression from your post that I'm anything less than genuine in anything I say or do. It was a character attack; in a way, on your part so I had to answer in the way I did because once people get an impression in their head that someone is disingenuous etc, it's hard even over time to get them to think otherwise.
Agreed, the implication was that it may be 'pilot error'. It happens. Again, sorry for that.
I did not want to have my experience here hampered in that way, ya know?
Thing is, this forum has saved me in so many ways. I'm addicted to ECF and love the members here; for their wisdom, creativity and common plight. I don't want to ever give off any other impression.
So it's all good. Peace and happy new year man.
I'm good if you're good, then. Happy and more fortunate and prosperous New Year to you.
Nah, not connected at all. Being able to even get ANY hit off an atomizer is a big deal when not wanting to go back to analogs
Totally understand.
so I was excited to find easy ways to fill without dripping every two seconds that at least let the atomizer hit me at all. But now that I'm used to how to do that, I can tell far more the inadequacies in consistency with the atty's. I've been frustrated throughout my entire course of ecigs with atty performance and was disappointed as can be when I ordered 2 from one supplier (both had fibers burning or something, so that the burnt taste never went away no matter what I did) and 5 from another, only to have most of them still under perform.
Looks like your original kit was a joye but I have had problems with SLB 510's with not just performance but also a metalic taste that won't go no matter what I do. I don't have those problems with my Joye's whether they are titan, dura, yeti or Joye from heaven gifts or elsewhere.
I do know that the cart is separate from the atty
but I do find it hard to know how well a cart mod is doing if the atty isn't performing well and that was my main point that in your earlier praising of certain cart mods, there is an underlying assumption (and I know the thing about 'assume' - it seems to be affecting me that for you to know that the atty had to be somewhat effective. What makes it harder is realizing that there are so many here who swear by their 510, so it makes me feel like I'm just having horrible luck.
Also understandable. And you mentioned 'your luck' too so perhaps that's going on. I'll just say that I think if you stick with Joye (in case that you changed) that you'll get some that will stay at top performance for months. I lost only one and that was 'pilot error' in a 'dry burn' gone wrong.
I just want, nay, NEED, consistency. I vape almost constantly and feel an emptiness (addiction) if I'm not. But I have to feel the hit or it does nothing. Maybe I just require too much from it?
I doubt it. I think many of us are in that same boat - we seem to be the group who the gum, patches and chantix didn't 'take'. And our demands are greater. My guess is we'll look back on these days the way we look back at our early computers with 4k of RAM!
Anyway, no hard feelings. I know I'm still relatively new and I didn't want anyone to have the impression from your post that I'm anything less than genuine in anything I say or do. It was a character attack; in a way, on your part so I had to answer in the way I did because once people get an impression in their head that someone is disingenuous etc, it's hard even over time to get them to think otherwise.
Agreed, the implication was that it may be 'pilot error'. It happens. Again, sorry for that.
I did not want to have my experience here hampered in that way, ya know?
Thing is, this forum has saved me in so many ways. I'm addicted to ECF and love the members here; for their wisdom, creativity and common plight. I don't want to ever give off any other impression.
So it's all good. Peace and happy new year man.
I'm good if you're good, then. Happy and more fortunate and prosperous New Year to you.
I heard it was a no-no for compressed air (as in the canned air)...I think Scottbee is talking about an actual air compressor, which is just air under pressure in a small tank, no propellent. I think its the propellent that is the problem for the atty's.
I agreed. I have purchased over 10 attys and only about 3 performed well.
Got tired of the 510 and I am now using cartomizers. KR808.
So it is a humidifier?
it keeps things moist?
if its a cool dark environment in there, wont things go mouldy?
I have a camera dry box that keeps everything at 30% humidity, and ambient humidity where i'm from is between 70-95%. what's ideal for storing, and is it just the attys you store in there? thanks
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