Everyone Loves Their 510 But Me. Are 510 Atomizers Dependent On Supplier?

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Scottbee

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Scott,

My point was that it didn't appear to be going down the the coil, but instead almost straight out to the sides.

I've never ever seen this on a 510 atty. If you pull out a brand new 510 atty and the supplemental wick sticks straight out to the side and does not loop down to the coil pot, don't even bother putting it on a battery. It won't work worth a dayum. Send it right back for a refund or replacement. Every reputable importer that I have worked with will acknowledge that this is a legitimate defect.
 

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Try Rocky Mountain Vapor. Out of 4 attys I only had 1 that was bad off the bat and I'm still using the second atty, its been about a week too. Basically the learning curve for "Genuine" Joye attys is, if it gurgles, it needs blown out(NOT CLEANED) but just blown out. I usually take a good 20 min and blow out all the old juice out the bottom of the atty into a napkin a few times until I cant even get a single drop to come out. So the point is, a sizzle is good, a gurgle is bad. You CAN hear the difference. Also I burnt through attys 1 every few days at 6v so its not worth it to me. Just my opinion. :D

Warranty. That's all.

Perhaps im missing something here but on their website, the TAWA and the non-TAWA have different pics. is this just a camera perspective/angle thing?
Janty USA - DURA
 

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Thanks scottbee.

would you care to share how you got your "poorly performing" attys to improve? I reckon experience counts in troubleshooting. (like gurgling vs sizzling noise in diagnosing floods vs dry)

Ive never had a problem when I flood my atty. I just vape it out. Never had one die before from it. When I need my fix its just 2 drops on the atty, about 10 puffs, and its dry.

At the end of the night or if changing flavors I blow it out till I get most of the liquid out.

Its so weird hearing all these horror stories. The only thing close I have is that one died in a week.......otherwise I keep them around for a month or so then toss them for a new one.
 

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all i can say is i have been using a kr808-1 and have had no problems , i like the 2 piece system versus the 3 piece . I have know someone in personal life that used a 510 and has nothing nice to say about it . with the cartomizers used by the 808 vaping is made easy , if a cart goes out then not really a big deal due to each cart has there own atomizer . refilling is easy as well . i do not believe i would even try a 510 since this works so well.
 

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all i can say is i have been using a kr808-1 and have had no problems , i like the 2 piece system versus the 3 piece . I have know someone in personal life that used a 510 and has nothing nice to say about it . with the cartomizers used by the 808 vaping is made easy , if a cart goes out then not really a big deal due to each cart has there own atomizer . refilling is easy as well . i do not believe i would even try a 510 since this works so well.

I gave the KR808D-1 a serious try. I really wanted it to work. Couldn't handle the lackluster performance. Couldn't stand the ergonomics. Can't stomach Dekang PG liquid. And I hate the concept of inhaling burning/melting filler material. Besides that.. they are VERY convenient and simple to use! ;)
 

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Straight out the sides? Sounds bizarre- out the sides down in the atty or out the side of the cig threads? If cig threads-overfilling issue is my guess. Other question would be are you using any cart mods?

808- with a adapater here. Like it too. I did check my filler material and it was fine. I dont get much life out of the cartos. I like ease of a 2 to 3 drips on atty lots after removing the filler. Very easy and not messy. Last as long as a 510 that way -without topping off ( for me at any rate). Taste better too and less e-juice wasted
 
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v4l555lover

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I gave the KR808D-1 a serious try. I really wanted it to work. Couldn't handle the lackluster performance. Couldn't stand the ergonomics. Can't stomach Dekang PG liquid. And I hate the concept of inhaling burning/melting filler material. Besides that.. they are VERY convenient and simple to use! ;)

they have other liquids , i mainly use 555 .
 

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808- with a adapater here. Like it too. I did check my filler material and it was fine. I dont get much life out of the cartos. I like ease of a 2 to 3 drips on atty lots after removing the filler. Very easy and not messy. Last as long as a 510 that way -without topping off ( for me at any rate). Taste better too and less e-juice wasted

i have never had problems with fillers have refilled a cart 20 times , rinsing it out every 4-5 refills and keep going good . the atomizers do burn out after about 20 refills on the carts though , but still not too bad .
 

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Thanks scottbee.

would you care to share how you got your "poorly performing" attys to improve? I reckon experience counts in troubleshooting. (like gurgling vs sizzling noise in diagnosing floods vs dry)

An initial "bad flood" and overheat of many of my atomizers caused the coil not to work well due to "gunk" caramelized on the coil and clogging up the mesh.

There was a recent thread on here about a cleaning method that involves warm water and a "dry burn" that worked exceptionally well for me. I can't find the original thread (sorry OP.. no props!), so I'll give you the Reader's Digest condensed version:

1) Run warm water into the cartridge side of the atty. Blow it out via mouth-pressure from the cartridge end. Repeat this about a dozen times or until the little vein sticks out of your forehead. Plugging the center hole on the battery end with your finger is a good idea.

2) Mouth-blow the atty as dry as you can get it.

3) Hook the atty up to a good battery or a PT and press the button for 3-5 seconds. Let the atty cool for 3-5 seconds. Continue to do this until you see the coil glow red hot and then stop. This may take quite a while (but it is the key!). If yo never see the coil glow red hot, then you either have a bad battery.... or the atty is too far gone.

4) Repeat step #1. You are doing this to remove the ash and fried gunk created in step #3.

5) Blow the atty dry again. I accelerate this process by using an air compressor.

6) Re-prime the atty with 3-4 drops of liquid.

7) Vape. The atty will almost immediately consume about a half a cart of liquid with little vapor production as the parts get re-wetted. But after that it should come on strong.

As a side note.. and many people don't realize this: If, under normal vaping conditions, the outside of your atty gets quite warm... that almost always means you have TOO MUCH liquid in the atty (many folks think it is running dry). Pull the cartridge off and replace it with a cart with no filler. You'll be able to vape for quite a while before it tastes "dry". Now figure out why your cart is nearly flooding your atty!
 

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i have never had problems with fillers have refilled a cart 20 times , rinsing it out every 4-5 refills and keep going good . the atomizers do burn out after about 20 refills on the carts though , but still not too bad .

Have you ever taken one of your KR808D-1 carts apart???? I'm betting the answer is no.
 

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Thanks scottbee for the tips.

Everywhere i've read, they say NEVER to hook up a wet atty. They say leave to dry for a day or two. I was afraid that using a freshly washed, wet atty will short-circuit it somehow?

Then again, some folks have vaped on wet attys with no issue. Perhaps you can put an end to this conflicting info? cheers man
 

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I have had problems with Janty atomizers too. I took full advantage of that warranty and I ate six of them before I got one that lasted over 2 weeks. I got one from another supplier and that one lasted almost 2 months until I lost it. Got another from the same supplier that one lasted 3 weeks. The next lasted 2 weeks. The next was a good one and lasted 1.5 months until I lost it. the next was 1.5 weeks. All were Joye and not knock offs. This is why I blame their QC. With all of the inconsistency in their production this leads me to believe that they must be hand assembled with machine assist. Most machines do not have the margin of error that is this large. Hand assembly is not really an issue if the tolerances are adhered to. These are the issues that I have noticed when inspecting my dead attys: 1. Incorrect amounts of wick. I have seen too much (clogs easily) and I have seen too little (quick to under produce or feeding problems) 2. Poor wire quality. (coil pops usually within the first 2days of use) 3. Bad solders this one is a little less common but I have seen it happen on one occasion.

Just don’t get me wrong and say I hate the device. I love my 510. If I didn’t love the performance (when it is working properly) I would not be getting so many parts for it. I guess this is the price of great vapor production in a small package.
 

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Thanks scottbee for the tips.

Everywhere i've read, they say NEVER to hook up a wet atty. They say leave to dry for a day or two. I was afraid that using a freshly washed, wet atty will short-circuit it somehow?

Then again, some folks have vaped on wet attys with no issue. Perhaps you can put an end to this conflicting info? cheers man

Nothing wrong with hooking up a wet atty. You'll just get steam for a bit. No electrical worries at all. Keep in mind that a lot of e-liquids have water in them.. some have a LOT of water in them. Attys handle water constantly.

Of course, if you have tap water that has a lot of calcium and other minerals in it.. then it's a good idea to get as much of that out of the atty before using. Air drying doesn't help since the minerals still stay in the atty!
 

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is there a way to identify knock-offs from the real thing?

A dead giveaway is if your attys look like these:

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Genuine Joye attys don't have silver ring around the bridge. Their coil pots are somewhat rectangular instead of round, and the bridges will be narrower than the ones shown. You will also be able to see the supplemental wick easier. The clones shown above are made by SLB (aka "L2" attys).
 
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