I was gonna say I hope she got that stuff cheap since they printed the logo backwards, maybe eating a Snickers when they did it?
I didn't even think that she would try to buy votes. I wouldn't put it past her or the Dems but that would also come out in WikiLeaks
. You will see real civil unrest if that happens. And the guys/gals on the right are well armed. During Obama's tenure, he's been culling the military leaders and only keeping "yes" men so I would be surprised if any currently serving "leaders" would stay. Trump has the backing of a LOT of good military leaders so I'm not too worried about his picks.
They don't use the military to deport illegals. The INS (Immigration and Naturalization Services) was changed to USCIS (US Citizenship and Immigration Services) and was put under the Dept of Homeland Security. More illegal immigrants have been deported under Obama than any other president to date. That's a tidbit of fact that the media won't report.
Coffee before anything else!Yeah, I sometimes put my underwear on backwards too before my first cup of coffee.
It would only come out on Wikileaks if they can find the paper-trail or money-trail. That has been a fear of mine as all this is way too orchestrated.I didn't even think that she would try to buy votes. I wouldn't put it past her or the Dems but that would also come out in WikiLeaks
During Obama's tenure, he's been culling the military leaders and only keeping "yes" men so I would be surprised if any currently serving "leaders" would stay. Trump has the backing of a LOT of good military leaders so I'm not too worried about his picks.
They don't use the military to deport illegals. The INS (Immigration and Naturalization Services) was changed to USCIS (US Citizenship and Immigration Services) and was put under the Dept of Homeland Security. More illegal immigrants have been deported under Obama than any other president to date. That's a tidbit of fact that the media won't report.
Coffee before anything else!
Agreed on the INS. Merely repeating what CNN is putting out there (again to incite unrest just like the CNN commentator claiming on air the Election was a "Whitelash" from Middle America against a black president).
Seeing this posted around on boards but seems a rather untrustworthy right wing source as CNN, FOX, CBS, NBC, ABC, NYT, & AP, all are reflecting different information (in most instances, different from one another): FINAL ELECTION 2016 NUMBERS: TRUMP WON BOTH POPULAR ( 62.9 M -62.2 M ) AND ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTES ( 306-232)…HEY CHANGE.ORG, SCRAP YOUR LOONY PETITION NOW!
(LOVE the profile pic on the Twitter post he is using as source!)
EDIT: Turns out they are basing this on the fact that Absentee Ballots Cast in any state are not counted unless the amount of Absentee Ballots exceeds the State's margin between the candidates. They are then assuming that Absentee Ballots are cast by businessmen, students, military, diplomats/family, etc abroad and saying that an overall historical percentage is 67%R-37%D. They then multiply that percentage by absentee ballots reported received by all states to come up with the refined figures. (They are also saying that based on this, Al Gore did not actually win the popular vote over George Bush in 2000).
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and it wouldn't amount to a hill of beans anyhow! popular vote is meaningless because both campaigns were geared to electoral votes and swing states. people in safe states feel so disenfranchised lots stay home on election day. since 1996 the percentage of voters has dropped in safe states compared to swing states. in 2012 the difference was almost 9% and i expect it to be even higher this time around .............
Trust me, I'm a Republican from Jersey and understand the sentiment well.
It would serve to take the wind out of the sails of Civil Unrest created in the wake of the election with the protests by removing the Ideologically strongest argument that Hillary won the popular vote, yet lost the Election. It certainly wouldn't stop them, but it would slow them down a bit by removing a false justification. It would also justify a more aggressive response in enforcement.
I didn't realize that the absentee ballots weren't counted as a matter of course in all states while certifying the election results final tally though, which I do find a bit disconcerting, especially in situations like this.
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why? the by-product of the so-called 'popular vote' count has no effect on the electoral college votes. so, if there are not enough absentee ballots to possibly change the outcome why bother?
Why count absentee ballots? Maybe because they are the votes, legal votes, of citizens of the United States who are fulfilling their civic duty as citizens? I never realized that votes don't count like that. Talk about be disenfranchised!
I wonder what the popular vote might be if all the dead people and "undocumented" votes were removed? There is growing evidence that both are widespread occurrences on a nationwide basis.
I wonder what the popular vote might be if all the dead people and "undocumented" votes were removed? There is growing evidence that both are widespread occurrences on a nationwide basis.
Because these protests are being staged by billionaire George Sorros.why? the by-product of the so-called 'popular vote' count has no effect on the electoral college votes. so, if there are not enough absentee ballots to possibly change the outcome why bother?
- Sorros is hoping that by funding these protests he can create massive civil unrest in the country so he can manipulate global financial markets so he can hedge his 24 billion dollars into quite a bit more and that kinda ticks me off that people are getting hurt and shot in the streets to feed his greed and megalomania.
- They are telling the protestors they are hoping to persuade the Electoral College by petition and protest to become Faithless Electors and reverse the results on Dec 19 on the grounds Trump is fundamentally unfit to serve in the office.
- Sorros easily has the money to bribe 30 people to change their vote accordingly. Sorros might also like to see that happen as:
- He gets his presidential puppet in the office he invested so much to put her in.
- It would start a lot more turmoil & loss of life when the Republicans lash out and America rips itself apart, the market crashes and he would make a whole lot more by knowing in advance what would happen.
Trump winning the popular vote count brings us that much closer to avoiding that.
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Voter fraud was estimated at 3-3.8 million votes by some unsubstantiated sources which is much lower than years past due to wikileaks and the voter fraud videos you posted before the election making the Dems think twice this cycle.
it's not gonna happen!!!!!!!!!!!! i believe california has 3 million uncounted absentee ballots! those were unnecessary to hand the electoral votes to clinton.
Yeah, your right I guess.
Highly unlikely Sorros would risk bribing 30 people to make billions by crashing the economy and installing & controlling a corrupt US President who could pardon him if he got caught.
He couldn't be that much of a scumbag, Could he? Boy my imagination sure can get the better of me sometimes.
Thanks for bringing me back to reality and restoring my faith in humanity!
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3 million people literally being disenfranchised by deliberate action of a quite Liberal, albeit socialist/progressive, run state. Boggles the mind! Then the complaints start about a lack of voter participation, any wonder why people don't bother to vote? Like Tpat I'm stuck in a sea of people who have had too much liberal coolaid, but I voted my conscience anyway in the belief that it does make a difference, somewhere, somehow. Throw in the gerrymandering that goes on, on the part of both parties, and things get even worse. The system is very, very, broken and needs to get fixed, and very soon, or all that we know and love will be gone forever.
not really, tpat! i wasn't responding to your sorros 'musings' but your hope that counting all absentee ballots past the point necessary for the electoral votes would give trump the 'popular vote'!
the only thing that bothers me - could counting all votes bring the libertarians to the 5% needed for federal funding?
not sure how broken the system is, awsum. without the electoral college, elections will be decided by the population centers on the east and west coasts
and that sea of red on the map below won't count for a thing
lol, forgot to post that map!
those are the election results 2016, county by county
those are the election results 2016, county by county
yup so, for the time being, the electoral college will do its job.*** much better though, imo, would be an, at the least, 3-party system. coalitions would have to be formed to achieve majority and people would have to learn to compromise! and that might get some more votes out from all those people who are neither red nor blue and stay home out of frustration
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so, for the time being, the electoral college will do its job.*** much better though, imo, would be an, at the least, 3-party system. coalitions would have to be formed to achieve majority and people would have to learn to compromise! and that might get some more votes out from all those people who are neither red nor blue and stay home out of frustration edit *** we hope!
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