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Yeah here where I live they reccommend it, all the waters are heavily treated with chemicals and have lead, pretty much all fridges are sold with it & even at lowes/home depot a lot of faucets are starting to have built in small on/off Brita filter ones. The one on the main line, I think all of the condo's come with that, but with so much water going through it I understand why it goes so quickly. If we're not going to use that one, my gf just wants a sink one for washing foods & veggies & whatnot (she's vegetarian) but for spraying crap off plates & silverware & whatnot we'll be able to turn the bypass for full flow.

This took longer than I thought, had to make some more jigsaws cuts but this is how the frame ended up, still not completely sure how I want to do this, I was thinking of just nut & bolting it.
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I think you're headed in the right direction Kiba. The mid/top height trash can holders are the way to go, the bottom trays don't work well cuz the trash can just tips out when you try to slide them.
As Willie mentioned, the Kreg Jigs are great tools. They get quite a workout in my cabinet shop.
 
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Willie back when I used to do consulting I'd build P.A.'s for dj's who used those, it's basically a giant vape pen. One guy had me install one in his rack so it'd shoot the stuff out the back, & he'd put stage lights behind.

There's another thing in this never-ending project I wanted to pick your guys' brains for advice on, I'm going to be putting these things under the sink tomorrow, there is a main line one but the filter goes out way too fast which I'm assuming will add $ up over time... Also rn it's being used for hand/clothes/dish washing/turlets/showers which is imo unnecessary so I'm putting this one in that has a valve which replaces soap dispensary & can be shut on/off for when you don't need it. I'm just going to take the filter off the main line one & use this instead.

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Anybody done this & has pointers? Is it even any good or should I get a different one online? Bc I don't mind spending money on things like this & the nest that pretty much pays for itself. I don't want a huge osmosis one w/ a tank but if there's a better one out there, that has the valve & doesn't make me replace my brand new hose/faucet I'll get it... I'm not so good w/ plumbing, when I replaced the tube in the bathroom I had a bit of an accident that I was lucky enough to be able to get to the cut off quickly.

Our water, here, is well water and has a high amount of manganese and iron. When we moved in there was an old, whole house, filter but it didn't work worth a darn and everything was getting rust stains and we were going through Pur filters on a weekly basis for drinking water. I looked around, online, and ordered a whole house filter designed, specifically, for iron and manganese. I added a chlorine injector to kill any iron bacteria which could ruin the filter media. I also added a four stage reverse osmosis filter for drinking/cooking water at the kitchen sink.

Needless to say, the whole house filter is in the basement right at the tank for the well. The RO filter is under the kitchen, right below the sink and has its own five gallon storage tank. I added a demand pump to that to make sure there was good flow with the five foot, or so, rise to the sink. I could add more faucets to that for the bathrooms, but the water coming off the whole house filter is very clean. The water off the RO filter is, basically, distilled water quality. We noticed a big change in taste, no more irony taste, once I got the whole house one in place.

Willie's tips on plumbing are spot on. I've made it a habit to add shut off valves every time I have to work on plumbing or add something. It sure saves a lot of mess if something goes wrong!

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There was a time when guys posted about vaping at 20 watts and I thought they were BS'n
Not me, I guess bc I knew that some people were already doing that in mechs. Matter of fact the first dna that I held in my hands was the dna 20 at one of the vapercons in Richmond.

I think you're headed in the right direction Kiba. The mid/top height trash can holders are the way to go, the bottom trays don't work well cuz the trash can just tips out when you try to slide them.
As Willie mentioned, the Kreg Jigs are great tools. They get quite a workout in my cabinet shop.
Yeah I got it 90% completed, I kind if went with what Willie said but used a corner joint to hold in the bin, it's shorter though so I need some kind of stopper for it. Maybe just a zip tie or something.
Our water, here, is well water and has a high amount of manganese and iron. When we moved in there was an old, whole house, filter but it didn't work worth a darn and everything was getting rust stains and we were going through Pur filters on a weekly basis for drinking water. I looked around, online, and ordered a whole house filter designed, specifically, for iron and manganese. I added a chlorine injector to kill any iron bacteria which could ruin the filter media. I also added a four stage reverse osmosis filter for drinking/cooking water at the kitchen sink.

Needless to say, the whole house filter is in the basement right at the tank for the well. The RO filter is under the kitchen, right below the sink and has its own five gallon storage tank. I added a demand pump to that to make sure there was good flow with the five foot, or so, rise to the sink. I could add more faucets to that for the bathrooms, but the water coming off the whole house filter is very clean. The water off the RO filter is, basically, distilled water quality. We noticed a big change in taste, no more irony taste, once I got the whole house one in place.

Willie's tips on plumbing are spot on. I've made it a habit to add shut off valves every time I have to work on plumbing or add something. It sure saves a lot of mess if something goes wrong!

Whole house filter -


Reverse osmosis filter, tank and pump -
Yeah I've seen the RO ones & they even have one for under the sink. But we won't have the room for it under the sink. The main line one we have is only 2filters and it doesn't have the big tank. There is still a slight metallic taste but the overall quality is very clean according to the test the home inspection did... If it was cheaper or lasting longer I'd be definitely using it still.

I find it funny that these condo's were made in '99 and the builders were already putting those in, stock.

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Not me, I guess bc I knew that some people were already doing that in mechs.
Were they really? I remember taking the tank off one of my first DNA20s and handing the mod to a vape kiosk guy who had his tank on a mech. He put his tank on it, cranked it all the way up to 20 watts, and took a big long hit. His reaction? "Argh! I think I just burnt my cotton!"
 

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Our water, here, is well water and has a high amount of manganese and iron. When we moved in there was an old, whole house, filter but it didn't work worth a darn and everything was getting rust stains and we were going through Pur filters on a weekly basis for drinking water. I looked around, online, and ordered a whole house filter designed, specifically, for iron and manganese. I added a chlorine injector to kill any iron bacteria which could ruin the filter media. I also added a four stage reverse osmosis filter for drinking/cooking water at the kitchen sink.

Needless to say, the whole house filter is in the basement right at the tank for the well. The RO filter is under the kitchen, right below the sink and has its own five gallon storage tank. I added a demand pump to that to make sure there was good flow with the five foot, or so, rise to the sink. I could add more faucets to that for the bathrooms, but the water coming off the whole house filter is very clean. The water off the RO filter is, basically, distilled water quality. We noticed a big change in taste, no more irony taste, once I got the whole house one in place.

Willie's tips on plumbing are spot on. I've made it a habit to add shut off valves every time I have to work on plumbing or add something. It sure saves a lot of mess if something goes wrong!

Whole house filter -


Reverse osmosis filter, tank and pump -
That's a lot of tidy plumbing work there, well, except for the purple primer:D
Just funnin which ya. If you're like me you used what you had on hand.
One thing I noticed is the copper clamps you used for the copper pipe coming from the 5 gallon tank, good call. Are those plated steel clamps on the copper pipe coming from your pressure tank? I love the remote RO setup, that's slick.
 

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If you mean the shot of the big filter, it's all copper pipe except for the "snake bite" braided hoses going to the filter tank. The clamps and hangers are all copper, I'm OCD. The translucent tank on the left is the chlorination tank, 10 gallons, with an injector pump, slaved to the well pump, sitting on top. The bib and garden hose are just there for filling the chlorination tank. The only plastic pipe is the waste water line from the main filter and I left enough "slop" there to allow it to flex with the pressure surges when it washes itself every night. If you've never used "snake bite" stuff give it a try, really neat and fast with no solder or glue and they can be taken apart and reassembled multiple times if needed.

That RO system was designed for under cabinet use, but we didn't want to give up that much cabinet space so I mounted it in the basement. Sort of a kludge to mount the storage tank, but it works. It also feeds the refrigerator for the ice maker.

Oh yeah, I hung the porcelain keyless at the same time and added another over the furnace for service work there. Water and electricity, what fun!

Kiba, it makes me wonder exactly WHY the builder was putting in filters. Maybe he knew something the town wasn't sharing and was trying to avoid liabilities. A dodge you could use for an RO filter would be to mount it remotely, in a closet or somewhere else, and just run some 1/4" flex tube to the sink for it. Depending on the length, a booster pump like I have would keep the flow at a decent level. With that pump it only takes about 30 seconds to fill a four quart pot with enough water to cook pasta. The big trick would be routing the tubing.
 
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This is how I hooked my whole house carbon block filter in.

I valved it in so I could isolate (and/or bypass) it locally when I change the cartridge.

It supplies my fish tank, the Bar Sink downstairs, the Espresso machine, and the refrigerator water/ice upstairs. I test with a chlorine test strip and a cartridge last me 2-3 years.



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If you mean the shot of the big filter, it's all copper pipe except for the "snake bite" braided hoses going to the filter tank. The clamps and hangers are all copper, I'm OCD. The translucent tank on the left is the chlorination tank, 10 gallons, with an injector pump, slaved to the well pump, sitting on top. The bib and garden hose are just there for filling the chlorination tank. The only plastic pipe is the waste water line from the main filter and I left enough "slop" there to allow it to flex with the pressure surges when it washes itself every night. If you've never used "snake bite" stuff give it a try, really neat and fast with no solder or glue and they can be taken apart and reassembled multiple times if needed.

That RO system was designed for under cabinet use, but we didn't want to give up that much cabinet space so I mounted it in the basement. Sort of a kludge to mount the storage tank, but it works. It also feeds the refrigerator for the ice maker.

Oh yeah, I hung the porcelain keyless at the same time and added another over the furnace for service work there. Water and electricity, what fun!

Kiba, it makes me wonder exactly WHY the builder was putting in filters. Maybe he knew something the town wasn't sharing and was trying to avoid liabilities. A dodge you could use for an RO filter would be to mount it remotely, in a closet or somewhere else, and just run some 1/4" flex tube to the sink for it. Depending on the length, a booster pump like I have would keep the flow at a decent level. With that pump it only takes about 30 seconds to fill a four quart pot with enough water to cook pasta. The big trick would be routing the tubing.
Yeah I thought about that, like in the utility room or something but routing it would be a real pain. I replaced recently some pvc with flex steel, bc I was worried about someone stepping on it (it's in a weird spot next to the turlet bc we're on the bottom floor & it has to be routed back to the point where it comes in through the cinder blocks) and I made a huge mistake of letting my wrench slip and about a gallon of water went all over, but I immediately ran to the next cut off.

How much does it cost to replace all of the RO filters & how often do you have to do it? & also is there a bypass for the RO or is it always on for the kitchen sink?

The builder put it in in '99 but now in (2010+,i think, they're required for new houses & condo' s, not apartments though) It's weird but my main line one doesn't look like any of your guys', it's two fat ones next to each other.

The other reason for bypassing it is bc when I turned the valves, & took a shower, the pressure felt so good lol
 
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The RO filters get replaced about every two years and the full set of six costs about $80. It's based on demand and there are only the two of us, plus Leo, using it for cooking/drinking. Not all that bad to end up with, basically, distilled water on demand. There's no bypass for it but there is a shutoff on the line I tapped that supplies it though, otherwise changing the filters would mean shutting off the whole house. The faucet for it is one of those "J" styles with a lever that sits separate from the actual kitchen faucet.

There are actually two supply lines in the house after the pressure tank for the well, that is. One goes to the whole house filter and the rest of the house while the other provides untreated water for the hose bibs. I also have color coded all the piping in the basement, other than DWV which is PVC, including the hot water heating piping. Makes it easier to figure it out which pipe is which from wherever I'm standing rather than trace pipes.

I've added two more hose bibs than were here, originally, so now there's on on each corner of the house. Having a big yard made a lot of hose necessary so I added more bibs to cut that own a little. It's still a long ways in the back yard, about 250 feet, but we don't have to water anything back there very often, thankfully.

Incidentally, I'd hate to give up cabinet space for a trash can, but I guess it depends on the layout and the aesthetics of each situation. We have a standalone trash can for "trash", another for recyclables, as well as a bucket for "wet" garbage that goes into the compost bins. Then there's the BIG mulch pen for yard waste and I chip/shred all the leaves, grass clippings and tree limbs that come down. How'd garbage get so darn complicated?
 

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Problem is the guy before us took that with him, so there's no tray in there like the rest of them. Plus we have like 4 types of recyclable crap already out (btw I hate it, I have to drive this crap over in my car bc our association only does trash). Also I finished it last night, it ended up ok, I need to put a handle on the front & put zip ties on the back rail to stop it, but I think it ended up alright, definitely its the biggest one that'll fit in there.
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Supposed to be a tray like this one
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