Evolv-ing Thread

[SlickWilly]

We were all picked on at one point while going to school, but the thought of taking a weapon there never ever entered my mind.

Little Johnny should have died on the scene as well IMHO.

Yeah every kid has been picked on, it's different when a group of kids target another and take it to another level for months on end. Most kids get past it, I did, my granddaughter did, but take a kid that's all ready unstable and you can push them over the edge, it only takes one. I ended my problem when I finally had enough and I punched John square in the nose, yeah I ended up the looser of that fight but everyone knew I might just punch you in the mouth if you pushed me, never had another problem after that. I suggested to my daughter that she enroll my granddaughter into martial arts so she could defend herself, the kid has been in dancing since she was very young and it that would make it easier for her to learn but my daughter chose not to.

The schools need to take bulling seriously, kids are supposed to be safe at school, not separated from everyone because they have been targeted, that just makes it worse.

 

[TrollDragon]

Yeah every kid has been picked on, it's different when a group of kids target another and take it to another level for months on end. Most kids get past it, I did, my granddaughter did, but take a kid that's all ready unstable and you can push them over the edge, it only takes one. I ended my problem when I finally had enough and I punched John square in the nose, yeah I ended up the looser of that fight but everyone knew I might just punch you in the mouth if you pushed me, never had another problem after that. I suggested to my daughter that she enroll my granddaughter into martial arts so she could defend herself, the kid has been in dancing since she was very young and it that would make it easier for her to learn but my daughter chose not to.

The schools need to take bulling seriously, kids are supposed to be safe at school, not separated from everyone because they have been targeted, that just makes it worse.

I fully agree. Schools need to take action. Turf the bullies out and put the responsibility back onto the parents when it belongs. Everything changed when we were not allowed to hang a boot in some kids ar se anymore.

 

[awsum140]

The big problem is, at least to me anyway, that social media comes into play today. For all the "advantages" of "being connected" are the negatives worth it?

I saw an interview with an "expert" who said we have to watch social media profiles for signs of problems. Exactly how that would be done, who would do it and who, better still, would be the arbiter was not mentioned. More feel good stuff to show "we're doing something" even if the root problem is totally ignored. Schools should be somewhere down the chain of responsibility with parents being at the absolute top.

 

[CMD-Ky]

Don't know whether to agree, like, be optimistic or what. I do know for sure that I am glad that I do not have to grow up today.

Trying not to listen too much to the reports on the Texas school shooting, I did hear them say the kid told police he didn't shoot anyone he liked. Myself, having been a kid that was picked on when I was transferred to a new school and having a granddaughter that was the target of some mean little..... "girls" at school a couple years ago I can't help but think, if they dig into it I'll bet they will find this kid was also target of school bullies. It's a real problem for kids and the schools don't want to deal with it. The solution the school came up with for my granddaughter was to separate her from the rest of the kids, they assigned a teacher to walker her from class to class and at lunch time they had her eat lunch in an empty class room with teacher watching over her. The result, the kid was even more depressed and the other kids all thought it was funny. The principle would not punish any of the kids, he refused to discuss with my daughter any actions he was taking against the other kids, said it was a violation of their rights of privacy. This kids were texting my granddaughter, "why don't you just kill yourself" My daughter reported it to the state police, I was there when the officer came, he saw the text messages, he said all they could do was contact the school and ask them to take action. I asked the officer if he could just go to the parents homes and talk to them, let these kids see the police showing up at their house, he told me he couldn't because no crime had been committed. My granddaughter had to ride it out, eventually these kids put their focus on someone else and finally left her alone, but nothing was ever done by the school or the police. Well the school did do one thing, they let a group of kids come up with fliers on stopping bulling and post them in the halls at school, the school still has no anti-bulling polices. And we wonder why little Johnny shoots up a school....

 

[SlickWilly]

Yeah, parents need to be parents, not the kid's best friend. If you really love your kids, let them be kids but be tough on them, set rules and guidelines and enforce them strictly. Also know what your kids are doing, who they are with and where they are at all times, check up on them so they know they can't get away with crap, that includes spying on their activities online and on cell phones, kids don't need full access to them anyways. Go outside, play outdoors, that's what Mom and Dad use to say to us.

 

[Steamer861]

Yeah every kid has been picked on, it's different when a group of kids target another and take it to another level for months on end.

You know we don't realize it, as kids it's normal, or was when we were kids to pick on the out casts.
When we were kids, I had a cousin a bit of an out cast
We picked on him relentlessly! I know it's not nice but we were kids.
I hadn't seem thin in many years, till his Dads funeral.
The first thing he said to me, was how we picked on him as a kid!
Recounting some not so nice thing we had done to him
Now As an adult I realize we scared him Badly A little to late to apologize
Maybe as parents it should be our job to try & stop the bullying!

 

[SlickWilly]

Problem is we have adults that do the same thing, there's a group of them here in this village, saw the same thing in the last town we lived in, guess every town has them. Town gossipers, can't wait to swap stories about what the neighbors are up to, like a bunch of old ladies after church service, seen that as a kid too. How do you think their kids behave when they see their parents doing it. And I agree, social media has made it worse, so easy to rap away on the keyboard, people say things online they would never say if they were standing eye to eye to someone.

Ah well, back to vaping.

 

[TrollDragon]

Just one of today's carry.

The LE86 squonking on the Luxotic, it's a nice little RSA with a dual 0.2Ω NiCr build.

 

[SlickWilly]

My everyday carry, I never leave home without it.

 

[tiburonfirst]

hmpf!

btw - anybody here running ublock on ff? i no longer can toggle between off and on - this is what i get

The file at moz-extension://dc147978-d4dd-4849-bde3-695837624440/popup.html is not readable.

It may have been removed, moved, or file permissions may be preventing access.

there was an ff update recently but i'm not sure if that's when it started since i turn it off only occasionally

 

[awsum140]

I'm running ublock with no problems and the latest version of FF, updated the other day...60.0.1

 

[tiburonfirst]

strange

 

[awsum140]

Maybe try re-installing ublock? Sounds like some kind of corruption somewhere in FF. A re-install MAY help.

 

[tiburonfirst]

might have no choice but to try that

 

[Alexander Mundy]

Trying not to listen too much to the reports on the Texas school shooting, I did hear them say the kid told police he didn't shoot anyone he liked. Myself, having been a kid that was picked on when I was transferred to a new school and having a granddaughter that was the target of some mean little..... "girls" at school a couple years ago I can't help but think, if they dig into it I'll bet they will find this kid was also target of school bullies. It's a real problem for kids and the schools don't want to deal with it. The solution the school came up with for my granddaughter was to separate her from the rest of the kids, they assigned a teacher to walker her from class to class and at lunch time they had her eat lunch in an empty class room with teacher watching over her. The result, the kid was even more depressed and the other kids all thought it was funny. The principle would not punish any of the kids, he refused to discuss with my daughter any actions he was taking against the other kids, said it was a violation of their rights of privacy. This kids were texting my granddaughter, "why don't you just kill yourself" My daughter reported it to the state police, I was there when the officer came, he saw the text messages, he said all they could do was contact the school and ask them to take action. I asked the officer if he could just go to the parents homes and talk to them, let these kids see the police showing up at their house, he told me he couldn't because no crime had been committed. My granddaughter had to ride it out, eventually these kids put their focus on someone else and finally left her alone, but nothing was ever done by the school or the police. Well the school did do one thing, they let a group of kids come up with fliers on stopping bulling and post them in the halls at school, the school still has no anti-bulling polices. And we wonder why little Johnny shoots up a school....

We kids had our fights and settled things without weapons. Bringing a weapon to a disagreement would have got someone branded a coward. Went home one day roughed up and my Father asked what happened. I told him I crashed my bike. He asked me what the other bike looked like.

 

[cigatron]

Growing up I was hyperactive and due to my Ritalin prescription underdeveloped for my age. I got bullied and got in fights every 2 yrs on average because that's how often we moved. After each fight no more bullying, didn't matter whether I won or lost because they knew I'd fight back. When I came home all banged up all Dad wanted to know was whether or not I started it. The answer was always "No". He knew what I was going through at new schools. You know, he apologized many years later about moving the family around so much. I told him not to worry about it. He did what he had to do to make life better for our family.
I shared my childhood stories with my son so he knew I would never punish him for defending himself, even if he got suspended from school for a few days. Fortunately he never tested me on that promise.

 

[SlickWilly]

Growing up I was hyperactive and due to my Ritalin prescription underdeveloped for my age. I got bullied and got in fights every 2 yrs on average because that's how often we moved. After each fight no more bullying, didn't matter whether I won or lost because they knew I'd fight back. When I came home all banged up all Dad wanted to know was whether or not I started it. The answer was always "No". He knew what I was going through at new schools. You know, he apologized many years later about moving the family around so much. I told him not to worry about it. He did what he had to do to make life better for our family.
I shared my childhood stories with my son so he knew I would never punish him for defending himself, even if he got suspended from school for a few days. Fortunately he never tested me on that promise.

And you did what you had to do, and it was the right thing. If you don't stand up for yourself in those situations when it's repeated bullying and let them know you won't take it, it just gets worse. If it's a random one time run in I'd just walk away, a fight isn't worth it over a stupid argument. I hated fighting and would avoid it at all cost but there are times you have to, I wasn't in many fights and I only "won" one. I wasn't a thin wimpy kid, I was stocky and close to being over weight, I pulled more punches then not because I was always afraid of really hurting someone and that I couldn't live with. When I was a kid I would have dreams of being in a fight, in my dreams when I swung my punches would never connect, it took me some time to realize it was because deep down inside I really didn't want to hurt someone.

Although I've carried a firearm for protection most of my life I've also always feared having to use it. I've been carrying for so long now it's just second nature, when I leave the house my check list of things to take are my wallet, cell phone, watch, a pair of mods and my handgun. But I hope I'm never in a situation where I'm faced with having to use it because I'm afraid I may have a hard time pulling the trigger, and may wait to long.... That said, I rather have it with me then not. If I ever have to defend someone else I think there would be a lot less hesitation then if I was defending myself. But the thought of having to live with the fact I had to shoot someone in defense, be it a lethal shot or not, is not something I ever want to face.

 

[tiburonfirst]

 

[dwcraig1]

 

[BillW50]

Just one of today's carry.

The LE86 squonking on the Luxotic, it's a nice little RSA with a dual 0.2Ω NiCr build.

You know since I started squonking, nothing else taste very good anymore.