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Yeah, that's the one, DW. The problem is that a 2x700 sled doesn't have side walls on the long side. That leaves the bottom and top without any real support against the force of the springs. Something has to give and the plastic gave out in mine. Given the internal size of the case and the width of the batteries I can see why. I may just leave it in place and install a custom "wedge" on the top and bottom ends.

In terms of contact area versus current draw, with the dual battery setup, parallel batteries, the current is, technically, halved for each battery. That reduces voltage drop by half at each battery. If the spirit moves me, I'll throw a DVM on it while firing and see what that shows. I don't expect anything significant, though, based on the performance of the mod.

Mike, the locals came at 11PM because it was convenient for them, gave the night shift something to do, and they know you'll be home and discombobulated when they show up at that hour. A tactical advantage. By the way, there is a little thing called the "5th Amendment" and it is always VERY prudent to keep that in mind whenever dealing with any form of law enforcement.
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. If the spirit moves me, I'll throw a DVM on it while firing and see what that shows. I don't expect anything significant, though, based on the performance of the mod.

I wouldn't expect there to be much drop with those contacts either. Also, it's difficult to measure, the battery sags under load and then recovers some voltage once the fire button is released. The only way I've found to measure voltage drop in a mod is to use two meters simultaneously. Even then, how do you physically probe the battery terminals separately from the battery contacts?
 

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OMG! Who is going to pay all most $100! for a Pod Mod & 2 Spare pods?
$12.99 for 2 pods?
IMO in this price range, it's going to be a tough Sell! There are so many options for some one willing to spend $100 on a starter kit.
It's a nice looking little Pod Mod & a DNA chip is a bonus :) But OMG $$$$

The competition is in a whole different price range! $27.95 Authentic Aspire Nautilus AIO 1000mAh Pod System Starter Kit (Standard Edition) - 4.5ml / 1.8ohm at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
They use "Nautilus" coils, witch have a good reputation & are reasonably priced!
Well it seems the price of the Orion and pods isn't as bad as you thought. As take Eciggity's price with 10% off discount (and Eciggity isn't known for the lowest price, but they do have great customer service), the Orion costs about 59 bucks and each pod comes to $3.15 each. Now add Lost Vape's claim that Replay extends the life of the pod makes it sound pretty competitive to me. :)
 

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I got screwed over once by the Sheriff Dept, if it was me Mike, now that they have the scale I would clam up and not say a word to them if they come to you again, I'd tell them "talk to my lawyer" and I'd have one lined up. From here forward any communication from them will be for one reason and that would be to try and get something on you. They have the scale, there is no reason for them to contact you again. It wouldn't surprise me for the police to look at that scale and wonder if you were using it for something illegal, I know that's ridiculous but that's how some of them think.

The Sheriff Dept tried to jam me up and charge me with stolen property, I hired a guy to replace my roof, gave him half down. He had the shingles delivered and they were not the good shingles I said I wanted, first heads up there was going to be a problem, then things kept going down hill, in two weeks I got almost no work done and twice had rain water pouring inside the house where they didn't cover where they removed part of the roof so I fired the guy. The next morning the Sheriff called and told me I had to give the materials back to that guy, I told him no, I have a receipt and contract that states half down was for the materials so they belong to me. They showed up here with the guy and threaten to arrest me if I did let him take them so I did. The next morning I called a lawyer and went to the head Sheriff, showed him the paper work and ask him why his officer got involved in a civil matter and told him my next stop was to a lawyer, he apologized and asked what he could do, I told him flat out, as far as I'm concerned this dept owes me for the materials I lost. 24 hours later I got a call from the lawyer saying he had a check in his hand from the county for the cost of the materials. The lawyer also told me, you got lucky, you got lucky they didn't arrested you and you got lucky you got your money back, next time call a lawyer first and NEVER talk to the police!

I also sued that roofer in small claims, was award max $5K but never saw a penny of it, he moved away but I was satisfied that there is a judgement out on him for the $5K that will always follow him.
I have chosen to just let it go. The $500, and potential wasted hours of fighting over it, just isnt worth the stress.

If contacted again by the authorities over this matter I will become a deaf/mute. I have plenty enough of a paper trail to prove that I did not knowingly do anything illegal. I have nothing more to say unless served with a subpoena, in which case I will have an attorney speak for me.
 

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I have chosen to just let it go. The $500, and potential wasted hours of fighting over it, just isnt worth the stress.

If contacted again by the authorities over this matter I will become a deaf/mute. I have plenty enough of a paper trail to prove that I did not knowingly do anything illegal. I have nothing more to say unless served with a subpoena, in which case I will have an attorney speak for me.

I know it sucks, when the roof was finally finished by another contractor I lost about $3200 because of that roofer. Actually more then that because of the water damage inside the house I had to clean up and repair and I lost time away from my business, I turned down some assignments from insurance companies to take time to try recover money from him. It was satisfying to see him try to defend himself to the judge and win the case but I knew in the back of my mind I'd likely never seen a dime. I also discovered he had no business lic and no insurance, I checked with the county and he didn't even have a DBA, I brought that up to the head Sheriff and he charged the guy for doing business without a lic. So it back fired on him to go to the Sheriff just to take the roofing materials back. I lost money but I made the guy pay a price for screwing me over, I'd rather have my money LoL.

Oh yeah, I also found his cell phone in my shop, he dropped it when he was loading the roofing. I waited until everything was over then I called his buddy who had been here helping him and gave him a message to send to him. When his buddy answered he said, "Hey Steve, You found your phone?" Nope, it's not Steve, I found it, tell Steve this for me and tell him I'm now tossing his phone in the river. :)
 

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Orion went live on Lost Vape's website. Maybe today is the day of release. :)
Too late. Leaving for Europe on Saturday. A pair of them with some high-test juice would have made ideal travel mods, I think, by avoiding the need to bring an external charger and much of the other "kit" I've taken on previous trips like this.

Picked up a couple of the original Aspire Breeze mods instead. They were $15 at the local B&M.
 

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I have chosen to just let it go. The $500, and potential wasted hours of fighting over it, just isnt worth the stress.
Take some solace in the fact that if they've traced it to you, they must have already busted the some or all of the perps involved in the theft and sale?
 

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I have chosen to just let it go. The $500, and potential wasted hours of fighting over it, just isnt worth the stress.

If contacted again by the authorities over this matter I will become a deaf/mute. I have plenty enough of a paper trail to prove that I did not knowingly do anything illegal. I have nothing more to say unless served with a subpoena, in which case I will have an attorney speak for me.

It's a Bad situation :(
Maybe one "Hail Mary" attempt at not losing your investment, would be contact the California Cop & just inquire, if it's used as evidence? What happens to it after the fact?

I would explain that through no fault of your's, you are out a substantial amount of $!
Maybe? They will be sympathetic & return it to you after the fact?

Unlikely, But maybe worth a try?
 

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I wonder how anybody could say hey that is mine and call the cops and they come and take it away? Don't they have to show proof it is theirs or something? And they may have collected the insurance money to boot.
If an insurance company has already made the scale's original owner whole, guess who now has a rightful claim of ownership on it? Yep. The insurance company.
 

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If an insurance company has already made the scale's original owner whole, guess who now has a rightful claim of ownership on it? Yep. The insurance company.

It's unlikely an insurance company is going around picking up crumbs.
It's more likely, items like this will just be auctioned off, after the fact?
 

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I wouldn't expect there to be much drop with those contacts either. Also, it's difficult to measure, the battery sags under load and then recovers some voltage once the fire button is released. The only way I've found to measure voltage drop in a mod is to use two meters simultaneously. Even then, how do you physically probe the battery terminals separately from the battery contacts?
Escribe does a fine job of indicating if there is a problem. Over yonder I've seen a lot of discussion about the B oxer with that style of contacts (series though). They were hitting cell soft cutoff way early.
 

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It's a Bad situation :(
Maybe one "Hail Mary" attempt at not losing your investment, would be contact the California Cop & just inquire, if it's used as evidence? What happens to it after the fact?

I would explain that through no fault of your's, you are out a substantial amount of $!
Maybe? They will be sympathetic & return it to you after the fact?

Unlikely, But maybe worth a try?

Might not be a bad idea but I'd have a lawyer make the call or at least do it by a letter, I personally wouldn't talk to them again either in person or on the phone. Again, that's "me". Trying to appeal to someone's good nature and common sense seems logical I know, just remember who it is your talking to.....
 

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Might not be a bad idea but I'd have a lawyer make the call or at least do it by a letter, I personally wouldn't talk to them again either in person or on the phone. Again, that's "me". Trying to appeal to someone's good nature and common sense seems logical I know, just remember who it is your talking to.....


I wouldn't be afraid to send the Email. After All Mike fully Cooperated.
The California Cop needed this evidence, Mike could have just been a Dick! & denied every thing or made an excuse why he no longer was in posetion.
 

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Too late. Leaving for Europe on Saturday. A pair of them with some high-test juice would have made ideal travel mods, I think, by avoiding the need to bring an external charger and much of the other "kit" I've taken on previous trips like this. Picked up a couple of the original Aspire Breeze mods instead. They were $15 at the local B&M.
Well if Eciggity really has the pods (I've never known them to lie yet), I'll most likely have the pods that I ordered early this morning, this coming Saturday.

Although I haven't seen anybody have the Orion for sale yet. I dunno know how long you are going to be gone, but I fulled expect that the supply of Orions and pods will go very quickly. Even if LV produced 10k worth of pods, I think that would only last less than a week before all of them would be gone. Then everyone would have to wait a month or two (and only if they even bothered) to do another production run. :(
 

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I wouldn't be afraid to send the Email. After All Mike fully Cooperated.
The California Cop needed this evidence, Mike could have just been a Dick! & denied every thing or made an excuse why he no longer was in posetion.

Well it's just me, if I sent an email it would be from a new yahoo or some other account I made just for that and I'd send it from a free wifi location, not from my home. Personally, I'd just have a lawyer make a call, it also sends the message, Mike has retained a lawyer....
 

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Well if someone did goof at Eciggity, I'll be getting either 11 pods or 22 of them. Either or I should have enough for awhile. Although I can't find any Orions for sale yet. And once they start showing up, hopefully they don't sell out in like the first 30 seconds. Because then I will have pods and no Orion. :lol:
 

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I have chosen to just let it go. The $500, and potential wasted hours of fighting over it, just isnt worth the stress.

If contacted again by the authorities over this matter I will become a deaf/mute. I have plenty enough of a paper trail to prove that I did not knowingly do anything illegal. I have nothing more to say unless served with a subpoena, in which case I will have an attorney speak for me.
That reminds me of some of my purchases online. I bought a new laptop for 1k back in Aug 2001 on eBay. It was cheaper than what everyone else was selling it for. A few weeks went by and nothing happened. So I contacted them through eBay. After a few inquires they finally said: "Sorry, but my mom needed the money for her surgery." and that was about it. No eBay protection or anything back then and I figured I would have to contact the FBI since they were in another state. Then 9/11 happened and figured everyone was too busy and nothing would happen anyway. So I didn't do anything about it. :(
 

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That just plain, old, stinks Bill. Out "one large" and no support from the famous "FLeaBay". I rarely even look there now after being a regular almost from when they started. They had a good concept and have turned it into junk.
 

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It's a Bad situation :(
Maybe one "Hail Mary" attempt at not losing your investment, would be contact the California Cop & just inquire, if it's used as evidence? What happens to it after the fact?

I would explain that through no fault of your's, you are out a substantial amount of $!
Maybe? They will be sympathetic & return it to you after the fact?

Unlikely, But maybe worth a try?
Considering the guy was not all sympathetic about sending cops to my door (with no warning) at 11:30pm , AFTER I had already cooperated fully, I dont expect any sympathy from him now.
 

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