Ex Smoker - should I start vaping?

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Renolizzie

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I think it is worth a try. You certainly don't want to go back to smoking. Long road trips are dreary without the ciggies to break up the miles. vaping is such a time filler:) Zero nic is definitely worth a try. There are some UK vendors, I think. If you go to the UK sub forum, they will know more.
 

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As a truck driver I have to say, that for me at least, vaping has not only kept me off the cigs it has helped me cut down on those snacks as well. The key for me is a great tasting vape(s).
As a driver you know Your Milage May Vary, this is a post from another driver and should be treated as such. LOL
 
Vaping is an alternative that works to get you away from tobacco, and hopefully you will use it as a cessation device to get off nicotine but thats not its primary purpose. Personally and professionally I am rapidly against the idea of a non smoker taking up vaping. Because of the very real and potent psychological aspects of being addicted to tobacco smoking and in part to nicotine vaping "could" be a slippery slope.

12 years off cigarettes and you want to go through the physical mechanics of smoking? Why? You have managed to not have to do this for 12 years so why pick up that part of the addiction again? And to be honest although all that parts we "know" about in vaping have what we think are few risks (ignoring the nicotine at the moment) we just don't know 100% that there is not something else there. If you were a smoker right now I would be saying 'pick up that PV right now and walk away from the tobacco but do you really want something that will mechanically and/or psychologically addict you again and 'might' turn out to have further risks down the line. For a smoker that is still way better than 4000 chemicals (some known others not) and 60 known carcinogens, as well as tar and other particulates and even if 2 years from now they find out that inhaling food grade flavoring has a risk, even that with the 2 risks with nicotine its still a whole lot better than tobacco.

BUT you, one of the very lucky one have gotten away from it. Stay away from it. While you may do it with 0mg at least in the beginning the fact that there could be a issue with vaping that shows up at a later point just is not worth it. Besides, even if PG/VG bit of flavoring is pretty innocuous and is well know in relation to the body - its is based on ingestion not inhalation.

We also don't know the 'slippery slope' side of things. There has never been much question in the past which cam first - the nicotine addiction or the oral fixation or the mechanical addition but we do know they are tightly interwoven and that one can drive you bad to the other. With a ex-smoker there is a high probability that doing any part of the addictive pattern will cause you to go back into other. Just the idea of being able to pick up an e-cig to replace your food to mouth habit gives me a good idea that oral fixation was a big deal in your smoking habit. There is a good possibility that doing all the steps (holding to mouth, inhaling, exhaling, with the social aspect, new toy so to speak) it would not be but a quick hop for your brain to convince you to try nicotine. All it takes is something to happen like running on of juice on a trip and depending on what a tobacco store has, and oops they don't have 0mg. Your predisposition is not going to tell you to just stick it in the glovebox and walk away; you could very well find yourself thinking nice bottle of 6mg nicotine won't be a big deal. Then you're no longer a recovering or ex-nicotine addict.

There is already anecdotal evidence of cases where people have taken up vaping with 0 mgs never having smoked for varies reason "hubby vapes and I want to be involved with what he does", "I wanted the same extra breaks my smoking co-workers get", "they have parties and only vapers can go to", "my girlfriends are all vapers", "my mother bought me an ego so I could learn to vape" and all are or were 0mg nicotine users and proud of it. That's until something stranger than the original vaping excuse convinced them to use nicotine just one time. As an ex-smoker you know what a nicotine addiction is and how insidious that can be.

In the examples above one of them are not from reports but a direct experience in my life. The woman wanted to start vaping because hubby did it to stop smoking. He got really really involved in it wit noddin and such - went to users groups, meet, conventions, had all sorts of vaping social things going on. Wife was left out. Although invited she felt anxious about 'butting' in when she was a non vaper but most if not all her social life existed around his and with his new interest she was basically left at home. Lots of ways to deal with something like this - so no real quick fix for the long term but a few that would be pretty fast, but in her mind vaping was an immediate answer. She could buy a starter kit today and be the belle of the vaping world tomorrow. EVERYONE, including all her husband vaping contact, the forum they were on, everywhere told her not to do it, don't start but as we know people often don't take advice when its not what they want to here. It was great for a while, probably better than some of the more realistic things she should have tried and she was very proud of her accomplishment and it worked out for her when everyone had been so negative, Well you be the judge of how well it worked out. It was interesting to watch as a previously unknown oral fixation came out, as did a propensity for obsessive behavior (thats a blog in itself). So she was happy as pie and everyone else was shaking their heads and a few were waiting (t turns out including hubby) for the next shoe to drop. Skip ahead to a state wide vapers meeting held on the other side of the state, in sort of a remote area at a camping retreat. Skip ahead day 2 of meeting at the big party and oops she thought she had brough that extra bottle of 0 mg e-juice because she was halfway through the one she had in her purse... and no. (If you a vaper the moto a backup for a backup also means your e-juice). So she wandered the other members looking for someone with 0 mg e-juice, Sadly but not had to understand no one had 0mg nicotine e-juice of any flavor. Hubby suggested she just put away the PV and not worry about it. Well that she was not about to do and asked for his e-juice (he used like 24mg strength) and he absolutely refused which lead to an argument and him leaving and going back to their cabin leaving her with all the meet members - she was upset over the argument especially publically, shaking, crying and had everyone' attention. She started asking for e-juice from anyone.. she had to vape to calm down (sounds familiar). Everyone either said no she did not want to do that, or was very reluctant and that just upset her worse. Finally someone resurrected some old 6mg e-juice on the bad idea that 6mg would not do much just this one time, and of course she thought the same thing. She is now and has been for better part of a year using 18 mg of nicotine in her e-juice,

Yes, I know she is an adult and its legal and no one has the right to tell her know. But they had info she did not - direct knowledge of just how fast nicotine can grab hold and how hard it is to let go and the position she was in where her brain could make her ignore the risk would never have developed if she had not started vaping to fix other things.

This is not a new social craze... basically how we got into decade of smoking being okay because everyone was doing it. Its not the newest cool trend, etc. Its not a diet device or whatever. Its not a palliative to boredom. There are many other things that can do that for you. You just need to find them.

I don't mean to sound cruel because anyone coming to this forums sees the great time everyone is having here and wants to be part of it. And to those of you members who want to accuse me of driving a new member away - I am not trying to do - I actually think that there is a very good reason for ex-smokers and non-smokers to be involved her, if nothing more than they are part of the voting public that need the information and education that is here to get it out in the mainstream.

And there are lots of things that an ex or non-smoker can get involved in here - with the political aspect, working with casaa or the ECF forum itself if they need help from technical people smoker or non; if they want hands on activities maybe get involved in building new mods, answering questions on how to figure out an ohm from a hole in the wall before someone blows up their battery and half the bathroom (if they are technically inclined that way). Lots of way to be with the forum without vaping I would think. Just reading and answering people with links or "I read" answers even if they don't have first hand knowledge can be helpful, Having ex-smokers around as support for those working down to 0 mg nicotine would be great.

The only reason I would say that there would be for recovered smoker at the 12 year mark for vaping would be if 1) they had already smoked a cigarette in the past 48 hours (chances are they are now no longer and ex-smoker) and so vaping is the better choice when it comes to that next ciggy if you can't make it through 24 more hours without slipping again. Oer that you are really unable to cope with day to day activities because you cannot smoke - then go ahead and start vaping because you have to function in life.

The eating can be an issue but vaping is not the solution. You have the same oral fixation 3/4 of america has which causes all sorts of issue but there are other ways to go from stocking only fruits and veggies, lo cal snacks, drinking a great deal more fluid (hard on a trucker that can't make every pit stop - I understand). Its really better to work on the getting rid of the need for the hand mouth thing then reinforcing it with vaping. The fact that you're off the nicotine one of the greatest helps for oral fixation snackers and a way to get rid of that monkey is often hypnosis.

But anyway you go I really can't be forceful enough it trying to convince you to not go back to old habits and vaping, an alternative to smoking, is an old habit even if the chemical is not there.

Now if you're saying that the snaking is only just holding off a new smoking habit (but not because you see that as a way to keep weight off) then perhaps. with a lot of thought built into and a lot of safety valves so you don't get maneuvered back to nicotine - to keep you off cigs, then it maybe the way to go.
 
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OK, looks like I'm going to give it a go, if I can't get on with it the wife can have it as an upgrade :)

Thinking of going for something like this http://www.vapeescape.co.uk/joyetech-ego-c-1000mah~313

or this http://www.vapeescape.co.uk/the-ve-riva-1100-deluxe-kit~151

Trouble is for a novice theres so many different kits/options to choose from. I dont want to spend money now only to find I want something better in a few weeks and have to start from scratch again.

Then all I need is a good source for tasty 0nic juices.
 
One of the hardest things for me when trying (numerous times) to quit smoking was the boredom of being stuck in traffic and not having anything for my idle hands to do.
I am a service engineer and spend a lot of time on the road, covering sometimes 3 or 4000 miles a month, so I'm behind the wheel for a large chunk of my life!
I finally beat the tobacco and started vaping back in November last year.
Not one cigarette has touched my lips since then and I can certainly recommend it, however as others have also advised, use zero nic juice!
 
OK, looks like I'm going to give it a go, if I can't get on with it the wife can have it as an upgrade :)

Thinking of going for something like this Joyetech eGo-C 1000mah £59.99 - Deluxe Vaping Kits - Joyetech eGo-C Electronic Cigarettes | Vaping Devices | Accessories | E-Liquid

or this The VE Riva 1100 Deluxe Kit £34.95 - Deluxe Vaping Kits - Riva 1100 Kit Electronic Cigarettes | Vaping Devices | Accessories | E-Liquid

Trouble is for a novice theres so many different kits/options to choose from. I dont want to spend money now only to find I want something better in a few weeks and have to start from scratch again.

Then all I need is a good source for tasty 0nic juices.

I really wish that you would take more time with this and think on it a while, get input from more people. Its a decision with a lot of possibly far reaching consequences some of which you might not have as much luck as you did 12 years ago. Sorry I can't bring myself to assist you with e-juice recommendations.
 

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There are far worse things u could do---like start smoking cigarettes again, so i don't see any harm in vaping if that is what u want to do. You could start out with SI minis-automatic 78s. They have special rubber tips you can put on to them and hang them from your mouth like a analog cig while u r driving. Theres also a Zeus ecig at Vapor for life that looks like a cigar. It also has a rubber tip designed to hang from your mouth while u use your hands, and it is getting great reviews right now! Just keep the nic to 0 and you will not need to feel guilty! As far as I know, vaping isn't illegal, but that doesn't mean I try to vape in places where smoking is prohibited---I certainly don't want to cause damage to the vaping community before they ever get both feet on the ground if u know what I mean! Have fun, and enjoy your vape!!!
 
OK, looks like I'm going to give it a go, if I can't get on with it the wife can have it as an upgrade :)

Thinking of going for something like this Joyetech eGo-C 1000mah £59.99 - Deluxe Vaping Kits - Joyetech eGo-C Electronic Cigarettes | Vaping Devices | Accessories | E-Liquid

or this The VE Riva 1100 Deluxe Kit £34.95 - Deluxe Vaping Kits - Riva 1100 Kit Electronic Cigarettes | Vaping Devices | Accessories | E-Liquid

Trouble is for a novice theres so many different kits/options to choose from. I dont want to spend money now only to find I want something better in a few weeks and have to start from scratch again.

Then all I need is a good source for tasty 0nic juices.

I would recommend paying a bit more and get a good Ego type battery (900mAh or 1100mAh) with a Vivi Mini Nova.
Steer clear of cheapo CE4 / CE5 etc types, which are good but have a habit of leaking and weeping juice when drawing on them.
With so much inferior grade kit coming in now from China, most vendors of the CE4/5/6 clearomizers are selling stuff that isn't as good as it used to be, hence my suggestion of the Vivi Nova or Mini Nova.

As for juice, do a search for misteliquid. They are a UK based supplier and are pretty good.
 

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We also don't know the 'slippery slope' side of things. There has never been much question in the past which cam first - the nicotine addiction or the oral fixation or the mechanical addition but we do know they are tightly interwoven and that one can drive you bad to the other. With a ex-smoker there is a high probability that doing any part of the addictive pattern will cause you to go back into other. Just the idea of being able to pick up an e-cig to replace your food to mouth habit gives me a good idea that oral fixation was a big deal in your smoking habit. There is a good possibility that doing all the steps (holding to mouth, inhaling, exhaling, with the social aspect, new toy so to speak) it would not be but a quick hop for your brain to convince you to try nicotine. All it takes is something to happen like running on of juice on a trip and depending on what a tobacco store has, and oops they don't have 0mg. Your predisposition is not going to tell you to just stick it in the glovebox and walk away; you could very well find yourself thinking nice bottle of 6mg nicotine won't be a big deal. Then you're no longer a recovering or ex-nicotine addict.

Generally, I would agree with you. But here I have to point out the possibility the OP is already on a "slippery slope". From the story told, the "oral" aspects are important to the OP and that could be a sign that a "slip" is likely. I know the ritual and habit of it all is a big part of it for myself. If not, nicotine gum would have worked better for me. The gum worked very well for me but I always went back eventually. I could get the nicotine but not all the other things. And eating didn't "do it" for me. Whatever "fixations" I have, that's not one. Eating doesn't fill the same... need? Whatever it is.

Since the OP escaped nicotine addiction, it'd be better if they didn't have any "substitute". But clearly they do. That seems, to me, to be rather like swapping habits. Replacing one with the other. And you can swap both ways. Not to mention, the OP can't change the situation much at all. That is, smoking while driving on long "hauls" was probably a big part of it all. And the OP still has to drive long hauls or not get paid.

I'd have to wonder if the risk of going from snacking to smoking isn't greater than the risk of jumping from 0 nic to nicotine juices. It's something only the OP can answer for themselves. But I'd rather see an ex-smoker pick up vaping rather than pick up cigarettes. If that's the choice, well, vaping is the better answer.

Whether or not that's the choice in this case... only the OP can know for sure...
 
I find vaping very satisfying. Sometimes after dinner instead of reaching for some ice cream or cake for desert I just load a tank up with a sweet delicious flavor and it helps out my sweet tooth a lot. I loved to smoke while driving I think out of boredom and I do find I vape more on the road im an hvac service tech so im driving from call to call all day and vaping is very easy to do and drive if you use tanks. Some days a 3ml tank will last me all day. One of my fav desert flavors is almond joyee from apollo ecigs. The dark liquid tends to clog up coils faster but the flavor is so worth it to me.
 

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I understand your thinking, but you can't paint everyone with the same brush. I am an ex-smoker who had quit almost 4 years before finding vaping as a solution to the cravings. If you've never quit cold-turkey before, you have no idea how those cravings can haunt you. For me, they NEVER went away. It wasn't the nicotine, as that had been out of my system long before. It was the hand to mouth habit and the psychosomatic crutch, plain and simple. You say that we got away ... we didn't. If we did, why would we be on this forum? Simple. We miss smoking.

0mg vaping has been the solution for me. There is no slippery slope. Those of us who ARE off the nicotine don't WANT the throat hit from the nic and don't really care about the vapor production. We want the ACT and the satisfaction of the act, without the nasty taste, sore throat, smell, or fear that this cigarette is going to be "the one" that starts the cancer cells growing. Yet vaping isn't exactly like smoking in that we don't NEED that vape that minute. If we run out of 0mg juice, we're like, "Darn. I'll have to order some." Or if desperate for the habit, run into any Walgreens, Walmart, or other drug store, grab some vegetable glycerine and vape the unflavored VG. That's the bonus of 0mg vaping ... we don't need the nic so we have options.

Recently, I ordered some 0mg samplers from Alice in Vapeland. They mistakenly grabbed a 6mg sampler of one of the flavors. I didn't notice until I dripped it into my atty. I was like, "Wow that tastes like crap! And hurts my throat! Yuck!" I knew immediately what was wrong. I looked at the little bottle and sure enough, there was nic in it. I passed that along to a friend, emailed AiV, and they sent me a replacement sample. I would rather wait for that 0mg sample to test the flavor than vape that 6mg instantly. The nicotine tastes like complete crap once it's out of your system for any length of time. I am not at all tempted by nicotine.

Vaping is an alternative that works to get you away from tobacco, and hopefully you will use it as a cessation device to get off nicotine but thats not its primary purpose. Personally and professionally I am rapidly against the idea of a non smoker taking up vaping. Because of the very real and potent psychological aspects of being addicted to tobacco smoking and in part to nicotine vaping "could" be a slippery slope.

12 years off cigarettes and you want to go through the physical mechanics of smoking? Why? You have managed to not have to do this for 12 years so why pick up that part of the addiction again? And to be honest although all that parts we "know" about in vaping have what we think are few risks (ignoring the nicotine at the moment) we just don't know 100% that there is not something else there. If you were a smoker right now I would be saying 'pick up that PV right now and walk away from the tobacco but do you really want something that will mechanically and/or psychologically addict you again and 'might' turn out to have further risks down the line. For a smoker that is still way better than 4000 chemicals (some known others not) and 60 known carcinogens, as well as tar and other particulates and even if 2 years from now they find out that inhaling food grade flavoring has a risk, even that with the 2 risks with nicotine its still a whole lot better than tobacco.

BUT you, one of the very lucky one have gotten away from it. Stay away from it. While you may do it with 0mg at least in the beginning the fact that there could be a issue with vaping that shows up at a later point just is not worth it. Besides, even if PG/VG bit of flavoring is pretty innocuous and is well know in relation to the body - its is based on ingestion not inhalation.

We also don't know the 'slippery slope' side of things. There has never been much question in the past which cam first - the nicotine addiction or the oral fixation or the mechanical addition but we do know they are tightly interwoven and that one can drive you bad to the other. With a ex-smoker there is a high probability that doing any part of the addictive pattern will cause you to go back into other. Just the idea of being able to pick up an e-cig to replace your food to mouth habit gives me a good idea that oral fixation was a big deal in your smoking habit. There is a good possibility that doing all the steps (holding to mouth, inhaling, exhaling, with the social aspect, new toy so to speak) it would not be but a quick hop for your brain to convince you to try nicotine. All it takes is something to happen like running on of juice on a trip and depending on what a tobacco store has, and oops they don't have 0mg. Your predisposition is not going to tell you to just stick it in the glovebox and walk away; you could very well find yourself thinking nice bottle of 6mg nicotine won't be a big deal. Then you're no longer a recovering or ex-nicotine addict.

There is already anecdotal evidence of cases where people have taken up vaping with 0 mgs never having smoked for varies reason "hubby vapes and I want to be involved with what he does", "I wanted the same extra breaks my smoking co-workers get", "they have parties and only vapers can go to", "my girlfriends are all vapers", "my mother bought me an ego so I could learn to vape" and all are or were 0mg nicotine users and proud of it. That's until something stranger than the original vaping excuse convinced them to use nicotine just one time. As an ex-smoker you know what a nicotine addiction is and how insidious that can be.

In the examples above one of them are not from reports but a direct experience in my life. The woman wanted to start vaping because hubby did it to stop smoking. He got really really involved in it wit noddin and such - went to users groups, meet, conventions, had all sorts of vaping social things going on. Wife was left out. Although invited she felt anxious about 'butting' in when she was a non vaper but most if not all her social life existed around his and with his new interest she was basically left at home. Lots of ways to deal with something like this - so no real quick fix for the long term but a few that would be pretty fast, but in her mind vaping was an immediate answer. She could buy a starter kit today and be the belle of the vaping world tomorrow. EVERYONE, including all her husband vaping contact, the forum they were on, everywhere told her not to do it, don't start but as we know people often don't take advice when its not what they want to here. It was great for a while, probably better than some of the more realistic things she should have tried and she was very proud of her accomplishment and it worked out for her when everyone had been so negative, Well you be the judge of how well it worked out. It was interesting to watch as a previously unknown oral fixation came out, as did a propensity for obsessive behavior (thats a blog in itself). So she was happy as pie and everyone else was shaking their heads and a few were waiting (t turns out including hubby) for the next shoe to drop. Skip ahead to a state wide vapers meeting held on the other side of the state, in sort of a remote area at a camping retreat. Skip ahead day 2 of meeting at the big party and oops she thought she had brough that extra bottle of 0 mg e-juice because she was halfway through the one she had in her purse... and no. (If you a vaper the moto a backup for a backup also means your e-juice). So she wandered the other members looking for someone with 0 mg e-juice, Sadly but not had to understand no one had 0mg nicotine e-juice of any flavor. Hubby suggested she just put away the PV and not worry about it. Well that she was not about to do and asked for his e-juice (he used like 24mg strength) and he absolutely refused which lead to an argument and him leaving and going back to their cabin leaving her with all the meet members - she was upset over the argument especially publically, shaking, crying and had everyone' attention. She started asking for e-juice from anyone.. she had to vape to calm down (sounds familiar). Everyone either said no she did not want to do that, or was very reluctant and that just upset her worse. Finally someone resurrected some old 6mg e-juice on the bad idea that 6mg would not do much just this one time, and of course she thought the same thing. She is now and has been for better part of a year using 18 mg of nicotine in her e-juice,

Yes, I know she is an adult and its legal and no one has the right to tell her know. But they had info she did not - direct knowledge of just how fast nicotine can grab hold and how hard it is to let go and the position she was in where her brain could make her ignore the risk would never have developed if she had not started vaping to fix other things.

This is not a new social craze... basically how we got into decade of smoking being okay because everyone was doing it. Its not the newest cool trend, etc. Its not a diet device or whatever. Its not a palliative to boredom. There are many other things that can do that for you. You just need to find them.

I don't mean to sound cruel because anyone coming to this forums sees the great time everyone is having here and wants to be part of it. And to those of you members who want to accuse me of driving a new member away - I am not trying to do - I actually think that there is a very good reason for ex-smokers and non-smokers to be involved her, if nothing more than they are part of the voting public that need the information and education that is here to get it out in the mainstream.

And there are lots of things that an ex or non-smoker can get involved in here - with the political aspect, working with casaa or the ECF forum itself if they need help from technical people smoker or non; if they want hands on activities maybe get involved in building new mods, answering questions on how to figure out an ohm from a hole in the wall before someone blows up their battery and half the bathroom (if they are technically inclined that way). Lots of way to be with the forum without vaping I would think. Just reading and answering people with links or "I read" answers even if they don't have first hand knowledge can be helpful, Having ex-smokers around as support for those working down to 0 mg nicotine would be great.

The only reason I would say that there would be for recovered smoker at the 12 year mark for vaping would be if 1) they had already smoked a cigarette in the past 48 hours (chances are they are now no longer and ex-smoker) and so vaping is the better choice when it comes to that next ciggy if you can't make it through 24 more hours without slipping again. Oer that you are really unable to cope with day to day activities because you cannot smoke - then go ahead and start vaping because you have to function in life.

The eating can be an issue but vaping is not the solution. You have the same oral fixation 3/4 of america has which causes all sorts of issue but there are other ways to go from stocking only fruits and veggies, lo cal snacks, drinking a great deal more fluid (hard on a trucker that can't make every pit stop - I understand). Its really better to work on the getting rid of the need for the hand mouth thing then reinforcing it with vaping. The fact that you're off the nicotine one of the greatest helps for oral fixation snackers and a way to get rid of that monkey is often hypnosis.

But anyway you go I really can't be forceful enough it trying to convince you to not go back to old habits and vaping, an alternative to smoking, is an old habit even if the chemical is not there.

Now if you're saying that the snaking is only just holding off a new smoking habit (but not because you see that as a way to keep weight off) then perhaps. with a lot of thought built into and a lot of safety valves so you don't get maneuvered back to nicotine - to keep you off cigs, then it maybe the way to go.
 

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I'm diabetic and often vape zero nic yummy tasting juices mimicking foods I could never safely eat. Also, most who vape as an alternative to smoking do not gain weight like they do quitting without vaping. My advice though is don't inhale. There's no need to as you don't taste with your lungs ;-) and doing so may get you back into wanting the throat hit you did as a smoker... then one thing leads to another as they say. Also, I've been having a lung congestion problem I didn't have during 7 months of vaping and haven't determined yet if its from inhaling a particular flavor or which one if any. Until I'm sure what's causing this I would not be comfortable recommending inhaling as its not even necessary for those vaping for nicotine.

BTW, there are vendors who carry savory juices. I have a pizza one right now but haven't gotten up the nerve to try it yet. The closest I've come to savories is nuts. Right now I'm vaping black walnut and love it.. also pecan. I vape those when I'm tired of sweets. Steeljan on youtube likes bacon juice but I haven't tried it yet.
 
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Thanks... too funny! Hard head that I am, I will no doubt try at some point. Seems he didn't have a problem until exhaling so maybe its not wasted money if all goes well just holding in my mouth... hey, I can dream can't I? But, truly, maybe its one of those flavors created for cooking (taste) and never created for vaping (inhaling.)
 

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I understand your thinking, but you can't paint everyone with the same brush. I am an ex-smoker who had quit almost 4 years before finding vaping as a solution to the cravings. If you've never quit cold-turkey before, you have no idea how those cravings can haunt you. For me, they NEVER went away.

Yeah. I get the willies just thinking about it. I'm pretty sure nicotine is the major part of it for me. Transitioning to vaping was just too easy. And the only other times I managed to stay off cigs any length of time was with the gum. Which I went through like crazy. But it kept The Horrors at bay.

But that part where they claim the cravings will go away? They lie. :)

It wasn't the nicotine, as that had been out of my system long before. It was the hand to mouth habit and the psychosomatic crutch, plain and simple. You say that we got away ... we didn't. If we did, why would we be on this forum? Simple. We miss smoking.

Absolutely. I still do. It's just not terribly strong. It's a kind of... wistful feeling. I don't seem to remember all the bad things. Just how much I liked smoking. Very weird.

0mg vaping has been the solution for me. There is no slippery slope. Those of us who ARE off the nicotine don't WANT the throat hit from the nic and don't really care about the vapor production.

Funny thing. I probably will always want the vapor production myself. It simulates the act of smoking and, for whatever reason, I like smoking.

But, yeah, you're right, there's no "one size fits all". Addiction of any kind is complex. If it were simple, about 50 million people would quit tomorrow...
 
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