If you like ry4 , there are many variants of it out there. When I first stopped smoking cigarettes I used double ry4. It satisfied the craving, even though it didn't taste the same. I started making my own juice within a month, MUCH cheaper, and a lot of fun too. I got a lot of help here, and I have 300 ml of juice I love, spent about $40 to make it. My favorite is Black Jack (Black and Mild) with a little bit of vanilla (adds a little sweetness, rounds the flavor out.) Never could get into the fruit flavors personally. I love coffee, and anything I was going to use to get off cigarettes had to go well with it.