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Oh so i blame you for buying my atties on mej/k
Lol I just grabbed one to try
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Diddo! Cant wait until the next email threat for a lawsuit because of this post
Edit: P.S. i really was trying to abstain myself from saying anything about this thread ... to be honest, i've kind of had enough of the drama ... but after reading Wood's post, i couldnt hold it back anymore.
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Affiliated ? yes ! CNF is my pusher. He gives me the drug so I won't die of a lung cancer.
I know him, I buy from him, but he has been banned from ecf so he has no voice. Why and why and that... ask him.
Heille le p'tit cousin, ici on ne parle que d'intérêt mercantille. Combien ça coûte fumer des cigarettes (cancer sticks) ? Non mais faudrait qu'on se parle, la vie est trop courte et on a au moins un intérêt en commun: la cigarette électronique. Ton père connait mon père et je connais ton père! PM for the rest. Faut qu'on se voeille.
I know him, I buy from him, but he has been banned from ecf so he has no voice. Why and why and that... ask him.
Heille le p'tit cousin, ici on ne parle que d'intérêt mercantille. Combien ça coûte fumer des cigarettes (cancer sticks) ? Non mais faudrait qu'on se parle, la vie est trop courte et on a au moins un intérêt en commun: la cigarette électronique. Ton père connait mon père et je connais ton père! PM for the rest. Faut qu'on se voeille.
From a translator on line.
The small cousin Heille, here we speak only about interest mercantille. How much does it cost smoke cigarettes (cancer sticks)? No but would need that we speak to each other, the life is too short and we have at least an interest in common: the electronic cigarette. Your father knows my father and I know your father! PM for the rest. Needs that we voeille.
The small cousin Heille, here we speak only about interest mercantille. How much does it cost smoke cigarettes (cancer sticks)? No but would need that we speak to each other, the life is too short and we have at least an interest in common: the electronic cigarette. Your father knows my father and I know your father! PM for the rest. Needs that we voeille.
Using the translation from a translator and then re-translating from a translator makes for some lousy reading.
Maybe? Apparently this is my couzin from what they are saying. I'll find out i guess as he/she wants me to PM them to find out. Why they dont just PM me is beyond me...
Correction. Too late ... the account has been banned it seems. Cant PM them.
Oh well ... no family reunion ... if in fact it was a family member.
And if he is reading this, capitalnicfit was banned as a supplier because he wasnt respecting the rules. He is reselling juices from Juicy Clear i believe, possibly drop-shipping, and also has text on his main page about "being the healthy alternative to smoking" or something along those lines. The forum mods dont want this type of supplier on their forums. If you want a list of rules to follow, PM Misty. I did, and the rules are quite clear and simple to respect.
Not to mention the crappy customer service he gives his clients ... i'm sure the mods here dont want someone like that selling his products on here.
Oh well ... no family reunion ... if in fact it was a family member.
And if he is reading this, capitalnicfit was banned as a supplier because he wasnt respecting the rules. He is reselling juices from Juicy Clear i believe, possibly drop-shipping, and also has text on his main page about "being the healthy alternative to smoking" or something along those lines. The forum mods dont want this type of supplier on their forums. If you want a list of rules to follow, PM Misty. I did, and the rules are quite clear and simple to respect.
Not to mention the crappy customer service he gives his clients ... i'm sure the mods here dont want someone like that selling his products on here.
Bro the reason Canada post charges so much is because they turn a profit (like all businesses). USPS has not even broken even in YEARS!
I'm sorry dude but I have to call BS on what you're saying about CNF. His prices might be higher than other places, but that's just capitalism. If you don't like the prices, you're free to shop around however if you were smart about it, you would try contacting the vendor to talk about pricing. After all competition keeps businesses honest.
If you buy a TV and then a couple days later you see it cheaper somewhere else, what do you do? You ask the vendor to price match. Typically those vendors will do that for you. This is commonplace.
Now here's what vendors don't do for you:
They don't attend your stag & doe to help raise money for your wedding.
They don't donate $500 worth of kit as prizes to help raise money for your stag.
The don't hold events for their customers regularly to say thanks and give away more gear.
Shadi at CNF did all of the above, and all I had to do was ask.
His customer service is above and beyond any other supplier I've ever dealt with! When I first started vaping, I ordered from Shadi. He came to our apartment with every flavor he had. Let us try each and every one. Sold me an ego kit and a 510 kit and even gave my fiancé a 510 kit to say thanks.
I don't know what happened in your case, and cannot speak to it, but Shadi is a solid guy and one of the most helpful people I've come to know in my life.
I'm no affiliate, just someone who buys regularly from Shadi and enjoys the service he provides.
I can’t bite my tongue any longer on this one.
The supplier mentioned about is not the only supplier who has been banned from the forum. One of the popular large juice retailers has also been banned.
ECF is not inspecting products and business practices, they are ruling on if a supplier meets their forum rules in the forums.
This doesn’t necessarily make them a bad retailer. ECF has their rules, it is their house. Not every supplier see’s eye to eye with them, nor the other way around. That doesn’t make one right and the other wrong, it is just a difference of opinions. If you have a difference like that its best to part ways and not be in each other company. It’s not like ECF maintains a “do not buy list” that they have placed those suppliers on.
Don’t get me wrong, I strongly value having the privilege of being a supplier here, and I do believe meeting the rules and being allowed to contribute here is an invaluable endorsement. Others may not feel the same.
Different suppliers offer different services. It’s just like the pizza business. I can order a 1 topping large walk-in for $5.99. Same order delivered is pushing $20. I live just out of town, so they won’t even deliver to me. Sound familiar? That doesn’t make one a rip-off, they are just different services.
Some suppliers can offer complicated pricing with hidden coupons. This is their choice if they wish to market that way. Some customers don’t think they are getting a deal unless they work for it by finding every hidden discount. Others don’t even care about price.
Each supplier approaches the market differently with advantages and disadvantaged over others. That’s the nature of marketing. It’s something a customer must look at to decide what the best deal is for them. What is right for you, may not be right for another. If that were the case every retailer would offer the same products at the same price delivered the same way.
Sometimes you can get a rude response from suppliers, or even one that is misinterpreted. We are people too. These business are the livelihood for us, and an attack on our business can appear as an attack on us. A rude response is never the correct answer to a customer, but us suppliers are humans to and can make mistakes.
I will not get involved and say who is right and who is wrong here. That is not the point. That thread is dead and locked, these are just general points that apply to all suppliers. I think it’s time everyone decides for themselves and we all move on.
The supplier mentioned about is not the only supplier who has been banned from the forum. One of the popular large juice retailers has also been banned.
ECF is not inspecting products and business practices, they are ruling on if a supplier meets their forum rules in the forums.
This doesn’t necessarily make them a bad retailer. ECF has their rules, it is their house. Not every supplier see’s eye to eye with them, nor the other way around. That doesn’t make one right and the other wrong, it is just a difference of opinions. If you have a difference like that its best to part ways and not be in each other company. It’s not like ECF maintains a “do not buy list” that they have placed those suppliers on.
Don’t get me wrong, I strongly value having the privilege of being a supplier here, and I do believe meeting the rules and being allowed to contribute here is an invaluable endorsement. Others may not feel the same.
Different suppliers offer different services. It’s just like the pizza business. I can order a 1 topping large walk-in for $5.99. Same order delivered is pushing $20. I live just out of town, so they won’t even deliver to me. Sound familiar? That doesn’t make one a rip-off, they are just different services.
Some suppliers can offer complicated pricing with hidden coupons. This is their choice if they wish to market that way. Some customers don’t think they are getting a deal unless they work for it by finding every hidden discount. Others don’t even care about price.
Each supplier approaches the market differently with advantages and disadvantaged over others. That’s the nature of marketing. It’s something a customer must look at to decide what the best deal is for them. What is right for you, may not be right for another. If that were the case every retailer would offer the same products at the same price delivered the same way.
Sometimes you can get a rude response from suppliers, or even one that is misinterpreted. We are people too. These business are the livelihood for us, and an attack on our business can appear as an attack on us. A rude response is never the correct answer to a customer, but us suppliers are humans to and can make mistakes.
I will not get involved and say who is right and who is wrong here. That is not the point. That thread is dead and locked, these are just general points that apply to all suppliers. I think it’s time everyone decides for themselves and we all move on.
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Prices are set by vendors as they wish. If they price too high, their volume is low. If they price cheaply, they will get the most business. If one makes great juice, they will get the business also. But as the vendor that was banned, that was an uncalled for act IMHO. Vendors are human, but they also should think twice before re-acting, it is their livelyhood at stake and a grown up manor should be their first priority as is the replies in controversial posts. Sometimes it's best to have a blind eye and move on.
Been there done that. And yes, it is commonplace, but not in his case. I offered to come pick whatever i wanted up from him ... on his doorstep even, and still he wouldnt budge. Which is why i made the 1st claim of him being overpriced.
Glad you enjoy his services ... i certainly do not. If you wanna know why, all you have to do is read. You can find my side of the story here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/canada-forum/233572-not-impressed.html
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My 2 cents. Are Cdn suppliers more expensive than their U.S, counterparts?- yes. Is the risk associated with a business in Ecigs higher than in the U.S.? definitely YES. So I believe because of this risk the pricing is understandable and, as many posters have noted, if we don't like the prices or appreciate the risk associated with doing business in Canada we can shop elsewhere. And yes I have calculated the profit margins and they are astronomical BUT the risk/ reward is very high...All IMHO.
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