Fake vision spinner @ Fasttech [closed]

[Kloudz]

Just goes to show that fast tech sells clones and cheap garbage. This link is from Vision itself.
The Statement of Copycat
All the spinners sold on ebay and fasttech that are 50% cheaper than the msrp are fakes and clones, just cuz it sounds like a great deal doesn't mean it is.
BUYER BEWARE!

 

[defdock]

note how fasttech labels the items. if it says AUTHENTIC in the name, they are selling the real ones. STYLE or otherwise, its obviously a clone - and priced as such.


if people learn how to read and understand the exact words used, there wouldn't be this big confusion. - sorry rant over

 

[Kloudz]

I didn't sense a rant, I agree 1000%.
I buy my stuff locally so if there is a discrepancy I take it back. I verified my spinner at the store to make sure it was authentic. Verified 1 time..

 

[InTheShade]

Just goes to show that fast tech sells clones and cheap garbage. This link is from Vision itself.
The Statement of Copycat
All the spinners sold on ebay and fasttech that are 50% cheaper than the msrp are fakes and clones, just cuz it sounds like a great deal doesn't mean it is.
BUYER BEWARE!

I don't think any proof was necessary that FT sells clones.

As for cheap garbage, it depends. They do sell some cheap garbage, but they also sell some pretty good quality items that are much less expensive than they are in other places.

My biggest issue is people buying copies and clones and then selling them at genuine manufacturers prices. Something FT could never be accused of.

Buyer beware indeed. Nowhere on FT's site does it say Genuine Vision Spinner - if, as a well-informed buyer, you cannot make that distinction I would say that's more on you than on FT.

Oh, I love how Vision mis-spelled Vision in their own press release

 

[roosterado]

I recently[2 months] got a Vision Style Spinner2 From FastTech So far It has been fine cannot tell a difference from my Genuine Spinner 2 I pifed a while ago. Now how many charge cycles it with last is unknown.

 

[vince01]

As I ve said in another thread, I dont have a problem with vendors selling clones/copies

just as long as they are costed and advertised as such

 

[Alien Traveler]

Just goes to show that fast tech sells clones and cheap garbage. This link is from Vision itself.
The Statement of Copycat
All the spinners sold on ebay and fasttech that are 50% cheaper than the msrp are fakes and clones, just cuz it sounds like a great deal doesn't mean it is.
BUYER BEWARE!

You are wrong on many accounts.
First: Fasttech does sell clones, but it alway says so:
Vision Spinner II Style 1600mAh
$14.53 Vision Spinner II Style 1600mAh Variable Voltage Battery - black / 3.3-4.8V at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
Second, usually in the terms price/performance Fasttech is much better than other online stores.
Third, Fasttech is a great deal.
Please, learn subject before trying to trash anything.

 

[joose junkie]

i have a fasttech stingray x clone and its just wonderful. you literally couldnt tell it apart from the authentic. dont be so quick to give up on fasttech.

 

[jaba62]

never had a problem with them, it either states authentic or just nothing. I only have a problem with the long arrival times. can't beat those prices!

 

[klynnn]

Obviously you are new. I have been buying there for almost 2 years. If it doesn't say authentic it isn't. I don't know why this is a problem for people. Half the time when you buy crap in the US nowadays it is a clone marked up 3 times over the price. Get used to it read reviews and forums to find out which products are best. Some of my clones are way better than the expensive brands but you must pick and choose carefully. If you want to pay three times as much go for it I'll take my chances and live with them.

 

[aikanae1]

FT is FT. Chinabuy, Healthcabin, FocalECig and several more. I'm more suspicious of Alibaba since they don't specifiy "style" but even they are what they are. Walk through Walmart. Generic vs. brand name. That's all it is. Sometimes it makes a difference and sometimes it doesn't.

 

[GinnyTx]

I'm not in love with Slow Tech at the moment, the part two of the first order on 8/20 finally came in yesterday, and it was a bunch of wrong, NOT what I'd ordered or what was on the invoice...and I'd opened a ticket on it last week (before the holiday) and didn't hear a thing from them until I left a bad review on the Reseller Website..and then they used their response as an ad "ships in two weeks" ...I'm done with Slow Tech.

Focalecig we got our order in two weeks...and it was exactly what we ordered.


ok if you got a fake put it on the reseller review you'll hear from Fast Tech that way if not from an open ticket. *rolly eyes*

good luck with that...

 

[Steve Parry]

I got a spinner II clone from them, but I knew it was a clone when I ordered it. Just wanted to check it out. The one I got is junk. You can spin the wheel but the voltages don't change. It is always at 3.7 volts. Also I'm not sure if it is supposed to do this or not, but I put a .5 ohm dual coil atomizer on it and it actually fires it. It's weak as heck of course, but it doe fire. Can't imagine that the real deal does that. You would think as a safety matter for beginners you would want it to cut out at 1 ohm at the very least.

 

[aikanae1]

I've always had good results with buying from China but I'm cautious. If it's something I need now or I know I depend on, then I'll buy local because I feel they will back the item - usually with authenticity unless I'm told different. I've spent $30 on Spinners locally because I depend on them - daily drivers. I've also paid $`15 for some that were just "pretty". I've been impressed by a few clones and I've been unimpressed by a few "authentics" too.

There is someone on FT who is figuring out the MAH ratings since FT doesn't check those. Very helpful when I've picked them out. FT takes a lot of reading sometimes.

 

[Alien Traveler]

Focalecig we got our order in two weeks...and it was exactly what we ordered.

Speaking about Vision Spinner let's compare prices:
Focalecig $81.63:
$80.55 Vision Spinner II Style 1600mAh Variable Voltage Battery(5-Pack) - 5-Colors 5PCS
Fasttech $65.12
$65.12 Vision Spinner II Style 1600mAh Variable Voltage Battery (5-Pack) - 5 colors at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Since both a (slowly) coming from China I still prefer fasttech.

 

[Rickajho]

Obviously you are new. I have been buying there for almost 2 years. If it doesn't say authentic it isn't. I don't know why this is a problem for people. Half the time when you buy crap in the US nowadays it is a clone marked up 3 times over the price. Get used to it read reviews and forums to find out which products are best. Some of my clones are way better than the expensive brands but you must pick and choose carefully. If you want to pay three times as much go for it I'll take my chances and live with them.

Well maybe if they weren't using a Corporate name (Vision) and a presumably trademarked product name (Spinner II) before they slide the word "style" in then their attempts to ride knockoffs on the back of genuine products wouldn't mess so many people up.

 

[crxess]

Seriously?
Who'da Thunk it!

Actually it would be difficult to find any China made product that is not made by several manufacturing companies and/or sold under several Brand names.
One cannot claim Quality simply be original manufacturer or secondary supply.

One cannot guarantee a Branded product is not being manufactured be a machining company which makes an exact unbranded product. i.e. Kanger once built for Joyetech, Sony supplies Xtar.

One also cannot take Blanket statements as Fact simply because!
Fasttech Authentic Products have already been proven to be so in spite of Marketers claiming otherwise to protect themselves from angry resellers.
Manufacturers also Deny any Co-op type sales, yet I have been in many co-op manufacturer direct purchases and bought at or below wholesale.

 

[Zealous]

You are wrong on many accounts.
First: Fasttech does sell clones, but it alway says so:
Vision Spinner II Style 1600mAh
$14.53 Vision Spinner II Style 1600mAh Variable Voltage Battery - black / 3.3-4.8V at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
Second, usually in the terms price/performance Fasttech is much better than other online stores.
Third, Fasttech is a great deal.
Please, learn subject before trying to trash anything.

You have failed to point out where the OP is wrong. Adding the word "style" to something doesn't mean you've said it's a clone. Granted those who've been using FT for a while have come to understand the difference in wording as an indication. However that doesn't mean they've come out & SAID it's a clone and for someone unfamiliar with them it could easily be an area of confusion.

Secondly, it depends on the product whether FT price/performance is "much better than other online stores". Some of their stuff is crap & some of it is just fine. I've had better experiences with my favorite online vendor on all accounts than with FT. Some people have had consistently great experiences with FT. But some have not.

Third, FT is only a great deal if what you purchase from them is useful to you. If the product is not good then you did not get "great" deal.

All that said, the OP merely stated that FT is not an official distributor of genuine Vision products and should not be thought of as such. The fact that regular users of FT already know their products are not all genuine doesn't make the OPs point any less true.

 

[Froth]

Just goes to show that fast tech sells clones and cheap garbage. This link is from Vision itself.
The Statement of Copycat
All the spinners sold on ebay and fasttech that are 50% cheaper than the msrp are fakes and clones, just cuz it sounds like a great deal doesn't mean it is.
BUYER BEWARE!

Could you do me a favor and give your own definition of "fake" and "clone"? Honestly I think the term "fake" is misleading especially since Fasttech never says anywhere that it is an authentic product they are offering, therefore you can draw your own conclusions on if it's a copy, clone, potato, tuber, etc but it's not a "fake". Being "fake" would require it to be sold as the real deal for a real price only to find out you've been had when the product arrives.

You're more than welcome to simply never order from Fasttech, they're not forcing anything upon you. China works differently, they clone and copy nearly everything from phones to cars, yes...Entire cars. Chinese automaker blatantly copies Ford F-150 | Fox News

But, to be a "fake" that Chinese truck would have to be sold as the real deal Ford. Therefore, it is simply a clone or copy, just like 95% of the stuff Fasttech sells.

 

[Zealous]

Could you do me a favor and give your own definition of "fake" and "clone"? Honestly I think the term "fake" is misleading especially since Fasttech never says anywhere that it is an authentic product they are offering, therefore you can draw your own conclusions on if it's a copy, clone, potato, tuber, etc but it's not a "fake". Being "fake" would require it to be sold as the real deal for a real price only to find out you've been had when the product arrives.

Agreed on this. For it to be a "fake" vision spinner style battery the battery would mean there was something sketchy with it, like it's just the casing & no actual battery inside or something like that. That's a fake.

P.S. not saying this to you directly Froth. Simply adding to your statement so I quoted it.