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CrimsonJack

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I try to be positive about stuff, but there is definitely a place for warning people off products they have had problems with. If it wasn't for negative reviews, I'd have an unused Blu kit sitting in a drawer and a pack of Marlboro Menthols sitting next to me instead of my MVP and a bottle of MBV Cinnamon Roll. There is a huge difference between sharing a negative experience with a product and just bashing a product that you didn't like, however. I like my PV, and I recommend it when I see someone looking for something that I think it fits the bill for, but certainly wouldn't say it was perfect for everyone, and I wouldn't ever say it was better than something I haven't tried yet. As far as the whole "opinion" discussion goes, we all have 'em, we all talk about 'em, very few of us give a crap about the ones that belong to others, but without 'em the forums would be a barren wasteland of tech jargon and instruction manual quotes, so let's all just be glad to have a constructive outlet for 'em. And that is my opinion on opinions. Feel free to post your opinion on my opinion on opinions. I'm sure I'll have an opinion on that, too.
 

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Folks,
Don't we have bigger things to worry about, more important issues to consider, bigger fish to fry (so to speak) than whose mod is bigger, whose equipment is better, who gets more vapes to the gallon, and on, and on, and on.

After all, keep in mind, it is Shark Week. Happy Shark Week all...... :toast:

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Yes I totally get that.. which is why I think its especially important to speak up on threads that are overwhelmingly positive... So people can hear the flip side of the coin. I've never started a topic to say I've hated anything, or advise anyone not to get it. But I've been vocal about my bad experience with some very popular things, and what I had to say was not very well received. Sorry I can't always agree with the general consensus but I fail to see why this makes me the bad guy.
Anyone willing to speak up in the face of opposition is someone to be respected.
Provided, of course that they are of honest opinion without ulterior motives.

But I'll respect anyone who stands up against the fannys, regardless of their motive.
Fannys annoy the hell out of me.
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Anyone willing to speak up in the face of opposition is someone to be respected.
Provided, of course that they are of honest opinion without ulterior motives.

But I'll respect anyone who stands up against the fannys, regardless of their motive.
Fannys annoy the hell out of me.
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Indeed. But I look at it as just stating a different opinion rather than speaking up against something. Nothing wrong with stating an honest opinion, whether it's the same or different as the people you're speaking to. But it's still just one opinion, holding no more or less importance than the other opinions stated.

It rarely turns into an issue if someone is stating a differing opinion (from my experience). Most people here seem to be able to handle dissenting opinions like adults. If people do make an issue of a different opinion, it may be that the way it was stated rubs people the wrong way, moreso than the act of stating a differing opinion. Or if an opinion stated is so far off from how the people you are speaking to see it, they may speak up strongly. Or it just may be you spoke your opinion to a bunch of asshats that don't like to hear differing opinions, but that's a situation I haven't ran into much around here.

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Indeed. But I look at it as just stating a different opinion rather than speaking up against something. Nothing wrong with stating an honest opinion, whether it's the same or different as the people you're speaking to. But it's still just one opinion, holding no more or less importance than the other opinions stated.

It rarely turns into an issue if someone is stating a differing opinion (from my experience). Most people here seem to be able to handle dissenting opinions like adults. If people do make an issue of a different opinion, it may be that the way it was stated rubs people the wrong way, moreso than the act of stating a differing opinion. Or if an opinion stated is so far off from how the people you are speaking to see it, they may speak up strongly. Or it just may be you spoke your opinion to a bunch of asshats that don't like to hear differing opinions, but that's a situation I haven't ran into much around here.

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I spend a lot of time in the FastTech thread, an example of this is the Evod clones. The large majority of people who comment on them does so favourably, a minority advise the issues they have had with them, then one or two jump in randomly to tell everyone "DO NOT BUY THE EVODS EVERYONE"
 

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I spend a lot of time in the FastTech thread, an example of this is the Evod clones. The large majority of people who comment on them does so favourably, a minority advise the issues they have had with them, then one or two jump in randomly to tell everyone "DO NOT BUY THE EVODS EVERYONE"

Well why not? I want to be comfortable in the knowledge that the little piece of mass-produced plastic that just epically failed was a name brand!
 

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I spend a lot of time in the FastTech thread, an example of this is the Evod clones. The large majority of people who comment on them does so favourably, a minority advise the issues they have had with them, then one or two jump in randomly to tell everyone "DO NOT BUY THE EVODS EVERYONE"

Hehe. That's one case I wish I would have listened to the minority, as the two clones I received are leaky compared to the original Kanger one I got. I wouldn't warn everyone not to buy them, but I would state that in my case I had better luck with the original.

But yes, there is sometimes a knee-jerk reaction where a couple dissenting opinion gets stated as the absolute. The fact that something doesn't work for me shouldn't be stated as an opinion that everyone will have my same experience. I can give my opinions,reactions, and experiences; but if I start giving yours for you it's best to ignore me.

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There is so much variety out there it is a shame to pigeonhole yourself to just one thing. It's an e-cig, not a cult or gym membership after all.

This is true. I tried to get into the YMCA by showing my e-cig. The guy at the counter said; it's an e-cig, not a gym membership. It turns out it's also not a library card nor a certified check. Maybe I need a ProVari.

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This is true. I tried to get into the YMCA by showing my e-cig. The guy at the counter said; it's an e-cig, not a gym membership. It turns out it's also not a library card nor a certified check. Maybe I need a ProVari.

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A ProVari wouldn't let you go to the YMCA, it would insist on a spa.
 

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Anyone willing to speak up in the face of opposition is someone to be respected.
Provided, of course that they are of honest opinion without ulterior motives.

But I'll respect anyone who stands up against the fannys, regardless of their motive.
Fannys annoy the hell out of me.
:)

The Chargers are lame. How could they fire Schottenheimer after a 14-2 season then replace him with Turner, a proven team wrecker. The only reason they had any success with Norv is the rest of the division was slumping for a few years. Archie was right to advise Eli to make it clear he didn't want anything to do with that team. Now Eli has 2 rings.

Oh, you meant fanboys in the e-cig community?
 

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    You aren't the bad guy.
    Sometimes people on certain threads prefer to 'kill the messenger.'
    Common sense tells us that not everyone will LOVE every product.
    Experience tells us that the forums are filled with the entire spectrum of personalities,
    so verbal attacks of personal opinions are not surprising, either.
    Ah, well....
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    That duck deserves to be shot!
     

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    Well... How does this differ from posting a great review which prompts someone to buy it and then they end up hating it?

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    It doesn't apply if you just give your own experience and not try and judge how someone else might feel about the same product. I love reos and reomizer2 for many reasons but mainly because they work for me.They might be what others are looking for as a mod and rba.
     

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    Finally,I believe all mods are good for someone somewhere, whether they be plastic, metal or wood. Whether they be bottom fed boxes or Tubes with the latest VV or VW. Pick what ever you can use and never be ashamed of your own choice.

    When helping someone else with options i try and take their needs and wants into consideration and their feelings also.

    Thanks to everyone who posted here. This is a great thread for me to see both sides of how fanboys and fangirls are looked at...
     
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