Fat daddy 510?
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Will they come this year before Christmas? Any idea how big the run will be? Pre orders or first come first serve? I am nervous about these since I heard the rumors beginning of this year lol.
All about better features here, of course... but, how is an adjustable 510 a further benefit? What 'adjusts' exactly?
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It´t not easy for me since I am not in the US, but I´ll wait for the connectors from Rob...
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Some atomizers are too short/long, so an adjustable center pin helps to make contact or avoids the need to screw the atty too much, wich increases the risk of shorting the REO.
I can see how this will open up choices in the RDA market which were limited with the current catch cup. The other plus just a new better improved CC in general.
Do we actually need a catch cup? Looking at the way I vaped a few years ago with a cisco 510 atty and now I honestly don't even see a need for it just for me personally.
With a cisco the juice came out on the sides so the catch cup was needed while now the juice goes into my big rda. Only when I over do it I might see a drop coming out of the airhole.
With a cisco the juice came out on the sides so the catch cup was needed while now the juice goes into my big rda. Only when I over do it I might see a drop coming out of the airhole.
I wont even attempt dates on the wood run . I build wood mods when I have time and these days I find it harder and harder to make the time for woodvils .
As far as how many I will make well its never enough when making wood mods . How many wood mods does it take I have asked my self this ? many times. The answer is enough for one sale night . I always try to make enough so if your there on sale night everyone can get a mod . Its a daunting task building 2 to 3 hundred wood mods . Its not one I can pass on to my guys I have to do most of it .
I dont see me making Christmas with this run . pre orders lol not in this life time mod builder suicide . When I am close to completing the mods I will set a date .
Many of us dont need a juice well on the other hand there are probably even more people still using standard atomizer and cartomizers on reos . I have a lot of customers that have no interest in using rebuildable atomizers This is why I have low pro and standard vaporizers
Well, that will make it easier to decide what I want for Xmas! LP Grand moves to the top of the list and mechanical woody goes on the .... Easter Bunny list? Beginning of Spring list? Dead of Winter blues list? I'll come up with some kind of list!
I'm one of those who appreciates that you have kept the standard vaporizer available. Away from home recently with no "go kit". My bro took the cap off the RM2, fiddled with & broke the coil. I grabbed a cisco lr 306 out of the glove box where I keep it for emergencies and kept on with no fuss/no mess vaping.
I'm dying to see these new 510's... I've always liked the larger atties for dual coils and I want to run them on my woodies because that's just what I use most. i've tried a few different setups for 510's but the only way to really get exactly what I wanted was to build it from scratch. I've bought a bunch of different 510's from a bunch of different vendors including the fatdaddy's but like rob said, none are going to really fit the woodie. I wanted something bulletproof, stainless steel and solid. something that couldn't ruin o rings if over tightened and be strong enough to be able to snug an atty down tight for a good contact yet also fit any atty, so it had to be adjustable and I wanted it flush so I recessed it into the woodie flush. also I wanted something that bolts in instead of glued in so I made a retaining nut that holds it in. I've had glued in 510's heat up so much that the 510 can loosen up from the heat and then I have a bobble head woodie 
heres a few pics of the latest one, I've done a few other setups before this one but this is the first one from scratch and completely flush to the mod
I made the center pin thread tight into a hard plastic delrin insulator so no leaks ever and no orings to get squashed. I made the tip adjustable so I can adjust it to fit any atty. the adjustable tip is small so it isn't bored through, instead the juice comes up to the screw and then bleeds into the connection and into the atty. the tip of the contact screw has 4 points so it doesn't block juice flow but really digs in for a solid connection with almost no voltage drop. I tried building a spring loaded 510 that would give as good of a connection but I failed several times so I'm just sticking with adjustable at this point. a good spring loaded 510 will take more space and be complicated compared to this
this is the adjustable tip... adjusts with a small phillips driver... still needs to be polished, this is just raw machined. the juice goes around this screw and into the atty, not through this screw but it works just as good as a straight through would because of the reliefs cut into the head
retaining nut not installed yet but it bolts the atty base into the mod so it can't pull out or loosen up yet is easily removable
I only have 1 woodie that still has a stock 510, and that's the one I run a chalice on so it works great and matches the other brass trim I added on that one. the original 510 is great for the small atties and that one never leaks either but I just leave the chalice on there and that's it so I never had any problems with that one, it's only when you try to run a larger atty that needs a different 510 really.
heres a few pics of the latest one, I've done a few other setups before this one but this is the first one from scratch and completely flush to the modI made the center pin thread tight into a hard plastic delrin insulator so no leaks ever and no orings to get squashed. I made the tip adjustable so I can adjust it to fit any atty. the adjustable tip is small so it isn't bored through, instead the juice comes up to the screw and then bleeds into the connection and into the atty. the tip of the contact screw has 4 points so it doesn't block juice flow but really digs in for a solid connection with almost no voltage drop. I tried building a spring loaded 510 that would give as good of a connection but I failed several times so I'm just sticking with adjustable at this point. a good spring loaded 510 will take more space and be complicated compared to this
this is the adjustable tip... adjusts with a small phillips driver... still needs to be polished, this is just raw machined. the juice goes around this screw and into the atty, not through this screw but it works just as good as a straight through would because of the reliefs cut into the head
retaining nut not installed yet but it bolts the atty base into the mod so it can't pull out or loosen up yet is easily removable
I only have 1 woodie that still has a stock 510, and that's the one I run a chalice on so it works great and matches the other brass trim I added on that one. the original 510 is great for the small atties and that one never leaks either but I just leave the chalice on there and that's it so I never had any problems with that one, it's only when you try to run a larger atty that needs a different 510 really.
thanks, that latest design is still not perfect. I think to be perfect I would rather have the upper threaded pin be reverse threaded like the pin in a poldiac, this way when you adjust it the atty can't cause the screw to thread in as the atty is installed. it works good as is because the threads on the pin are course but the 510 threads are fine but I would be able to get a really super tight crank it down connection if it was reverse threaded... man I wish I had a good cnc lathe 
Not on topic but are these self-adjusting spring loaded center pin 510s any good? Or just a problem waiting to happen? They appear to be convenient but I have a clue.
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spring loaded is awesome in theory, not too difficult to pull off a spring loaded pin that works well but when you bring bottom feeding into the mix it becomes much more of a challenge. you don't want the spring itself to really carry any current because then it would have to be a very thick spring relative to the tiny size of a 510 thread
in a sense all reo 510's are somewhat spring loaded, but there using the springyness of the rubber insulators, if you crank it down too much you may compress the gasket enough to short it out or damage it and cause leaks but it is somewhat spring loaded in that it can absorb the slight differences of atty depth where a fixed pin wouldn't give any wiggle room at all, a fixed solid mount pin pretty much requires adjustability so for it to work with a range of atties it's either spring loaded or fixed adjustable. fixed adjustable is probably better from a high power point of view, spring loaded would need a high force spring to maintain a solid contact. the o ring floating pin setup of current reo's is actually pretty effective as long as you don't overtighten it enough to crush the seals
in a sense all reo 510's are somewhat spring loaded, but there using the springyness of the rubber insulators, if you crank it down too much you may compress the gasket enough to short it out or damage it and cause leaks but it is somewhat spring loaded in that it can absorb the slight differences of atty depth where a fixed pin wouldn't give any wiggle room at all, a fixed solid mount pin pretty much requires adjustability so for it to work with a range of atties it's either spring loaded or fixed adjustable. fixed adjustable is probably better from a high power point of view, spring loaded would need a high force spring to maintain a solid contact. the o ring floating pin setup of current reo's is actually pretty effective as long as you don't overtighten it enough to crush the seals
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