FDA FDA announces E-Cigarette workshop (DEC 2014)

[Cloud Hunter]

Here's the official info on that:

"FDA is announcing a public workshop to gather scientific information and stimulate discussion among scientists about electronic cigarettes (e-cigarettes). The focus of this workshop will be product science (specifically device designs and characteristics, and e-liquid and aerosol constituents), product packaging, constituent labeling, and environmental impact."

Electronic Cigarettes and the Public Health; Public Workshop

Cheers,

C H

 

[Kent C]

Again, the Zeller theory: the individual vs. the collective... where the 'collective' wins. (even though the 'collective' only consists of individuals.)

"FDA intends to follow this workshop with two additional electronic cigarette workshops, with one on individual health effects and one on population health effects."

CASAA, Bill G., Siegel, et. al. - hope they attend and hope they're allowed to attend.

 

[zoiDman]

Here's the official info on that:

"FDA is announcing a public workshop to gather scientific information and stimulate discussion among scientists about electronic cigarettes (e-cigarettes). The focus of this workshop will be product science (specifically device designs and characteristics, and e-liquid and aerosol constituents), product packaging, constituent labeling, and environmental impact."

Electronic Cigarettes and the Public Health; Public Workshop

Cheers,

C H

Thank You for posting this Cloud Hunter.

 

[SeniorBoy]

Thanks OP. The Desk Murders are at it again!!!

Seems to me and I'm obviously seriously biased /lol that the core mission of the FDA should be public health which takes a back seat to their twisted desire to legislate the "details" out of vaping. Pick pick pick and forgret Public Health. Cart before the horse!

The first workshop details: A Public Workshop – Electronic Cigarettes and the Public Health

Repeating what Kent said can you guess what's last on the list:

FDA intends to follow this workshop with two additional electronic cigarette workshops, with one on individual health effects and one on population health effects.

 

[Kent C]

@SeniorBoy

Exactly. Just in case there are some who don't get the Zeller reference:

For Zeller, there are also two groups - the smaller group of 'hard core smokers' (where ecigs would be beneficial for them) [individuals], and 'smokers who would quit', but dual use would continue the addiction and deter any reason to quit.

From HELP:
"But our job as the regulator is to figure out what is going on at the population level and it includes the much larger group [collective] of smokers not like the first group I defined, a much larger group of smokers who are concerned about their health and who are interested in quitting and what happens instead of those people completely substituting with a non-combustible product, they start using both, and then along the way they wind up becoming less interested in quitting. So then we would say that might not be good for public health, and our job is to figure out what is the net of all of those possible behaviors including any initiation which would not be good for public health and then try to make public policy on top of that."



Stanton A. Glantz, a professor of medicine at the University of California, San Francisco, said the study’s limitation was that it tried to measure the effect of e-cigarette use only among smokers who were trying hard to quit, not all smokers.

 

[zoiDman]

How does one go about getting a List of Presenters for this FDA Workshop?

 

[AgentAnia]

So I guess the term "public" in this instance means "not government (but still scientists)," and not, you know, *us.*

God forbid they should hold a workshop in which they'd have to listen to, you know, *us.*

 

[zoiDman]

From the Federal Registry Link,

Registration to Attend the Workshop: If you wish to attend the workshop in person or by Webcast, you must register by submitting either an electronic or written request no later than November 25, 2014. Please submit electronic requests at https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/CTP-December-Workshop

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Panelists will sit on a panel to discuss their scientific knowledge on the questions and presentations in each session. To be considered to serve as a panelist, please provide the following:
A one-page biosketch that describes and supports the speaker's scientific expertise on the specific topic(s) being presented, nature of the individual's experience and research in the scientific field, positions held, and any program development activities.

If you are interested in serving as a presenter or panelist, please submit the above information, along with the topic on which you would like to speak, to workshop.CTPOS@fda.hhs.gov by November 4, 2014

 

[DrMA]

How does one go about getting a List of Presenters for this FDA Workshop?

They're currently soliciting applications for presenters and panelists.

But also note that "FDA Invites Public Comments on E-Cigarettes and the Public Health" and vapers in the greater DC area should make an effort to attend. There will also be an announcement about submitting public written comments, which ALL 6 million vapers in the US should submit.

On another note, I really hope objective and ethical researchers genuinely interested in public health will participate either in person or via the web. Among them, I'd really like to see Drs. Farsalinos, Hajek, West, Phillips, Siegel, Rodu, Nitzkin, Burstyn and Mr. Bates, Godshall.

 

[Nate760]

Stanton A. Glantz, a professor of medicine at the University of California, San Francisco, said the study’s limitation was that it tried to measure the effect of e-cigarette use only among smokers who were trying hard to quit, not all smokers.

Stan Glantz trying to lecture other people about flawed methodology? Now I've really heard it all.

 

[zoiDman]

They're currently soliciting applications for presenters and panelists.

But also note that "FDA Invites Public Comments on E-Cigarettes and the Public Health" and vapers in the greater DC area should make an effort to attend. There will also be an announcement about submitting public written comments, which ALL 6 million vapers in the US should submit.

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Yes... And as soon a Anyone has Any Information about who the Presenters might be, or how to find it, Please Post it to This Thread.

BTW - People should know that they Can contact the FDA at ANY Time. But of course, an Organized Reply in mass will have Great Impact that Individuals Contacting the FDA at Random.

But Never Feel you have to wait for the FDA to Ask for your Comments.

 

[Kent C]

They're currently soliciting applications for presenters and panelists.

But also note that "FDA Invites Public Comments on E-Cigarettes and the Public Health" and vapers in the greater DC area should make an effort to attend. There will also be an announcement about submitting public written comments, which ALL 6 million vapers in the US should submit.

On another note, I really hope objective and ethical researchers genuinely interested in public health will participate either in person or via the web. Among them, I'd really like to see Drs. Farsalinos, Hajek, West, Phillips, Siegel, Rodu, Nitzkin, and Mr. Bates, Godshall.

And if this guy needs airfare - I'd contribute

Igor Burstyn, PhD | School of Public Health | Drexel University

 

[zoiDman]

And if this guy needs airfare - I'd contribute

Igor Burstyn, PhD | School of Public Health | Drexel University

That is the kind of Fund Raising I can Get Behind.

I wonder if AEMSA or SFATA will have any Involvement in these Workshops?

 

[Kent C]

That is the kind of Fund Raising I can Get Behind.

I wonder if AEMSA or SFATA will have any Involvement in these Workshops?

I would hope so, and I'm guessing they're already relaying the info - and perhaps planning.

 

[SeniorBoy]

This is interesting. If you wish to watch the live webcast or attend in person as an observer you must go here:

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/CTP-December-Workshop

I did this and the final screen displayed said this and bolded by me:

To submit nominations for presenters or panelists, please email the following information to workshop.CTPOS@fda.hhs.gov no later than November 4, 2014:

For Presenters:

• A brief abstract for each presentation. The abstract should identify the specific topic(s) to be addressed and the amount of time requested.
• A one-page biosketch that describes and supports the speaker’s scientific expertise on the specific topic(s) being presented, nature of the individual’s experience and research in the scientific field, positions held, and any program development activities.

For Panelists:

• A one-page biosketch that describes and supports the speaker’s scientific expertise on the specific topic(s) being presented, nature of the individual’s experience and research in the scientific field, positions held, and any program development activities.

Presenters and panelists will be selected and invited to participate based on their availability and scientific background.

So if we know someone on "our side" would like to talk then we may be able to enhance the chances of selection by the Desk Murders with a few thousand "nominations".

EDIT: You can also "subscribe" to the Federal Register for email notify when new stuff gets released. You Join, then click back from the email. The email has instructions on how to use a search term to get notification. I used "Electronic Cigarettes"

 

[DrMA]

And if this guy needs airfare - I'd contribute

Igor Burstyn, PhD | School of Public Health | Drexel University

Of course Dr. Burstyn's perspective would be most welcome. He should be within driving distance from FDA HQ.

However, I'd be weary of financial contributions from vapers or pro-vaping organizations to any speakers, because they may be used to paint them in a negative light as a perceived COI.

 

[bigdancehawk]

So I guess the term "public" in this instance means "not government (but still scientists)," and not, you know, *us.*

God forbid they should hold a workshop in which they'd have to listen to, you know, *us.*

Yes, they've specified whom they want to hear from: "Scientific and medical experts; other interested participants from academia, public health organizations, federal, state and local government agencies; the tobacco industry; and other interested stakeholders."

I doubt the people at ProVape consider themselves members of the "tobacco industry."

 

[Kent C]

Of course Dr. Burstyn's perspective would be most welcome. He should be within driving distance from FDA HQ.

However, I'd be weary of financial contributions from vapers or pro-vaping organizations to any speakers, because they may be used to paint them in a negative light as a perceived COI.

Sigh..... I probably shouldn't comment.... so perhaps CASAA or AEMSA shouldn't attend?? Almost all you listed are supported (including with funds) from "vapers or pro-vaping organizations".

 

[Kent C]

Yes, they've specified whom they want to hear from: "Scientific and medical experts; other interested participants from academia, public health organizations, federal, state and local government agencies; the tobacco industry; and other interested stakeholders."

I doubt the people at ProVape consider themselves members of the "tobacco industry."

According to the deeming, they are

 

[Nate760]

I doubt the people at ProVape consider themselves members of the "tobacco industry."

FDA's already decided that e-cigs are tobacco products. Therefore, everyone who makes e-cigs is part of the "tobacco industry." Therefore, if somebody from Njoy, or ProVape, or V2, or Halo, et al gives a presentation at the workshop, you can bet the farm the media accounts are going to refer to them as "tobacco industry spokesmen."