FDA files appeal

[jagstang]

Power hungry much?

FDA Files New Appeal on E-Cigarettes - WSJ.com

 

[devilock76]

I love how the article shows the FDA contradicting themselves. They are mad the court overturned it insisting to treat it as a drug delivery device, but the court said no treat it like tobacco, then they go on to say that the court made an error hurting the FDA's ability to regulate it like tobacco?

Huh what who?

Ken

 

[house mouse]

Clear error of law? So basically they're calling the Judges incompetent? Might not sit too well with them.

 

[uba egar320]

F D A These guys just won't give up lol.
a o p
c n p
t ' l
s t y

 

[Petrodus]

Nice Christmas present...FDA
The Grinch who stole Christmas

There won't be any shortage of E-cigarette in the News articles
for a long time to come.

 

[owutaqt]

What is their problem? I just do not get why they wont leave it alone? I know they have done testing, if it showed anything at all that was harmful they would throw it in the ring and ban them so fast our heads would spin, but instead this legal showdown is nothing short of a waste of money, our money. It frustrates me that they just cannot get over the fact that it is OVER....O V E R....move on, try another way.
I wish I could understand the reasoning behind them being so .... hurt over this.

 

[JonnyVapΣ]

It's disgusting. It's become a waste of taxpayer money...business as usual. Cut some of their funding and their job will suddenly become relevant.

Edit;
HA! Just realized what I said. Their fear is that electronic cigarettes ARE cutting their "funding" by bypassing their little goldmines, commonly called "Nicotine Replacement Therapy" or "NRT's".

We don't wanna buy your ... GUM!
Get over it!
Stick some stickers on your own ... while you're at it.

 

[Petrodus]

Last post on this subject until after the dust settles

The FDA couldn't care less
Food for Thought

 

[Vocalek]

The article was very well done. The reporter has a clear understanding of the issues. Bravo!

I left this comment:

The FDA leadership should be ashamed of itself. While they waste our tax dollars beating a dead horse, the industry remains unregulated. Two levels of Federal Courts have recommended that the FDA regulate e-cigarettes under the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act. The Tobacco Act provides all the powers required to ensure product safety and proper labeling. In addition to refusing to carry out its mission to regulate products as defined by Congress, the FDA is guilty of something very akin to malpractice. No agency entrusted with public health should be using propaganda techniques to convince smokers to continue lighting up instead of switching to an alternative that will reduce the risks of smoking-related disease by up to 99%.

 

[trying]

Don't get ahead of the news just yet.

The FDA has filed an appeal but as of now the court has yet to accept the appeal request.

 

[t9c]

I'm not a bit surprised at the fDa's filing.

(rant on)
As long as the agency and other out of control federal agencies are allowed to spend, spend, spend yours and my hard earned money defending the cash cow of Corporate America, they will fight all the way to the Supreme Court and then may or may not abide even then. Why not? They have absolutely nothing to lose. We, the people are the only losers and have been for quite awhile.
(rant off)

 

[PlanetScribbles]

I don't quite get this. Does the US judicial system allow infinite appeals when infinite amounts of tax payer money is there to be spent?
If so, where is the point where the FDA diks just give it up and accept the majority opinion that they are full of it?

 

[Vocalek]

I'm not a bit surprised at the fDa's filing.

(rant on)
As long as the agency and other out of control federal agencies are allowed to spend, spend, spend yours and my hard earned money defending the cash cow of Corporate America, they will fight all the way to the Supreme Court and then may or may not abide even then. Why not? They have absolutely nothing to lose. We, the people are the only losers and have been for quite awhile.
(rant off)

(Let me hear you say) Amen!

 

[rothenbj]

It's time to start putting together communications to the newly elected congress to put a stop to the FDA's continual attempts to bankrupt those that have a different opinion the them. Let's face it, with seemingly endless pockets of OUR MONEY, they are able to use the judicial system to try to protect their client, the Pharma industry. Unless congress convinces them to abide by the Federal and appeals court ruling, the will continue to stonewall (another safer alternative tobacco product I might add) their opponents until they rub out of energy or finances to continue the fight. They need pressure from above and perhaps pressure from above will convince them to be somewhat reasonable.

 

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

One—only one, mind you—of the infuriating things about this endless series of appeals is this story from September, where the FDA was knee-deep in credible public-health causes to pursue, so many they couldn't fund all of them. "Margaret Hamburg, commissioner of the FDA, however, says the agency lacks the necessary resources to do its job."

Egg Recall, Drug Approval Time Raise Questions About FDA Resources

But they can find the money to field a small legal army—those guys don't work cheap—until, hopefully, the opposition folds for want of funding of their own.

 

[PlanetScribbles]

It's time to start putting together communications to the newly elected congress to put a stop to the FDA's continual attempts to bankrupt those that have a different opinion the them. Let's face it, with seemingly endless pockets of OUR MONEY, they are able to use the judicial system to try to protect their client, the Pharma industry. Unless congress convinces them to abide by the Federal and appeals court ruling, the will continue to stonewall (another safer alternative tobacco product I might add) their opponents until they rub out of energy or finances to continue the fight. They need pressure from above and perhaps pressure from above will convince them to be somewhat reasonable.

Exactly. It seems like a game of poker where there is no table limit and the winner is always the one with the biggest pile of chips because everyone else is forced to throw in their winning hand.
That isn't justice, it borders on corrupt and unethical practice.

 

[sang k]

corrupt and unethical practice = big tobacca & big pharma

follow the money

 

[D103]

One of these federal justices has got to be wanting to say, "...excuse me FDA, what exactly about 'NO' don't you understand?"

 

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

One of these federal justices has got to be wanting to say, "...excuse me FDA, what exactly about 'NO' don't you understand?"

In the end, that'll have to be a Supreme Federal Justice.

 

[sang k]

2 face hypocrite fda

they scream nic ecigs are drug products but state rj renyolds smokeless dissovable chewables are tobacca products. lol

Letter to Industry on Dissolvable Smokeless Tobacco Products (R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company)

Snus News & Other Tobacco Products: R.J. Reynolds Tobacco confirms Camel Dissolvables being pulled from all 3-test markets..

*i guess my links dont work