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Discussion in 'Sub-Ohm' started by mollyone, Sep 25, 2019.

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  1. mollyone

    mollyone Full Member

    Sep 25, 2019
    Hi. I'm interested in building my first coil. I think I'd like to try a single coil build first, for simplicity. I'm ordering a geekvape zeus x 25mm RTA, a pack of cotton lump, a toolkit, and - I'm not sure which wire I should get. I've read a little, and I think a regular kanthal KA1 wire would be best for me? I'm not sure what gauge I should get. I guess bigger would be easier for me to manipulate. I usually vape using a .2 ohm coil in a cerberus tank on my Aegis Solo. That is the kind of experience I am aiming for. I have no idea what I'm doing though when it comes to what wire I need to achieve that, or anything having to do with building a coil for that matter. Can different wires create the same effect depending on how the coil is built, number of wraps and so on? I guess more surface area would create a thicker vapor. I have bookmarked the coil wrapping calculator on steam-engine.org and plan to use that. Does anyone have any advice on what wire I should get for my first time. Or any advice at all?
     
  2. mollyone

    mollyone Full Member

    Sep 25, 2019
    I am also ordering an ohm-meter, I meant to add.
     
  3. sonicbomb

    sonicbomb Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 17, 2015
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  4. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All* ECF Veteran

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    I would do some "What If" scenarios on Steam Engine to get a Feel for what Wire Alloy/Gauge/Number of Wraps you think you might want to try.

    When I was New to Coil Building, I built everything using a 3mm ID Coil. It made Wicking a little more forgiving than a Smaller or Larger Coil ID.

    As for What Wire?...

    My theory is Wire is Cheap. So I would consider getting a small spool of Both Kanthal A1 and SS (and possibly even NiChrome 80) in maybe 26ga and 28ga.

    It's just Hard to say what you might Like the Best? So I would get a Lot of Choices in One Order to save on Shipping.
     
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  5. Don29palms

    Don29palms Moved On ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2014
    joshua tree, ca
    If you want to stay in the .2ohm range and single coil I would suggest 24g SS 316L wire. 4/5 wraps 3mm id is .23ish ohm. You can get a coil jig kit for less than $10. They are easy to use and perfect coils every time. I agree with @zoiDman. Grab a selection of wire. 24g, 26g and even 28g in kanthal a1, nichrome 80 and SS316L.
     
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  6. P3ch3

    P3ch3 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 31, 2019
    i would start with a single coil deck for the first try outs, zeus X could be tricky to wick...
     
  7. AngeNZ

    AngeNZ Lunatic ECF Veteran

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  8. Mordacai

    Mordacai Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jan 16, 2019
    UK
    @mollyone, the Coppervape Hussar Project X is a decent single coil RTA that's pretty easy to work with. I can easily recommend them without hesitation for a starter RTA.
     
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  9. Heatingman

    Heatingman Full Member

    Sep 18, 2016
    Ive found the easiest decks are postless. I use one by Vandyvape. I dont know what its called, but its the style that builds like a dripper, but has a tank below - RDTA?

    I used to do dual coils and have tried all sorts of arrangements.

    Ive settled on a single coil clapton wire set up.

    But for starting out, get 26 gauge Kanthol.

    I just do 6 tight wraps around the largest phillups head screwdriver shaft that comes in a precision screwdriver kit.

    Its pretty simple, no need for ohm meters or whatever, the mod has that built in. Does not matter what is positive or negative. Just place the coil from one post to the other.


    There are a whole slew of how to videos on Youtube.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  10. mollyone

    mollyone Full Member

    Sep 25, 2019
    Thanks guys. The tool kit I ordered came with a little coiling tool that helps you wrap a certain gauge of wire, so I've been using that. Everything has worked out pretty good. I'm happy with the tank. I am still learning how to make what I like, but I am a hands-on trial and error learner and I really enjoy tinkering with things. Thanks for your advice :)
     
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  11. mollyone

    mollyone Full Member

    Sep 25, 2019
    I see what you mean now. The tank came with two prebuilt nichrome coils, which I have really enjoyed using, so I'm ordering some of that next.
     
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  12. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All* ECF Veteran

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    Right On mollyone.

    There is something Inherently Satisfying about taking a Good Hit off a coil that You Made Yourself.

    :thumb:
     
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