I fill my Cartomizers until they are dripping out the battery end and then let them sit on a tissue until it stop. I fill my clearomizers until they have a small airbubble I can see under the top. The little waxed cord "needles" they give you are kinda bullpuckey so I went and got myself some 20 guage needles from Tractor Supply. Before I vape them I flip them up on their azz end and let the juice soak into the atomizer. It's all working pretty well for me. I like the taste and the vapor thru the clearomizers but they are so delicate. I get much more use from the cartomizers.
First Day with E-Cigs & Not off to a good start
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got it figured out finally using 510 Clear Dual Coil Mega Cartomizer, that just can be dripped into. Using banana bread liquid today and finding it enjoyable. Only thing is that I still want analog cigarettes. How long did it take others to stop wanting a cigarette and be totally satisfied with just vaping?
Great news that you found a combination that works for you!
I quit smoking the same day I started vaping. It still seems impossible that I was able to do that. My biggest fear was my equipment failing, so it is probably going to take a little time for you to trust that it's all going to work. I just continually vaped until I got past wanting a cigarette, and I made myself sick a few times. Seven weeks later, and I know I've never let myself get to any kind of withdrawal feeling, that was the only way it was going to work with me.
I still dream about smoking, and sometimes I "go to have a cigarette" and then it hits me that I don't smoke anymore, but it's gotten to be funny instead of frustrating.
Maybe you could allow yourself so many a day and then drop one every few days. I keep reading where people smoked a few weeks after vaping and thought they tasted horrible, but I've never trusted myself to try it.
I quit smoking the same day I started vaping. It still seems impossible that I was able to do that. My biggest fear was my equipment failing, so it is probably going to take a little time for you to trust that it's all going to work. I just continually vaped until I got past wanting a cigarette, and I made myself sick a few times. Seven weeks later, and I know I've never let myself get to any kind of withdrawal feeling, that was the only way it was going to work with me.
I still dream about smoking, and sometimes I "go to have a cigarette" and then it hits me that I don't smoke anymore, but it's gotten to be funny instead of frustrating.
Maybe you could allow yourself so many a day and then drop one every few days. I keep reading where people smoked a few weeks after vaping and thought they tasted horrible, but I've never trusted myself to try it.
if you find yourself really wanting an analog go ahead and smoke half of one. Eventually you will get to a point where they just wont taste good enough to continue.
now I am worried I don't have enough nicotine strength in the liquids.
I smoked over a pack a day, about 1 1/2 packs of Winstons for 30 years. I am using 24mg and it is ok, but I had to vape a lot for the first month or so to get over the urge. You can do it, stick with it, it won't be completely painless, but it is manageable and tolerable. Or try 36 mg if you need in the beginning.
I think at first it is more of withdrawal from all of the other chemicals!
I don't think more nicotine will help with that much. Another thing to remember is that the nic delivery from vapping is a lot slower than what you get from a cigarette so you may need to vape more than you smoked at first.
Don't stress over it. Just take it easy and figure out what works good for you. Forcing yourself beyond what you are ready for will lean you towards failure... If you need a half of a cig a couple of times a day to curb the extreme craving then so be it. It will get better. Not everybody was able to drop analogs the first day.
Some people have had good results with using a higher strength liquid in the morning and then tapering off to a lower level throughout the day. I still have times when I grab a 24mg juice just to help easy that craving that creeps up on me every now and then.
Fortunately I work mostly from home so I vape continuously all day and use a progressively lighter strength juice over time.
I don't think more nicotine will help with that much. Another thing to remember is that the nic delivery from vapping is a lot slower than what you get from a cigarette so you may need to vape more than you smoked at first.
Don't stress over it. Just take it easy and figure out what works good for you. Forcing yourself beyond what you are ready for will lean you towards failure... If you need a half of a cig a couple of times a day to curb the extreme craving then so be it. It will get better. Not everybody was able to drop analogs the first day.
Some people have had good results with using a higher strength liquid in the morning and then tapering off to a lower level throughout the day. I still have times when I grab a 24mg juice just to help easy that craving that creeps up on me every now and then.
Fortunately I work mostly from home so I vape continuously all day and use a progressively lighter strength juice over time.
Then my next question has to be... how do you know the 18mg strength was too strong?
I'm not saying it isn't possible, because it certainly is.
But for a 2 pack/day Marlboro Lights smoker, it would be fairly unusual.
So I just want to make sure.
I work from home too, but don't really have much time or inclination to fiddle much with liquids, etc. Topping off a carto is easy enough, as re-charging a battery, but all the other actions (e.g. syringes that I am too messy with, atomizers, etc), for now, seems too complicated.
Then my next question has to be... how do you know the 18mg strength was too strong?
I'm not saying it isn't possible, because it certainly is.
But for a 2 pack/day Marlboro Lights smoker, it would be fairly unusual.
So I just want to make sure.
I don't know other than when I first tried 36 and then 24 that I choked and gagged and was told by some folks here and also where I bought the product (MadVapes) that it was too high level. That was with a few different flavors, tobacco being the worst one. Of course, that was coupled with my first experience drawing in on a burnt cartomizer. But I also tried un-burnt cartomizers (once I got the hang of how to fill and use) and I still gagged. Maybe now that I am a "seasoned" newbie, I should try some of that old 24/36 mg and find out if it is satisfying now.
If it isn't make sure to come on back and let us know.
When people are not feeling enough satisfaction from vaping, higher nicotine content is the first thing to try.
But that might not be the issue you are having, and there are other things to look at after that.
I will try some of 24 or 36 liquids (I bought a bunch of 5ml bottles when I placed my first order, though the flavors turned out to not be ones I like the best... so far black licorice, fireball and banana bread are winners) and let you know what the results are. I realize as bstedh pointed out that a-cigs have a lot more crap in them than nicotine which may be even more addictive; hence the cravings. I am determined to give this a persistent attempt(s) to make this work. I really don't want to smoke cigarettes anymore. Tomorrow, I am taking off from work and going to the beach (I live at the beach, but never get out much because of stressful work). I plan to pack my e-cig and leave the a-cigs behind. Thanks!
First a bit of background on me. I am 56 years old, have been smoking 2 packs/day since I was 15 and have been smoking Malboro Reds or Lights for the past 20. I have arthritis in my neck and hands, as well as rheumatoid arthitis just diagnosed last year. I also have COPD from smoking and wheeze most of the time. I have been told repeatedly that smoking has to go and my health will dramatically improve when that happens.
I work from home. I don't smoke in this house I moved into 4 years ago and I like that it does not smell bad.
As of right now am a bit frustrated, particularly that cartomizer purchases have not been properly paired with batteries. All have been ordered from the same vendor - MadVapes.
Here is a the recap:
So, I have spent about $200. I have 3 batteries: 1 eGo and 2 510 Mega and a whole bunch of clear cartomizers that are not really for these batteries. I was told I could up to the RoughStack kit ($75) or the ePower ($46), but I am not wild about spending more money until I know what I am doing.
I think I at least need to get replacement cartomizers and have no clue what good ones are. I am loathe to get those Smok Tech again since they were so bad. I have so all these clear cartomizers, and while I could use the eGo or Mega battery, I have been told it is not going to be that satisfying and also may damage the batteries.
We are on the eve of a long holiday weekend. I am really upset. Wanted to really focus on vaping this weekend, and all I want to do now is smoke. If anyone has advice on what is the best approach to take now, considering what I have already got, I would be most grateful.
I work from home. I don't smoke in this house I moved into 4 years ago and I like that it does not smell bad.
As of right now am a bit frustrated, particularly that cartomizer purchases have not been properly paired with batteries. All have been ordered from the same vendor - MadVapes.
Here is a the recap:
- 05/05/11 - Got eGo Carto Kit with a whole bunch of 5ml 24-36/mg nic liquids
eGo Carto Kit has 2 eGo 900mah batteries, 5 Bauway Cartomizers (2.5 ohms), eGo Cone (cover)
200ma eGo chargerStated on site: Low Resistance(less than 2.0 ohms) atomizers and cartomizers should not be used with eGo batteries.
Problems:
Had no idea how to fill cartomizer on first use, and ended up burning the first 2. Also had trouble with the liquids causing choking and gagging (maybe more of that burnt taste) even though now the cartomizers were saturated in liquid (as evidenced by the dripping from the battery end). Got plenty of good tips on how to blow the primer out of new cartomizers and how draw in the vape.
Also, battery button fell off one of the eGo batteries which made it unusable. - 05/08/11 - MadVapes replaced Bauway cartomizers with Smok Tech 2.5 Ohm 510 Mega Cartomizer and replaced Ego battery with 510 Mega Battery. Three of the cartomizers turned out to be burnt from the start, though I know I primed and filled these correctly.
- 05/10/11 - Per suggestions from this message board, got liquids in 18mg instead of 24 (or 36) nicotine strength.
- 05/12/11 - Got 510 XL CLEAROMIZER 2.4-2.6 OHM which turned out to be a mess with syringes and liquid everywhere except inside cartomizer. I am a klutz and also don't see well. Continued to use the 510 Mega Battery with lower strength liquids, but also vaped less and smoked more during a very stressful stretch of work.
- 05/20/11 - Got a 2nd 510 Mega Battery, since I liked the skinnier battery, but did not realize until today that it needs to be charged more often than the eGo, as it is only 280 mah compared to 900 mah. The mah for this battery is not stated on the website and I didn't know enough to assume it was any different since that was what was sent to me as a replacement for the eGo battery.
- 05/24/11 - Got 5-pack of 510 Clear Dual Coil Mega Cartomizer based on the recommendation from MadVapes. I like these very much since I can see how much liquid is in there, and since I am now an old 'pro' at dripping liquid into cartomizers, prefer this method over the clearomizer mess. Finally feel like I am doing this right, except ... except, I still want a cigarette and don't totally have that satisfaction of smoking. I continue to use this method, mostly with the 510 Mega Battery as I experiment with different liquid flavors (18 mg) and figure I will eventually appreciate and prefer this over smoking.
- 05/24/11 - Ordered another 5-pack of 510 Clear Dual Coil Mega Cartomizer so I would not run out.
- 05/27/11 - Today I learn that my batteries are not really suitable for the Dual Coil Clear Mega Carts. As stated on their site, each cartomizer contains dual 3.2 ohm coils in parallel giving a total resistance of approximately 1.6 ohms. These are meant to be used with 3.7 volt mods with a switch capable of handling 2 or more amps. It was explained to me that could be why I am not getting the smoking vapor sensation I have from cigarettes since the batteries are not high enough to burn these as hot as they should be. Also the eGo cone is too small for these carts. And no, there is no clear cartomizer that fits the eGo.
So, I have spent about $200. I have 3 batteries: 1 eGo and 2 510 Mega and a whole bunch of clear cartomizers that are not really for these batteries. I was told I could up to the RoughStack kit ($75) or the ePower ($46), but I am not wild about spending more money until I know what I am doing.
I think I at least need to get replacement cartomizers and have no clue what good ones are. I am loathe to get those Smok Tech again since they were so bad. I have so all these clear cartomizers, and while I could use the eGo or Mega battery, I have been told it is not going to be that satisfying and also may damage the batteries.
We are on the eve of a long holiday weekend. I am really upset. Wanted to really focus on vaping this weekend, and all I want to do now is smoke. If anyone has advice on what is the best approach to take now, considering what I have already got, I would be most grateful.
Sounds like you like the dual coil cartomizers, so I think you should stick with those.
As much as I hate to say it, that means you're going to need a bigger battery.
I don't really know much about the dual coil cartomizers, so I hope someone comes along who does.
I don't know how much power your batteries will need, but there are two things I am pretty sure about...
--You do NOT want that Roughstack V2 kit that you linked to
--Any 18650 mod should be great with those dual coil cartos
The reason you don't want that Roughstack V2 kit is because it comes with a whole bunch of stuff you don't need.
And that especially includes the batteries, which will give you 6 volts and that is WAY too much for the dual coil cartomizers.
I would just get a Roughstack V2 and an 18650 battery and a 18650 charger.
As much as I hate to say it, that means you're going to need a bigger battery.
I don't really know much about the dual coil cartomizers, so I hope someone comes along who does.
I don't know how much power your batteries will need, but there are two things I am pretty sure about...
--You do NOT want that Roughstack V2 kit that you linked to
--Any 18650 mod should be great with those dual coil cartos
The reason you don't want that Roughstack V2 kit is because it comes with a whole bunch of stuff you don't need.
And that especially includes the batteries, which will give you 6 volts and that is WAY too much for the dual coil cartomizers.
I would just get a Roughstack V2 and an 18650 battery and a 18650 charger.
I probably won't be much help, but I did use dual-coil clear XL cartomizers on a standard Riva battery, which is comparable to an eGo battery. I also used the dual-coil on my REO. The vapor production was the same, but the eGo battery only lasted about an hour of continual vaping, compared to 3 hours of chain vaping on a AW IMR 18650, which makes sense given the mAh for each.
It's true that the dual-coil cartomizers are not recommended for an eGo battery, but they do work. I'm sure they drastically shorten the life of the battery and can probably kill one. They should not cut down the vapor production that noticeably though. A noticeable difference in vapor production on the eGo battery is either that the battery is going dead or the carto is gunked up.
I never tried the dual-coils on a 510 battery, but I have read on a thread that some people did because they didn't care if they killed the battery.
For what it's worth, I use a REO Grand 75% of the time and a Riva (eGo) 25% of the time. Both are equal in vapor and power when using the dual-coil or Boge 2.0 cartomizers. I get longer cartomizers life on the REO. The only thing the REO does for me is give me continual juice and long battery life, which are important to me, but I could easily get by on the Riva. I am a very heavy vaper.
I don't know anything about the Rough Stack, but I am not so sure it is going to be the thing that makes you feel like everything is great. I have a very straight-forward mod (the REO Grand), but I had to buy chemistry batteries for it, a charger, I have to babysit the batteries on the charger, I have to use a multi-meter to check the batteries, I have to make sure I have Noalox on the firing pin to make a good connection, etc., etc., etc.
This is what I would recommend before you move on to bigger stuff:
1. A full kit, such as an eGo or a Riva (2 batteries to have in rotation)
2. A spare battery besides the two in the kit
3. Two boxes of Boge 2.0 cartomizers, with at least 3 of them filled properly at all times, with enough time to soak through
You might as well go ahead and use your eGo battery this weekend because you'll smoke anyway if you don't use it. Fill up a new dual-coil, charge the battery well, and practice vaping. If you can go without smoking while it's recharging, then that's great, if not, oh well - but start vaping again as soon as it is charged. Yes, your battery might give out next month, but you can consider it your learning battery.
It's true that the dual-coil cartomizers are not recommended for an eGo battery, but they do work. I'm sure they drastically shorten the life of the battery and can probably kill one. They should not cut down the vapor production that noticeably though. A noticeable difference in vapor production on the eGo battery is either that the battery is going dead or the carto is gunked up.
I never tried the dual-coils on a 510 battery, but I have read on a thread that some people did because they didn't care if they killed the battery.
For what it's worth, I use a REO Grand 75% of the time and a Riva (eGo) 25% of the time. Both are equal in vapor and power when using the dual-coil or Boge 2.0 cartomizers. I get longer cartomizers life on the REO. The only thing the REO does for me is give me continual juice and long battery life, which are important to me, but I could easily get by on the Riva. I am a very heavy vaper.
I don't know anything about the Rough Stack, but I am not so sure it is going to be the thing that makes you feel like everything is great. I have a very straight-forward mod (the REO Grand), but I had to buy chemistry batteries for it, a charger, I have to babysit the batteries on the charger, I have to use a multi-meter to check the batteries, I have to make sure I have Noalox on the firing pin to make a good connection, etc., etc., etc.
This is what I would recommend before you move on to bigger stuff:
1. A full kit, such as an eGo or a Riva (2 batteries to have in rotation)
2. A spare battery besides the two in the kit
3. Two boxes of Boge 2.0 cartomizers, with at least 3 of them filled properly at all times, with enough time to soak through
You might as well go ahead and use your eGo battery this weekend because you'll smoke anyway if you don't use it. Fill up a new dual-coil, charge the battery well, and practice vaping. If you can go without smoking while it's recharging, then that's great, if not, oh well - but start vaping again as soon as it is charged. Yes, your battery might give out next month, but you can consider it your learning battery.
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