first death from e-cigs!??

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stevegmu

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Any country ham flavored ejuice?

You had to mention country ham when Prague is almost 4 months away... Every morning the farmers bring ham in they butchered the night before. They have kiosks set up where it is slow cooked over beech and cherry wood. You can smell the sweet smoke and ham before you can see the kiosks. Served on a plate or in a box with cheesy potatoes with bacon and a Pilsner Urquell...
 

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The use of the term "oils" is not entirely inaccurate. I was discussing this a few weeks ago with a friend who is both a pharmacist and a food scientist. He wasn't at all familiar with vaping, so we discussed it at length (the baseball game we were watching sucked).

When I told him what was in ejuice, he seemed a bit fascinated. He couldn't think of any red flags concerning the sugar alcohols (PG and VG), and didn't seem concerned about flavors, either (although he did mention diacetyl--one of the bakeries that he does work for had to stop using it). But when I told him that all of the flavorings were water soluble and not oil based, he stopped me there.

He told me that almost all natural flavorings are derived from oils. Oils are the flavor carriers in almost everything we eat. The fact that the flavorings are water soluble is due to the fact that they are emulsified, usually with a polysorbate.

Apparently artificial flavorings are a whole other story...I got lost there...I never liked chemistry class.

Long story short, he couldn't think of any real issues related to vaping, although he was relieved to find out that I'm not using nicotine (I quit smoking a long time ago).

Of course, I never see ingredients lists for most flavorings, since the FDA only requires flavorings to be labeled as either "natural" or "artificial".

Aromatherapists have long used inhaled vaporized oils as therapy. They're not using ecigs to do it (at least not the one across the hall from my office), but inhaled vapor is inhaled vapor, and I'm not hearing of very many aromatherapy deaths.

So, yeah, a lot of y'all (me included) are inhaling vaporized emulsified oils. Doesn't seem to pose any significant health risk. Like my friend says "It's got to be better for you than smoking".
 

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He told me that almost all natural flavorings are derived from oils. Oils are the flavor carriers in almost everything we eat. The fact that the flavorings are water soluble is due to the fact that they are emulsified, usually with a polysorbate.

Good thing the majority of Pre-bottled and DIY is Chemical representation and NOT natural.
A few have been experimenting and several warnings have been mentioned.:thumb:
They do not seem to have a decent shelf life either.

Now attempting Olive oil, etc......:shock:
 
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    You can smell the sweet smoke and ham..
    A while back a friend of mine was letting a friend of his stay at his house. The house guest was an extreme night owl, and he was quickly informed to be quieter when coming in in the wee hours. Once he got yelled at and the guy said, "But I was just making myself some breakfast, and I was making sure to be quiet." To which my buddy replied, "Ya, but you were cooking BACON!" ;)
     

    Rocketpunk

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    I work in a B&M and the majority of nominal users call it "oil".

    "I need to get more oils."

    And tobacco isn't a flavor.

    And they're burners or filters.

    I was on the phone with one lady for 25 minutes trying to figure out why "her fishnets weren't spinning anymore". Beleive me, the Q&A session on that one was fun. Finally it sunk in when she said, "They look like the dang nets my Dad used to use when he was fishing!" It hit me: iClear 16 coils. 25 minutes to figure out they were iClear 16 coils.
     

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    Speaking as a former Pathologist! no I have never, ever heard of someone dying from oily lungs. Period! on the contrary I have PM*d many people dying from too much smoking. As far as Lipoid Pneumonia, no way.

    I find it hard to believe a medical Doctor actually diagnosed this???? maybe a trainee or something?
     
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