First month cost analysis

[X P3 Flight Engineer]

Why does the expense even matter? Do you put a price on your health too? I don't care what I've spent because my health doesn't carry a price tag.

It's about compromise. I could vape a $400 + 24 Karat Gold Plated Provari at 3.7 volts or my $20 kGo pass-through at 3.7 volts. Would I be healthier with the Provari?

If health was put above all else, we would neither smoke nor vape, just like the FDA and HC tell us to. I enjoy the pleasure of vaping and choose the compromise of "harm reduction".

 

[enchantedwonder]

I have had some hits and misses being a newbie...
The Dekang juice I thought I like, then tried BWB and noticed a huge after taste on the dk. I have two more big bottles on the way ;( Some of my 510 cartomizers aren't working, they are just tasting burnt, burnt from the get go, and I've flooded them. Th the prefilled carts w/atomizer seperate are so dry its gross. Maybe I'm doing it wrong. Thee Green smoke is fine for a light smoker and helped me get to where I am now. So did Morganmelz by sending me some leftover Bwb she had. I love my Kgo, and I try small sizes of new juice to save. Still trying to figure it all out.

 

[enchantedwonder]

Without my starter kit, I would have had pnumonia, and wouldn't have found this great community!

 

[RamShot Rowdy]

Vaping is much cheaper for me. I did start vaping in 2010, but fell off the wagon in 2011. So I did have some of the learning curve done when I fully switched back to vaping a week ago. I was a 3 pack/day smoker.

Cost of a pack of cigarettes: $4.75
Cost for 3 months of smoking (90 days): $1282.50

Cost of Mod: $180.00
Evolv Kick: $45.00
Tank: $60.00
Batteries: $8.50 x 4 = $ 34.00 (4 batteries can keep me vaping 24/7)

Cartomizer: $2.50 x 13 = $32.50 (Assuming I burn out one per week.)
Juice: $25.00 x 13 = $325.00 (I use about a 30ml bottle per week, plus $5 for S/H.)

Cost for 3 months Vaping (90 days): $676.50

So unless you make a hobby out of Vaping, it should be cheaper. Vaping is slightly more if I tried to include all shipping and handling. But even with buying a nice mod and accessories, its still around half the price of smoking over a 3 month period.

 

[MissThree33]

I hope I'm not setting myself up for failure on this. I MUST get my costs below what my cigarettes were costing me (about $510 a MONTH! More than my car payment!) I live in Washington where cigs are about 7.50-8.00 a pack! I'm a 1.5-2 pack a day smoker. I've already convinced myself that a PV will get me off the nasty cigs; I really started to HATE them about 8 years ago and I've been a fairly heavy smoker for aprox 28 years. I've started off with a kit (which will be here Wednesday) that has good reviews and good warrantee (V2), and that kit is 4.2 volts, 380 m/A/H. It includes one manual and one auto battery. I know that I'll need to order more batteries probably sooner rather than later. But I REALLY don't want to purchase more than I have planned for already. But, I don't want to fail staying off the nasty cigs either. I don't want vaping to become a hobby--it can't, to be honest, I have an expensive hobby I love already--I want to QUIT everything eventually. I have no spare money to spend, I'm over-extended financially already. It's time to quit the cigs, SOMETHING has to give, and I'm hoping this can really help me toward being free of a dependency that's really consumed and complicated my entire life. After my initial set up, I need to save a few hundred bucks a month or more starting in May. I cannot spend thousands in trial and error, I'd lose my house.

My BF told me tonight that he's going to quit smoking as well. He'll go cold turkey though. He really only smokes about 2 packs a week, maybe three on a particularly crazy week. He often goes for days and days without smoking at all. That's been his habit for 30 years. I wish I had been able to do that over the last 30. IT doesn't make much sense for him to try a PV. I'm confident that he'll be able to do exactly what he says.

I really can't wait for my kit to get here, I really need this to work for me and I need to do it as economically as possible. I think I'm feeling a little panicky tonight--I've also been trying to cut down on my analogs until the kit gets here, I figure it can't hurt, but it's probably not helping my psyche either. haha.

 

[imsoenthused]

I've saved money. Coming up on a year in may. Longer than that if I counted my first failed attempt with my kr808d kit. I figure, conservatively I didn't spend $1500 on cigarettes, and that's if cigarettes cost $5 a pack, which they dont, and that I wasn't lieing to myself when I say I was a pack a day smoker, which I am. If you added up those entire extra packs smoked when I was drinking, and raised that estimate to 1.5 packs, AND tacked on the extra 50-75¢ those packs actually cost me, not to mention the 7-8$ per pack spent buying them at bar prices… I in hindsight can say that consevative estimate is looking down right wishfull. But even if it wasn't, and even if I include the cost of that first attempt, I'd still be solidly in the black by $500 or so dollars. I figure it's probably a lot closer to $2000 saved at this point.

 

[cricque]

Once you got your setup it will go down ... Unless you really really want to try everything there is ... For myself I'll stick with my ego-t/c XL usb batteries and smok ego mega dual cartos. It looks good, i get throat hit, it lasts long, can vape while charing. But I do spend alot on juices for testing and I tried alot of differents cartos/clearomizers etc.. And I found what I need. Perhaps i'll get myself a lavatube, but don't see the point tbh

 

[tidegirl]

I hope I'm not setting myself up for failure on this. I MUST get my costs below what my cigarettes were costing me (about $510 a MONTH! More than my car payment!) I live in Washington where cigs are about 7.50-8.00 a pack! I'm a 1.5-2 pack a day smoker. I've already convinced myself that a PV will get me off the nasty cigs; I really started to HATE them about 8 years ago and I've been a fairly heavy smoker for aprox 28 years. I've started off with a kit (which will be here Wednesday) that has good reviews and good warrantee (V2), and that kit is 4.2 volts, 380 m/A/H. It includes one manual and one auto battery. I know that I'll need to order more batteries probably sooner rather than later. But I REALLY don't want to purchase more than I have planned for already. But, I don't want to fail staying off the nasty cigs either. I don't want vaping to become a hobby--it can't, to be honest, I have an expensive hobby I love already--I want to QUIT everything eventually. I have no spare money to spend, I'm over-extended financially already. It's time to quit the cigs, SOMETHING has to give, and I'm hoping this can really help me toward being free of a dependency that's really consumed and complicated my entire life. After my initial set up, I need to save a few hundred bucks a month or more starting in May. I cannot spend thousands in trial and error, I'd lose my house.

My BF told me tonight that he's going to quit smoking as well. He'll go cold turkey though. He really only smokes about 2 packs a week, maybe three on a particularly crazy week. He often goes for days and days without smoking at all. That's been his habit for 30 years. I wish I had been able to do that over the last 30. IT doesn't make much sense for him to try a PV. I'm confident that he'll be able to do exactly what he says.

I really can't wait for my kit to get here, I really need this to work for me and I need to do it as economically as possible. I think I'm feeling a little panicky tonight--I've also been trying to cut down on my analogs until the kit gets here, I figure it can't hurt, but it's probably not helping my psyche either. haha.

STOP! Take a deep cleansing breath. Count to ten. Now, doesn't that feel better?

Now, don't put so much pressure on yourself. This is so easy and can be so successful. There are many approaches to making the change. What worked for me was to look at it as a gradual change. I bought on a whim, decided I would try it, but if I wanted to smoke, I would smoke, and I would get there in time. I think that is what made the difference more than anything between this and all my other failed attempts. This may not work for you though- you know yourself so you can decide.

2 380 mah batts for a 2 PAD smoker will get you started, but you are right, you will probably need more pretty soon. However, batts can be relatively cheap, and after you spend a few weeks or so with your V2s you will know if they are gonna cut it or if you need something a little more. You will not have to buy whole new kits- just pick up some mroe batts.

I have spent $578 on vaping since 12/16/11 (roughly the same as what I would have spent smoking- it goes up and down a little but just happens to be even today), so you can definitely do this, and come out much cheaper. And BTW, look below- that $578 includes a mod. You will have no problem saving money with vaping. Find a juice you really like for your main vape, and then you can pick up 1-2 more from time to time to add to your collection. Finding good juices can be the biggest challenge.

You can do this! Remember, we are here to help in any way we can. {{{hugs}}}

 

[hairball]

It matters, to me, because of two little words: sin tax. I'm fed up with the entire matter of imposing ever increasing sin taxes on cigarettes, with pols knowing full well they can raise funds for pet projects or general funds by taxing a legally addictive substance. While at the same time blathering the tax will "make" people quit smoking, it's "for the children" and all that jazz. They promise all the tax increase will go to smoking cessation programs and hardly a pittance of the taxes ever does.

You will never hear me say that smoking is a good thing. But the abuse of foisting tax increase upon tax increase on a very difficult to break legally addictive substance is as bad as the addiction itself.

I don't see spending money on e-cigs as some kind of a health benefit. Vaping is better than the alternative, but we are still very far away from being able to claim this is actually a healthy thing to do. I view it as a necessary method to combat an addiction to a product that should have never been marketed to begin with.

Our health already had a price tag on it when we started smoking. It continues to carry a price tag while we are vaping to stay away from smoking. "None of the above" would be the ideal choice. But we all aren't hanging around in this forum because that's happening.

I have to agree that smoking isn't something anyone should do but we did, and now we pay for it. The point I was getting at was, why does it matter what it costs to get started or what a person spends in a month. It always seems to be a topic on this forum. I don't place a price tag on myself for feeling better and being able to do now, what I couldn't do 2 years ago. I could care less what it cost me to switch to a better alternative. I'm not trying to start a ruckus, just trying to clarify what I was getting at.

As for the sin tax, if I or you never discovered vaping, we would still be smoking. I'd pay the tax, like you, and not complain about it even though it chaps our cheeks.

 

[mafig]

stop counting the cost of vaping..every single cent U spent or will spend on electronic cigarette & accessories add days longer in yr life span,i am convince after 30+yrs on analogs..i am more worried if i cannot get hold of e-cig and accessories..hence i make sure i have enough backups..photos i show U..one year into vaping and these are all I "throwaway" in hardwares plus a few like misplaced and lost(from the photo of my usage,i dont think i overspent)..the other is my hoard of backups with enough e-liquids to last me at least 2 years as I DIY my own juices..any1 for durian flavors?..happy vaping every1..regards mafig

 

[Malduk]

The point I was getting at was, why does it matter what it costs to get started or what a person spends in a month. It always seems to be a topic on this forum. I don't place a price tag on myself for feeling better and being able to do now, what I couldn't do 2 years ago.

Because most people don't have infinite funds, and they care. Some are forced to care and keep track. Most people don't have the luxury to say "oh this is good, gimme no matter how much it costs".

 

[Malduk]

I hope I'm not setting myself up for failure on this. I MUST get my costs below what my cigarettes were costing me (about $510 a MONTH! More than my car payment!) I live in Washington where cigs are about 7.50-8.00 a pack! I'm a 1.5-2 pack a day smoker. I've already convinced myself that a PV will get me off the nasty cigs; I really started to HATE them about 8 years ago and I've been a fairly heavy smoker for aprox 28 years. I've started off with a kit (which will be here Wednesday) that has good reviews and good warrantee (V2), and that kit is 4.2 volts, 380 m/A/H. It includes one manual and one auto battery. I know that I'll need to order more batteries probably sooner rather than later. But I REALLY don't want to purchase more than I have planned for already. But, I don't want to fail staying off the nasty cigs either. I don't want vaping to become a hobby--it can't, to be honest, I have an expensive hobby I love already--I want to QUIT everything eventually. I have no spare money to spend, I'm over-extended financially already. It's time to quit the cigs, SOMETHING has to give, and I'm hoping this can really help me toward being free of a dependency that's really consumed and complicated my entire life. After my initial set up, I need to save a few hundred bucks a month or more starting in May. I cannot spend thousands in trial and error, I'd lose my house.

My BF told me tonight that he's going to quit smoking as well. He'll go cold turkey though. He really only smokes about 2 packs a week, maybe three on a particularly crazy week. He often goes for days and days without smoking at all. That's been his habit for 30 years. I wish I had been able to do that over the last 30. IT doesn't make much sense for him to try a PV. I'm confident that he'll be able to do exactly what he says.

I really can't wait for my kit to get here, I really need this to work for me and I need to do it as economically as possible. I think I'm feeling a little panicky tonight--I've also been trying to cut down on my analogs until the kit gets here, I figure it can't hurt, but it's probably not helping my psyche either. haha.

Well, some people have to spend quite a few bucks before they find "what works for them". I know I spent waaay more than I thought I would.
But if you have the money issue, and you kinda need it to work - it will work. Your nicotine addiction will be satisfied. Way back when I started with vaping, my initial juices were horrible. I hated them. For the first week, I just had to vape them while I was waiting for the new batch of juices to arrive, and even though I was a heavy smoker, I managed to get through that first week without the cigarette.

You most definitely will need new batteries, as 380 mAh don't last that long, and then there are juices (eliquid). You might be lucky to stumble upon something you really like really fast, or you may spend some cash trying to find your good vape. My suggestion would be to simply buy in small batches flavors from different vendors until you find what works for you.
Another thing I notice a lot with people that are new to vaping is that most, if not all, start with all tobacco flavors. I myself still enjoy tobacco flavors, but they are NOT anything like a cigarette. So don't be afraid to experiment a bit with juices, as that wild strawberry just might be your favorite.

 

[WVvet]

I hope I'm not setting myself up for failure on this. I MUST get my costs below what my cigarettes were costing me (about $510 a MONTH! More than my car payment!) I live in Washington where cigs are about 7.50-8.00 a pack! I'm a 1.5-2 pack a day smoker. I've already convinced myself that a PV will get me off the nasty cigs; I really started to HATE them about 8 years ago and I've been a fairly heavy smoker for aprox 28 years. I've started off with a kit (which will be here Wednesday) that has good reviews and good warrantee (V2), and that kit is 4.2 volts, 380 m/A/H. It includes one manual and one auto battery. I know that I'll need to order more batteries probably sooner rather than later. But I REALLY don't want to purchase more than I have planned for already. But, I don't want to fail staying off the nasty cigs either. I don't want vaping to become a hobby--it can't, to be honest, I have an expensive hobby I love already--I want to QUIT everything eventually. I have no spare money to spend, I'm over-extended financially already. It's time to quit the cigs, SOMETHING has to give, and I'm hoping this can really help me toward being free of a dependency that's really consumed and complicated my entire life. After my initial set up, I need to save a few hundred bucks a month or more starting in May. I cannot spend thousands in trial and error, I'd lose my house.

My BF told me tonight that he's going to quit smoking as well. He'll go cold turkey though. He really only smokes about 2 packs a week, maybe three on a particularly crazy week. He often goes for days and days without smoking at all. That's been his habit for 30 years. I wish I had been able to do that over the last 30. IT doesn't make much sense for him to try a PV. I'm confident that he'll be able to do exactly what he says.

I really can't wait for my kit to get here, I really need this to work for me and I need to do it as economically as possible. I think I'm feeling a little panicky tonight--I've also been trying to cut down on my analogs until the kit gets here, I figure it can't hurt, but it's probably not helping my psyche either. haha.

OK just breathe...don't panic you will do this and save a bundle! Just stick with your V2 for at least three months. Buy only small samples of juice and try to find one you can stick with at least initially (your taste buds will go through MANY changes over the months to come). I never bought another carton of cigs after I got my "worthless starter kit", although I did finish off the few packs I had left. I hope you are starting with a 24 mg juice - that seems to be the best for most. Good luck and hopefully you will be as surprised as I was how easy this is!

 

[tidegirl]

+1 for trying some non tobaccos. I knew I did not want tobacco flavors. I hated the taste of smoking, and the reason I decided to try PVs was that I saw a local shop's commercial and noticed all the juice bottles, which made me think maybe they have flavors... So I started with pomegranate blackberry blueberry, added some other fruit flavors, bubble gum, and I have tried the sweets, but they just get sickening sweet to me even though I LOVE sugar. Also started making some spearmint, and got some menthol to vape alone and mix with other flavors.

 

[rober36]

Tne first couple of months have been expensive but i happy to sped the money. I wish i would have created a spreadshhet like this. After buying enough to try everything and finding what works i think it will be far cheaper than analogs.

 

[foutouristas]

my first month of vaping cost me approximately about 90 euros (~120$) for the purchase of an expensive starter's kit and e-liquids locally. IMO, vaping can cost you as much as you like, most users could maybe be fine with about 40-60$/month in a regular basis.

 

[cricque]

Yeah, if you got your setup that works for you then you spend just money on liquids or stuff for DIY and cartos ... And that doesn't have to be expensive

 

[Bullmastiffguy]

I agree that the first month is expensive. I used to spend $300 on analogs a month, and I have spent about $600 in just over a month on supplies to vape, and I figure I am good for the next year, saving me about $3000, unless I order a VV which I want next, and I will still be ahead on savings from analogs. It's a win win in my books.

 

[Koman]

Thanks a lot for the detailed analysis.