FlüXomizer CE2-X IN STOCK!

[daisyd]

I know that some companies don't want a product back when they need to send you a replacement, but it is PERFECTLY reasonable of GotVapes to ask that you send it back before they send you a replacement, especially since they offered to cover your shipping. Here's my one question to you. If you knew about this problem 2 weeks ago, why didn't you check them before you started cutting them? It's easy enough to gently lift the wicks out of the tube with a paperclip to check them. Then you would still have them in new, unused condition. I'm sorry but that's just being a smart consumer. I save the packaging and reciept on electronics until I know that they work. That way I can return them easily if they don't. I personally don't want to pay any vendor the time to check each and every carto they get in a shipment. I would rather cross that bridge when I get to it, so to speak.
Also, why is this such a big deal to you, if you don't mind using the old ones? Personally, I saw your intitial post in the GotVapes subforum, and bought some of the black CE2-X's knowing that they might be the old style. That's what I do my research for. Honestly, these guys are willing to work with you, so they are not being unethical. IF they had deleted your comments, and denied any of this had happened, THAT would have been unethical. They have been very transparent about this. It's things like this that have kept me from promoting my own interent business (totally unrelated to e-cigs). I just don't have it in me to deal with people when they overreact.

 

[Credo]

All I'm gonna say is that I've made a few orders with gotvapes.com over the months and they've done a good job for a fair and competitive price. One thing they do very well is bring to light some of the newer products and options out there, and they attempt to keep us informed on what's to come in the next batch. They spend a lot of time and money working with their suppliers to work out the bugs and maybe get first shot at stocking some of the stuff.

That comes with a trade off. By being among first to stock things, they also take a bit more of a risk than a supplier that might choose to 'see how it goes' before stocking up on something.

Bottom line:
If they send me something that works, and I keep it (even if it's not what I intended to order)...I'd expect to pay for it!

It all sounds reasonable to me.

 

[SmokingRT]

I know that some companies don't want a product back when they need to send you a replacement, but it is PERFECTLY reasonable of GotVapes to ask that you send it back before they send you a replacement, especially since they offered to cover your shipping. Here's my one question to you. If you knew about this problem 2 weeks ago, why didn't you check them before you started cutting them? It's easy enough to gently lift the wicks out of the tube with a paperclip to check them. Then you would still have them in new, unused condition. I'm sorry but that's just being a smart consumer. I save the packaging and reciept on electronics until I know that they work. That way I can return them easily if they don't. I personally don't want to pay any vendor the time to check each and every carto they get in a shipment. I would rather cross that bridge when I get to it, so to speak.
Also, why is this such a big deal to you, if you don't mind using the old ones? Personally, I saw your intitial post in the GotVapes subforum, and bought some of the black CE2-X's knowing that they might be the old style. That's what I do my research for. Honestly, these guys are willing to work with you, so they are not being unethical. IF they had deleted your comments, and denied any of this had happened, THAT would have been unethical. They have been very transparent about this. It's things like this that have kept me from promoting my own interent business (totally unrelated to e-cigs). I just don't have it in me to deal with people when they overreact.

Thanks daisyd.... as a newer customer of GV ( I am the newer customer) I have to say thank you for saying what I was thinking. These two have been there for me since before I was a customer, it is for this reason I believe they actually care about us and the future of ecigs. I have had some unethical vendor dealings since coming to this ecig lifestyle and they are not them by along shot.

 

[daisyd]

I've only ordered from them once. My package should be here today. I'm just starting to get really annoyed with all of the vendor bashing going on lately. We have a very unique dinamic here on ECF where we can have full on relationships with our vendors, but I think some people take advantage of that. Any time something doesn't go exactly the way someone wants they expect the vendor to grovel at their feet and beg for forgiveness. Maybe, as a small business owner myself, I see things differently. I just think there's a difference between expecting excellent CS and being just plain abusive. I am not immune to venting my frustrations at a company, I just don't think people realize what a negative impact this kind of public display has.

 

[juicefreak]

i like gotvapes. great CS. Just send them back and get replacements or if it's too much bother, then drop it would be my suggestion to the person that got the old wicks.

i got tired of waiting for the newer style from GV's, so i ordered elsewhere (stainless ones) that were also supposed to be the fat wick and they weren't. I ordered 2 boxes expecting the new wicks, so i won't order again. As someone else said, I could buy 5 reg atties for that price and be good to go for months, not weeks.

i've popped 2 of them dry burning. NEVER had that trouble with a Fluxo EvER. Ticked me off, so i don't know if the coil is different in the non-clearos (a 2.8-3.0 ohm one) or that GV's has much better QC.

Danno i prefer to buy from you if you have stock when i need them. Can you guarantee that your stainless CE2's will have the new fat wicks? It's a ..... to cut them to see and as much as i like fluxo's, the base on them sux, so i prefer to cut the metal ones. if PS would beef up their metal base to support the tube like a cut metal CE2 it would alleviate all of their issues. That O ring on the bottom of the fluxos can only handle a couple X rocking off the tube, before it stretches out and can't be reseated. if they designed a metal base to come up the side just enough to cover that ring, they would be golden.

once i know RS isn't pushing old stock of the thin wicks, i'll order again... from gotvapes.

Oh yeah my thin wick ones had the same production date on the box as the pic on this thread. Also had a black mouthpiece. As i said, from a different vendor. Sounds like RS is screwing all their vendors.

Also, i found that my juice turns horrid dark from the very first fill and even after washing/dry burning with the CE2 stainless in a Syringe mod not the original stainless tank. those stainless tanks tasted too nasty to vape them straight lol

.... because ppl on this thread mentioned the same prob with the new fluxo's, do you think they could have changed their coils too? I can put up with a lot with these things for the convenience of having a full tank of juice, but turning great juice to dark nasty on the first fill, i can't put up with. I want to make my own map tank, but the thought of more ML's of juice to sit there and turn black is just too eww lol.

gawd i hope they are not screwing around with a good coil. that's what the CE2's have had going for them. COIL strength = the ability to dry burn and clean it up like new. The coils I got on the 3/16/2011 production date (again ....NOT from GV's) are total crap.

please advise on a guarantee of new wicks in your black and stainless CE2's in your present or next shipment so i can order. thx!

 

[Credo]

As someone else said, I could buy 5 reg atties for that price and be good to go for months, not weeks.

I seriously want to know where to get five 510 atties for 6 - 12 bucks!

Please share the info

 

[hellcatrydr]

Before I check out of this thread Dan, I wanna say that while I've lost respect for you, (because you continued it for 2 weeks after you found out.) I HAVE developed an arcane admiration for your ability to cultivate loyalty and ethics tolerance from your customers.

I raised this seller honesty issue for obvious reasons.
But between the responses on the Open Letter thread and the PM's I received, I would estimate the members opinions at about 50/50. Fully HALF seem to have no problem with your business tactics; and only about 50% have expressed agreement that your 2 weeks of profit by deception is no big deal, and that my reaction is unreasonable. Definitely not what I expected.
I am officially done urging members (and mods, BTW) to share my truth expectations.


My doctor says that I have a malformed public duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fibre and that I am therefore excused from saving universes...
Ford Perfect.

 

[dannoman]

Just one more note on this and this matter is closed. As soon as we found out that some of the Black XL 3.0-3.2 FLüXomizers had some of the old style wick in them we responded. This was an issue that was just brought up to us by you and one other customer and we took care of both right away, we didn't sit on it for two weeks...we were just informed of it very recently and we took care of it.

You were offered a refund on the product plus shipping. We simply can't do more than that.

Do not belabor this anymore, calling us dishonest, etc., or Chris or myself will have to delete the posts and make the Mods aware of the problem. This is a public forum and Chris and I practically put our blood, sweat and tears into all of this. Do not take lightly using such libelous language in the emotion of the moment. This is a fair warning.

Before I check out of this thread Dan, I wanna say that while I've lost respect for you, (because you continued it for 2 weeks after you found out.) I HAVE developed an arcane admiration for your ability to cultivate loyalty and ethics tolerance from your customers.

I raised this seller honesty issue for obvious reasons.
But between the responses on the Open Letter thread and the PM's I received, I would estimate the members opinions at about 50/50. Fully HALF seem to have no problem with your business tactics; and only about 50% have expressed agreement that your 2 weeks of profit by deception is no big deal, and that my reaction is unreasonable. Definitely not what I expected.
I am officially done urging members (and mods, BTW) to share my truth expectations.


My doctor says that I have a malformed public duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fibre and that I am therefore excused from saving universes...
Ford Perfect.

 

[badkolo]

Before I check out of this thread Dan, I wanna say that while I've lost respect for you, (because you continued it for 2 weeks after you found out.) I HAVE developed an arcane admiration for your ability to cultivate loyalty and ethics tolerance from your customers.

I raised this seller honesty issue for obvious reasons.
But between the responses on the Open Letter thread and the PM's I received, I would estimate the members opinions at about 50/50. Fully HALF seem to have no problem with your business tactics; and only about 50% have expressed agreement that your 2 weeks of profit by deception is no big deal, and that my reaction is unreasonable. Definitely not what I expected.
I am officially done urging members (and mods, BTW) to share my truth expectations.


My doctor says that I have a malformed public duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fibre and that I am therefore excused from saving universes...
Ford Perfect.

I dont believe a word your saying, your thread got closed because others find issues with your lies, you made accusations that you have no clue about, why dont you let us post our email with you on the forum, you had the options we noted and you decided to go on a rant as if you spent 10000000 dollars on a pack of cartos that we asked for you to return for a replacement at our cost, we know how we run our business and our cs is exceptional but what your doing is called lying plain and simple .

Take your false accusations elsewhere because we our done with you, we love of our customers but we dont need to take crap from you, whats the name of the other vendor you supposedly bought from but FORGOT to mention when you went on your scathing escapade.

Im not even sure if your a regular customer since you sound more like a plant from another vendor I won't mention here but like I said since you obviously have issues and you sure have no idea how to communicate with people then we kindly say goodbye.

I have been involved with the ce2 since july and trust me you wont tarnish our names, my name or others with your petty lies. Now you might have received a pack of old wicks and you could of brought it up to us to exchange them, which you did and we offered a full refund with shipping costs, and we have your emails that we would love for everyone to read.

When it was brought to our attention it was dealt with but in no way will I open up 4000 packs to see if a few have issues, that wont happen.

So I will say this again, I dont believe you I dont trust fully your story and its motivations and Personaly I have no respect for you. You have some cohonas pulling what your pulling but it will be dealt with.

 

[spike39]

Before I check out of this thread Dan, I wanna say that while I've lost respect for you, (because you continued it for 2 weeks after you found out.) I HAVE developed an arcane admiration for your ability to cultivate loyalty and ethics tolerance from your customers.

I raised this seller honesty issue for obvious reasons.
But between the responses on the Open Letter thread and the PM's I received, I would estimate the members opinions at about 50/50. Fully HALF seem to have no problem with your business tactics; and only about 50% have expressed agreement that your 2 weeks of profit by deception is no big deal, and that my reaction is unreasonable. Definitely not what I expected.
I am officially done urging members (and mods, BTW) to share my truth expectations.


My doctor says that I have a malformed public duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fibre and that I am therefore excused from saving universes...
Ford Perfect.

WOW dude..

I don't get it. You were offered a full refund and shipping at the vendor's cost.

I don't see how any retailer/vendor/company can do anything more for you.

 

[badkolo]

WOW dude..

I don't get it. You were offered a full refund and shipping at the vendor's cost.

I don't see how any retailer/vendor/company can do anything more for you.

Its simple, read his rant and read inbetween the lines, Like I said his motivation for this is beyond fishy.

i wonder if he wrote philip morris scathing letters with each packs of stoges he bought that was killing him, i doubt it because Like i said there is more to this then a simple issue with a pack of carts and it WILL BE DEALT WITH.


What are the names of these other vendors you claim you bought from since you did say you want to mention names but only mentioned ours. Keep your lies coming I have all day to deal with you.

So this Girl you bought from took 2 weeks to respond to you yet you dont even have a issue with that person since you wont mention their name but We told you immediately we would solve your issue and instantly you incredibly blast our name with lies attached to it the following day after handling you and YET you still haven't mentioned anyones name but ours. SIR im finding your story a little hard to swallow. There seems to be more holes in your story then a honeycomb.

 

[daisyd]

i wonder if he wrote philip morris scathing letters with each packs of stoges he bought that was killing him, i doubt it because Like i said there is more to this then a simple issue with a pack of carts and it WILL BE DEALT WITH.

We think a lot alike. I was going to say this to him in the other thread, but it got closed while I was typing.

Did anyone else notice that his AV is of Sisyphus? The ultimate con man of Greek Mythology? Seemed appropriate to me...

 

[SmokingRT]

So as not to add to the fodder of this troll ..... I will say this and be done. Chris, Danno,those that have come on here to bring a grievance (I think I even did once) are dealt with respect and good customer service and almost all (you can not please everyone) have come back with reports of your good customer service and response. I have personally blocked this TROLL and will no longer have to read his blather. I know there are those that once again will call me fanboy but here is the thing I have been called that about every vendor that has treated me well..... there have been a good amount of them in the ecig world. The funny thing to me is I usually have not even liked there product all that much it was alway about there CS that I commented about. We are blessed to have so many vendors that do care. People have become insane about these things ..... If I like you and am willing to defend you based on my experience I am a fan boy..... If my experience was really bad (and BTW I would never post that directly on their site I start a new thread somewhere else) I am a hater. BE NICE ..... BE HONEST ..... we are all in this together. This forum (ECF) is suppose to have honest reviews and be fun. People need to stop BIT**N just to BIT*H. <steps off soap box>
Thank you that will be all

 

[Big Hitter]

Its simple, read his rant and read inbetween the lines, Like I said his motivation for this is beyond fishy.

I agree, I know its hard but don't let him get to you guys.

I find it funny his time is worth $100 dolllars an hour and he doesn't want to waste money driving to the PO ... but he can spend hours composing and spewing garbage about a solid supplier all over the forum(s)

 

[pineappledan]

Man that guy needs an analog!

 

[pixproff]

I did not know that the other thread had been closed. I was waiting for him to respond to my comment so I could have some fun with him.

 

[daisyd]

Angus gave him a good swat and closed it. He would have deleted it if Danno hadn't been able to get over there and set the record straight. I kept hitting Post Quick Reply and nothing was happening.

 

[zoiDman]

Man that guy needs an analog!

ROTFLMAO... Can’t really understand what all the fuss is about?

If I get a bad product and the seller offers to replace it And include shipping, well, that’s about as good as it gets. If everyone is sold out because of some Chinese holiday or the manufacture can’t keep up with demand, I can’t really hold it against the retailer.

But that is what it seems like it gets down to. A person who is mad at MiT/RS products and take it out on gotvapes. How can gotvapes, or any other retailer know what is going on inside a Carto without breaking the seal and taking it apart? And Nobody is going to buy Cartos that aren’t sealed.

I keep buying from gotvapes because I know how deeply Bad has been involved in making the E2 a better product line.

 

[MsBree]

man that guy needs an analog!

rotflmao!!!!!!!!!!

 

[bladebarrier]

I noticed that my post was included in his/her complaint post, so I would just like to add clarification.

I explicitly stated that I know another vendor had the same problem of receiving a mixed stock, and I knowingly accepted that risk when purchasing here.

I also stated that I wasn't overly upset, as I could use the rev 4's in my MAP tank anyways. Sure I was disappointed, but I'm an adult, and frankly, I'll get over it. It was a $12 purchase, for heaven's sake.

I also received a fast response from badkolo, who looked into the issue.

I'm sure if I had asked for a swap, that would have been granted, but for me it wasn't an issue.

I ordered a new pack already, and asked that they be taken from the opened ones that were checked after my post, as I trust the vendor to not send rejected ones, and not have to take a loss by opening ones while checking into my order.

Anyways, I just thought I would throw that out there. I'm not angry or upset, and I was a bit shocked to see my post quoted as someone who is, by someone I've never even seen in on ECF before. I'm not saying his issue isn't relevant, either, but I didn't want anyone to take my post as a rant, but merely an informative post to ensure that the vendor has the appropriate information to address any future issues with their supplier.

Thanks!

--bb