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After reading all 15 pages of stuff, I will now go out of my way to purchase from GotVapes.
My how some people are really such a pain in the (you know what).
I was wondering, I am currently using the 808 Ver4 regular CE2's at a 2.8-3.0 ohm rating.
I see you have the lowest resistance ones (2.4-2.6ohm) but I feel those would be a little on the warm side for me. Knowing as this was asked earlier on this thread, when might you get the CE2-X CLEAR KR808 XL 1.8ml 2.6-2.8ohm version in? Although those are warmer then the ones I am currently using I feel that they should not be a night and day difference in operation.
Not in a big hurry but would like to try out the new ones especially the XL version.
Also the replacement tubes you have listed on your site - are these the newer thicker version or the thinner older version?
My how some people are really such a pain in the (you know what).
I was wondering, I am currently using the 808 Ver4 regular CE2's at a 2.8-3.0 ohm rating.
I see you have the lowest resistance ones (2.4-2.6ohm) but I feel those would be a little on the warm side for me. Knowing as this was asked earlier on this thread, when might you get the CE2-X CLEAR KR808 XL 1.8ml 2.6-2.8ohm version in? Although those are warmer then the ones I am currently using I feel that they should not be a night and day difference in operation.
Not in a big hurry but would like to try out the new ones especially the XL version.
Also the replacement tubes you have listed on your site - are these the newer thicker version or the thinner older version?
Thanks for the reply.
I will wait for the newer ones for sure and as it sits I am waiting for the new CE2-X. I have quite a few modified with the the 3ml syringe but it is getting to be a pain (never know when one is going to crack - original not mod.)
By the way I was able to find BD3ml syringes at my local CVS pharmacy at around .25c each. Still would rather use an OEM version - less hassle.
I fell you on that one. I ordered one of those BD's with an order from someone else just in case. So far what I've done is if I get leaking from cracks, and there's still some juice, I put some clear packing tape on it, then slide a little shrink tube sleeve I made over that. Then I just replace it once it's empty. I don't have the patience to mess with the syringe mod. Plus it won't fit in the PCC slot either...
Just got two boxes yesterday, 510 threads @ 2.4ohms
Black metal XL...no clue what's inside them but I loaded one right out of the box with FluX 60/33/7/normal Peach/Tobacco.
Vapes like a champ from KR808D-1 w/adapter and eGo XL batteries. I didn't have to tweak it at all....filled it and puffed. Yummm!
Also got some green clearos at 2.4ohms. I haven't even opened one yet to look at it.
Have read that some have thicker sleeves and 501/808 drip tips might not fit them. Was it 306 that fits?
On clearos...some juices will eat the clear sleeves. Cinnamon...some of the tangy fruity ones. Possibly high alcohol ones. See the RoyalSmoker website for more info on this PV issue.
On previous revisions I never had any problems replacing the stock PV sleeves with a cut down 3ml syringe if it cracked or the juice was too acidic for them. The attys and wicks in these things are too good to waste over a cracked sleeve
Black metal XL...no clue what's inside them but I loaded one right out of the box with FluX 60/33/7/normal Peach/Tobacco.
Vapes like a champ from KR808D-1 w/adapter and eGo XL batteries. I didn't have to tweak it at all....filled it and puffed. Yummm!
Also got some green clearos at 2.4ohms. I haven't even opened one yet to look at it.
Have read that some have thicker sleeves and 501/808 drip tips might not fit them. Was it 306 that fits?
On clearos...some juices will eat the clear sleeves. Cinnamon...some of the tangy fruity ones. Possibly high alcohol ones. See the RoyalSmoker website for more info on this PV issue.
On previous revisions I never had any problems replacing the stock PV sleeves with a cut down 3ml syringe if it cracked or the juice was too acidic for them. The attys and wicks in these things are too good to waste over a cracked sleeve
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Just got two boxes yesterday, 510 threads @ 2.4ohms
Black metal XL...no clue what's inside them but I loaded one right out of the box with FluX 60/33/7/normal Peach/Tobacco.
Vapes like a champ from KR808D-1 w/adapter and eGo XL batteries. I didn't have to tweak it at all....filled it and puffed. Yummm!
Also got some green clearos at 2.4ohms. I haven't even opened one yet to look at it.
Have read that some have thicker sleeves and 501/808 drip tips might not fit them. Was it 306 that fits?
On clearos...some juices will eat the clear sleeves. Cinnamon...some of the tangy fruity ones. Possibly high alcohol ones. See the RoyalSmoker website for more info on this PV issue.
On previous revisions I never had any problems replacing the stock PV sleeves with a cut down 3ml syringe if it cracked or the juice was too acidic for them. The attys and wicks in these things are too good to waste over a cracked sleeve
Credo,
I agree but daisyd pretty much said it all. Come on these things are not that expensive. However hate having to replace one just because I cracked it by messing around with it. Sure it is fairy easy to cut down a syringe but I found out if you do not taper the end you push over the threaded end, you might cut the small seal at the bottom. Won't leak right away but make a mess on a dress shirt at work.
I like the old adage I say to myself all the time.... K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid). These things are no more expensive than a cartomizer and to be honest, I have not had to throw out one yet due to burning it out. I have never been able to dry burn an atomizer, much less a cart. Kind of like the energizer bunny - keeps going and going....
As far as the lower ohm, I really like the hit I get off the 2.8-3.0 ohm. That being said, I do not think the low resistance ones are for me. I already have a box full of atomizers, cartomizers, mods and other things that I will probably never use. My main thing is the extra long as I tend to refill the regular ones quite frequently.
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I hear ya Mac...
I never use Clearo's on anything I'll be putting in a pocket or purse. I use the metal ones for that
I keep clearos at home where my PV is always either in my hand, or sitting upright in a drinking glass/mug within easy reach.
I never use Clearo's on anything I'll be putting in a pocket or purse. I use the metal ones for that
I keep clearos at home where my PV is always either in my hand, or sitting upright in a drinking glass/mug within easy reach.
On the next shipment for the remainder of our Feb order we should have more, but not sure, they kind of screwwed that order up royally.
But we also have a new March order comign they SAY is shipping the 18th...
note: the next shipment they already said they shipped so I am waiting for a tracking number for it...
But we also have a new March order comign they SAY is shipping the 18th...
note: the next shipment they already said they shipped so I am waiting for a tracking number for it...
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Mac,
Ya probably already knew this but just in case:
One can use the 510 stuff on KR808 batteries with an adapter. When one type is out...I often order the other kind and use adapters amongst various batteries.
GotVapes has adapters from 808/901 to 510 on the website. Those will do the trick
Ya probably already knew this but just in case:
One can use the 510 stuff on KR808 batteries with an adapter. When one type is out...I often order the other kind and use adapters amongst various batteries.
GotVapes has adapters from 808/901 to 510 on the website. Those will do the trick
I seriously want to know where to get five 510 atties for 6 - 12 bucks!
Please share the info
no need to be rude. did i say 5 atties for $12? NO. but for the 12.95 for XL's and 9.95 for reg size steel's plus shipping, i could have bought 4-5 RN4075's from heaven-gifts.com that would have lasted me months. I don't even LIKE 510 atties, but i'm sure heaven-gifts has similar pricing on those also
my point was, a box of dud coils, wicks that fall apart, and tubes that crack or you have to mod them yourself to work right, do not last as long as a regular atomizer, no matter the style atomizer. in that respect, the guy that was .....ing about not getting the advertised fat wick CE2-X's, probably wouldn't have ordered them to begin with if he had known they were the old thin wick versions. I know i wouldn't have... certainly not 2 boxes of them.
that's why the many ppl who have tried the Ce2's in earlier incarnations would never try them again and think they are total crap. I would like to see them improve and become what they are hyped to be and nothing more... I don't buy into hype, mislabeled products, etc, nor should anyone else be expected to. been vaping 2 yrs so i've btdt.
hey danno. i asked this is my earlier post, but don't see an answer to my question about will the metal or black ones be guaranteed to have the fat wick from PS? thx.
He bought one box and the only FLüXo's that we know had that old style wick were the XL BLACK 3.0-3.2...we cheerfully offered him a refund plus shipping.
The one thing the ce2's are known for is durability of the coils, the fact that you can dry-burn them time after time and they hold up. Did you get some with dud coils? If you did that would be a rare exception.
With all that said I totally understand that you may prefer atomizers...
The one thing the ce2's are known for is durability of the coils, the fact that you can dry-burn them time after time and they hold up. Did you get some with dud coils? If you did that would be a rare exception.
With all that said I totally understand that you may prefer atomizers...
no need to be rude. did i say 5 atties for $12? NO. but for the 12.95 for XL's and 9.95 for reg size steel's plus shipping, i could have bought 4-5 RN4075's from heaven-gifts.com that would have lasted me months. I don't even LIKE 510 atties, but i'm sure heaven-gifts has similar pricing on those also
my point was, a box of dud coils, wicks that fall apart, and tubes that crack or you have to mod them yourself to work right, do not last as long as a regular atomizer, no matter the style atomizer. in that respect, the guy that was .....ing about not getting the advertised fat wick CE2-X's, probably wouldn't have ordered them to begin with if he had known they were the old thin wick versions. I know i wouldn't have... certainly not 2 boxes of them.
that's why the many ppl who have tried the Ce2's in earlier incarnations would never try them again and think they are total crap. I would like to see them improve and become what they are hyped to be and nothing more... I don't buy into hype, mislabeled products, etc, nor should anyone else be expected to. been vaping 2 yrs so i've btdt.
Thanks for that question...we are going to try to make sure we can check these but its a difficult task. What we have done in the meantime is reduce the price of the present XL Blacks 3.0-3.2 with a caveat to the customer that they may have the old style wicks. They are still good CE2's but we reduced the price on them by a dollar if you don't mind the chance that you may be getting the older style wicks in this particular ohm range...
dan, how many months do you think we'll have to wait to be assured of the new fat wick in the steel and black ones? i realize PS is sending out the old style and i'm not interested in them at any price, so i'm willing to wait. I thought you guys had a direct line to them or something with all the innovations you have made in their product, so i figured you would know? my mistake if your relationship with PS is no different that other vendors that sell their products. I don't spend a lot of time on the forum when i come here so it's hard to keep up.
don't get me wrong i do love the CE2's. The first i tried were the fluxo's. Even my first box had a few duds (missing wick in one, etc) but the ones that did work worked well.
yeah the coils in my 3/16/11 batch can't be dry burned to red. I'm not a noob to dry burning and know how far i can take them safely, but these glowed like a torch and went poof out of the blue. my friend told me that's what attie coils do when they are about to die and that's what happened. Sadly, after just a couple refills, which is why i commented that i HOPE they have not changed their coils. that is the only thing they have going for them above regular atties *for me*, because too much time is spent troubleshooting the wicking, leaking, etc.
I also asked if the weak coil is a problem specific to the black and stainless ones? didn't see an answer. Mine were 2.8 - 3.0 ohms. The only experience i've had in the past was with Fluxo's and i LOVE those coils. I have 2 boxes of them with coils that survived, but the wicks, post to connector problems, etc have made them unuseable so they are in my out of service pile to be rebuilt at a future date.
if you do have a direct line to PS, please ask them if they have made changes to the coil in the steel and black ones. there is no point in me getting a map tank if they have problems with QC at PS.
as far as the guy in the open letter thread, i don't know/care about that resolution. i'm not into bashing, defensive posts on either side. i come here mostly to get answers with troubleshooting issues. i just want to know if PS's products have been revised DOWN or up. As i said, other ppl on this thread have mentioned their juice turning dark on the first refill also. I haven't a clue what would cause that. do you? ie: should i be looking at the coil? wick? to trouble shoot the problem.
thx danno
don't get me wrong i do love the CE2's. The first i tried were the fluxo's. Even my first box had a few duds (missing wick in one, etc) but the ones that did work worked well.
yeah the coils in my 3/16/11 batch can't be dry burned to red. I'm not a noob to dry burning and know how far i can take them safely, but these glowed like a torch and went poof out of the blue. my friend told me that's what attie coils do when they are about to die and that's what happened. Sadly, after just a couple refills, which is why i commented that i HOPE they have not changed their coils. that is the only thing they have going for them above regular atties *for me*, because too much time is spent troubleshooting the wicking, leaking, etc.
I also asked if the weak coil is a problem specific to the black and stainless ones? didn't see an answer. Mine were 2.8 - 3.0 ohms. The only experience i've had in the past was with Fluxo's and i LOVE those coils. I have 2 boxes of them with coils that survived, but the wicks, post to connector problems, etc have made them unuseable so they are in my out of service pile to be rebuilt at a future date.
if you do have a direct line to PS, please ask them if they have made changes to the coil in the steel and black ones. there is no point in me getting a map tank if they have problems with QC at PS.
as far as the guy in the open letter thread, i don't know/care about that resolution. i'm not into bashing, defensive posts on either side. i come here mostly to get answers with troubleshooting issues. i just want to know if PS's products have been revised DOWN or up. As i said, other ppl on this thread have mentioned their juice turning dark on the first refill also. I haven't a clue what would cause that. do you? ie: should i be looking at the coil? wick? to trouble shoot the problem.
thx danno
Rude?
All I did was ask where I can get the great deal on four of five regular attys for the cost of a pack of CE2s I understood (or misunderstood) you to be talking about. Thanks for the info about the 5.50 each atties.
For every box of CE2s I have gotten, I've well gotten my $9 to $12 bucks worth of use and pleasure from them. Even back to rev 2...all I had to do was lift a ring, pump in some juice, adjust a little flow gasket to best fit my juice, and they worked fine for me.
Some were crap...I tossed them aside and got out another one. At my leisure I have tinkered with some bad ones but even had I'd just written them off...I still don't feel terribly ripped off. They WILL get better at making these. It simply takes some time to learn how, train folks to do it all, and they have to manage to keep enough money coming in somehow to stay alive in the process!
Now, I if got a bad $5-7 EACH Giantomizer...I'd expect an immediate exchange! Those really do need to come down in price...or they better be PERFECT every time.
I don't like the PV they use on the clearo sleeves...but this is a well known problem and metal sleeves are still an option. I do like the way they vape, taste, and how easy it is to clean them. Even if I just throw the dang things away after the first sign of a crack or leak...I STILL get my money's worth, and run many many many ml of juice through a box of CE2 cartos.
All this mess about 'cutting' around the wicks is so unnecessary. If you have a thin juice...leave it as it ships. If you have a thick juice...lift the ring in tiny bits till it flows as you like it. No worse than messing with any other tank-like system out there! One reason the things gurgle on people is because the first thing they do is mod the heck out of it instead of following the recommended guidelines for prepping and tuning the device. They open up the notches then put in a thin juice...and wonder why it tries to flood or girgles a bit!
Then there's the guys that crank HV through them and get ticked off because it can't wick 10 gallons of juice a second...gets dry, and pops. It never was designed to work that way on that kind of equipment!!!
So...RUDE...is hopping on a simple ANNOUNCEMENT THREAD notifying people that CE2s are back in stock again and bashing both the product and the vendor. There is a review area for that sort of thing. (Not saying YOU did all these things....but some posters have)
Quite a few people have been looking for/waiting on CE2's at rev 4 or 5 either one!
No one ever said the CE2 is perfect. Even the RoyalSmoker site tells openly about the problems with the things vs the benefits. If you like them, fine...if you don't...fine.
I've also tried all sorts of cartos and attys, have had to make adjustments for optimal performance on many makes and models, gotten bad ones in the boxes and the list goes on. Not just the CE2s, but quite a few other products that cost as much or more than a pack of CE2s. So...should I go to every thread that says, "Boge Cartos now in stock" and gripe about the duds I've gotten before? Should I pop into an announcement that "The SuperDuperVapor Store" now has LR Tank attys and gripe about all the problems I had with my tank attys?
The revision mix-up is an HONEST MISTAKE especially with small/young/new manufacturers trying to do an international business. The stuff goes through ports, customs, various distribution points, it all gets packaged and repackaged. Cut them some slack...they're learning...and if they survive the cut throat world, they'll get better at it! I've seen similar stuff happen to almost every product in the PV market over the years! But somehow this is different........
All I did was ask where I can get the great deal on four of five regular attys for the cost of a pack of CE2s I understood (or misunderstood) you to be talking about. Thanks for the info about the 5.50 each atties.
For every box of CE2s I have gotten, I've well gotten my $9 to $12 bucks worth of use and pleasure from them. Even back to rev 2...all I had to do was lift a ring, pump in some juice, adjust a little flow gasket to best fit my juice, and they worked fine for me.
Some were crap...I tossed them aside and got out another one. At my leisure I have tinkered with some bad ones but even had I'd just written them off...I still don't feel terribly ripped off. They WILL get better at making these. It simply takes some time to learn how, train folks to do it all, and they have to manage to keep enough money coming in somehow to stay alive in the process!
Now, I if got a bad $5-7 EACH Giantomizer...I'd expect an immediate exchange! Those really do need to come down in price...or they better be PERFECT every time.
I don't like the PV they use on the clearo sleeves...but this is a well known problem and metal sleeves are still an option. I do like the way they vape, taste, and how easy it is to clean them. Even if I just throw the dang things away after the first sign of a crack or leak...I STILL get my money's worth, and run many many many ml of juice through a box of CE2 cartos.
All this mess about 'cutting' around the wicks is so unnecessary. If you have a thin juice...leave it as it ships. If you have a thick juice...lift the ring in tiny bits till it flows as you like it. No worse than messing with any other tank-like system out there! One reason the things gurgle on people is because the first thing they do is mod the heck out of it instead of following the recommended guidelines for prepping and tuning the device. They open up the notches then put in a thin juice...and wonder why it tries to flood or girgles a bit!
Then there's the guys that crank HV through them and get ticked off because it can't wick 10 gallons of juice a second...gets dry, and pops. It never was designed to work that way on that kind of equipment!!!
So...RUDE...is hopping on a simple ANNOUNCEMENT THREAD notifying people that CE2s are back in stock again and bashing both the product and the vendor. There is a review area for that sort of thing. (Not saying YOU did all these things....but some posters have)
Quite a few people have been looking for/waiting on CE2's at rev 4 or 5 either one!
No one ever said the CE2 is perfect. Even the RoyalSmoker site tells openly about the problems with the things vs the benefits. If you like them, fine...if you don't...fine.
I've also tried all sorts of cartos and attys, have had to make adjustments for optimal performance on many makes and models, gotten bad ones in the boxes and the list goes on. Not just the CE2s, but quite a few other products that cost as much or more than a pack of CE2s. So...should I go to every thread that says, "Boge Cartos now in stock" and gripe about the duds I've gotten before? Should I pop into an announcement that "The SuperDuperVapor Store" now has LR Tank attys and gripe about all the problems I had with my tank attys?
The revision mix-up is an HONEST MISTAKE especially with small/young/new manufacturers trying to do an international business. The stuff goes through ports, customs, various distribution points, it all gets packaged and repackaged. Cut them some slack...they're learning...and if they survive the cut throat world, they'll get better at it! I've seen similar stuff happen to almost every product in the PV market over the years! But somehow this is different........
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Sure no problem...we were assured all of our CE2-X's would be fat wicked as we did very much have a direct impact on having these in a fat wick pre-burned condition. I and Chris, especially, worked hard on that and RS even gave us credit on their site for that...and for the most part, I want to cut them some slack. The only ones that we have had any feedback on NOT beign fatwicked were the XL BLACK 3.0-3.2.
On the coils: No, they are supposed to be same raw material and manufacturing process. If they changed either of these this was not told to us.
On the coils: No, they are supposed to be same raw material and manufacturing process. If they changed either of these this was not told to us.
Very very well stated...thank you.
One note: I agree with you entirely about fiddling. If you have thin juice no need to mess with them at all (although I still by habit lift the fill ring a lil around the cup slots), thicker juice, well of course you have to compensate for that. These things cannot take into account all juices a vaper will throw at them. You learn this from experience and adjust.
Also its a very good point about stressing too much commiserate with the cost of these items. I feel myself if I got a day of vaping from one of these, with several refills, hey I spent two dollars instead of 8-12 dollars for a pack of cigs let alone my health benefits. So all of this needs ot be put into perspective. These ARE disposable products.
Haha, I know a post like yours takes alot of time especially with no typos...well done and thanks!
One note: I agree with you entirely about fiddling. If you have thin juice no need to mess with them at all (although I still by habit lift the fill ring a lil around the cup slots), thicker juice, well of course you have to compensate for that. These things cannot take into account all juices a vaper will throw at them. You learn this from experience and adjust.
Also its a very good point about stressing too much commiserate with the cost of these items. I feel myself if I got a day of vaping from one of these, with several refills, hey I spent two dollars instead of 8-12 dollars for a pack of cigs let alone my health benefits. So all of this needs ot be put into perspective. These ARE disposable products.
Haha, I know a post like yours takes alot of time especially with no typos...well done and thanks!
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