Flavored E-Liquid is for noobs
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If you are vaping trying to get a nicotine buzz then it's apparent you don't know what you are doing on that level either.
I don't get a nic buzz; I must be doing something wrong... Maybe it's the flavoring...
Thanks. Yeah give flavorless a try, its great!
I am looking forward to try it. I don't think I will enjoy it as much as my DIY flavored juices, but it is worth a test. After all, the less chemicals I breathe the less risks to my health.
As you noticed, many here have nothing to post but platitudes. It is sadly a contagious disease, they like to gang up to intimidate.
Oh enlightened one, teach me your ways so that I too can tell people in my social group that they are ridden with disease and corruption.
From a gaming standpoint, I believe OP is calling us noobs because he wants us to become strong like him/her so that we can defeat the monster that is Flavor, Gunker of Coils.
Actually. The real destroyer of the lungs in our vape system is burnt wick. The true coil gunker would be the thicker juices. It might have something to do with color. But I've had clear juices. Dark purple juices. Some almost black. All my coils last around the same amount of time. You have to take care of your coils. If they are taken care of they will take care of you. The only time I notice my lungs hurting is after a dry hit. At no other time have I gotten this sensation. I know you think you are doing the right thing op. But when you call out products that people love them you better have proof studies and science to back it up. Nobody here is out to get you. But you need to have that proof. In all science you must make tests to prove that your "hypothesis" is correct. Just saying. I'm a science freak. And your so called science lacks any proof or tests.
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Actually, there's a 3rd reason, and the one for me. It's the behavioral thing about vaping/smoking that I need, the hand to mouth ritual thing. I don't need nic or flavor.
Many people here do vape unflavored nic solution for precisely the reasons you speak of. Longer lasting coils, and they feel they have avoided the flavoring thing altogether, and whatever risks may come out of research about them (like the diacetyl, AP, etc. stuff). PLUS they do save $$ that way.
Do whatever works for you.
I have no idea why some people are giving you a hard time, there are hundreds of posts about why people vape unflavored here, many of them are veteran vapers and veteran members, and they often give the same reasons you just gave.
IF there were no suspicions about flavorings, I can't imagine why Dr. F. decided to study them in particular, and present the findings. There are many scientists who are also vapers who have thoughts about flavorings.........
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So much for no "bro" science.
(Thanks for the clarification on dihydrogen monoxide, Doctor (cause I thought you started speaking in tongues or something).
The only thing I think you've saved us from--thanks to the very nature of this forum being visual-- is an unnecessary added load of a heated, moist, nitrogen-oxygen-carbon dioxide, nicotine and (in your case, flavorless) gas. (Oh and that means, air...hot air)
Ok...
Opinions, fabrications, speculations and facts - everyone has them and sometimes it's fun to banter back and forth about them...
But...keep the personal jabs out of it. Once you cross that line, you become the problem.
Opinions, fabrications, speculations and facts - everyone has them and sometimes it's fun to banter back and forth about them...
But...keep the personal jabs out of it. Once you cross that line, you become the problem.
Well, that type of attention grabbing is what gets you labled as a troll and actually detracts from discussion of legitimate concerns.
Sweeteners and some flavorings do gunk up wicks faster than unflavored.
We just don't know yet how safe or unsafe it is to inhale flavoring meant for food and drink.
Personally, after giving unflavored a run, most of my old flavored liquids seem a lot less tasty than they used to be.
Long, long ago...perhaps 3 years past....it was foretold by ancient scribes that a SAVIOR would come to guide us along the confusing and treacherous paths of this journey called vaping.
That ONE would come to remove the scales from our eyes and show us the TRUTH--the Matrix of reality---hidden behind ignorance and the deceptive allure of mass market peddlers
As former smokers, we thought we had faced adversity....
Engaging is a habit that was slowly but surely sucking out our life force and putting others around us at similar risks.
Participating in a pastime with ever-increasing financial burdens and that tasked our abilities to locate the ever-decreasing safe havens to do so.
One laden with offensive odiferousness and that harbinger of impending doom incarnate...
Open Flame.
Along came a technology to offer us a way out. An electronic lifeline. The ecig.
But we were all of us Deceiv'ed we masses unwash'ed.
Our minds, small they be, were unable to comprehend the true nature of the TRIBULATION we had embraced.
Adversities such as
Screwing and unscrewing replaceable coils or--heaven forbid---wrapping a piece of wire round and round and round.
Extracting a wicking material and (gasp) putting a new one in.
Pouring a liquid in a container.
And of course that Bane, the Pernicious Malcontent, the Vile Malignancy that is Evil Substantiated: YUMMY.
I believed that Ethereal Deliver had arrived.
Phil Busardo
Woe, me mistaken.
Oh Lilvapie from on High,
I stand before you humbled and long for your next illumination issued from your flavorless breath.
Guide me.
Save me.
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I'm surprised that this topic remained open. Lilvapie, everyone has their own opinion about juice, but it may not be shared by all. Chill a little. ECF has over 200,000 members. There will be opinions, especially on juice. It's the reason that there are so many vendors with myriad flavor recipes.
I tend to like bland flavors that resemble ultra light cigarette flavor with some mild tobacco, caramel, and vanilla flavor underneath. Others like in your face flavors that resemble candy, desserts, tobaccos, menthol, and any other flavor you can imagine. So, you like plain old PG or VG. That's your choice.
Play well with ECF members and they will play well with you. You may have years of experience with vaping, but a low post count says not as far as ECF is concerned. Introduce yourself and your background in vaping and maybe others will accept you. Starting off with vinegar and fire doesn't fly.
I tend to like bland flavors that resemble ultra light cigarette flavor with some mild tobacco, caramel, and vanilla flavor underneath. Others like in your face flavors that resemble candy, desserts, tobaccos, menthol, and any other flavor you can imagine. So, you like plain old PG or VG. That's your choice.
Play well with ECF members and they will play well with you. You may have years of experience with vaping, but a low post count says not as far as ECF is concerned. Introduce yourself and your background in vaping and maybe others will accept you. Starting off with vinegar and fire doesn't fly.
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Read through most of this thread, I'm not going to tell anyone what to vape or not to vape.... your body, your choice. Personally I do vape unflavored most of the time after getting heavily into DIY and researching flavors I was using and looking for "safe" alternatives to vape.
I understand both sides of this argument, we quit smoking and switched to vaping as a less harmful alternative to tobacco, this does not mean we should not research each and every flavor put into a liquid we make or buy.... if you can find what "they" used to flavor it.
One topic not looked at it and not known by many is the use of brass and copper in atty's.... FYI, brass contains lead and chromed brass will loose the "protective" coating over time...possibly when you inhale??. I mention this because many, if not all clones sold use this as a cost cutting material.
For those that wanted "proof" as to flavors to be avoided, this is a good start. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...s-may-contain-diacetyl-there-really-many.html Many flavors sold as diacetyl free are in fact not, "free" only indicates the manufacturer does not add diacetyl to the flavorings..... it's present naturally, and in higher levels amongst fruit, creamy and dairy flavors.
I understand both sides of this argument, we quit smoking and switched to vaping as a less harmful alternative to tobacco, this does not mean we should not research each and every flavor put into a liquid we make or buy.... if you can find what "they" used to flavor it.
One topic not looked at it and not known by many is the use of brass and copper in atty's.... FYI, brass contains lead and chromed brass will loose the "protective" coating over time...possibly when you inhale??. I mention this because many, if not all clones sold use this as a cost cutting material.
For those that wanted "proof" as to flavors to be avoided, this is a good start. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...s-may-contain-diacetyl-there-really-many.html Many flavors sold as diacetyl free are in fact not, "free" only indicates the manufacturer does not add diacetyl to the flavorings..... it's present naturally, and in higher levels amongst fruit, creamy and dairy flavors.
No, you certainly cannot. I'm not sure how much teaching you will ever do with your delivery.
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