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Flower atomizer suggestions ?

Discussion in 'Cannabis Vape Products' started by Fog n Vape, Sep 11, 2019.

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  1. Fog n Vape

    Fog n Vape Super Member ECF Veteran

    Am looking for an atomizer for vaping flower. What shops in my area seem to have is wick and coil atomizers that combust flower while I'm looking for an atomizer that will vaporize the flower.

    Why should I spend upwards of $200.00 when I already own mods?

    This is for medical reasons as I am 3 years post chemo and radiation treatment for stage 4 cancer and multiple medical conditions causing chronic pain.
    Ty
     
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  2. DebbieNY

    DebbieNY Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 11, 2013
    New York City
    Fasttech has a bunch of these vaporizer mods for far less. I can personally vouch for the Hebe Titan II and the Hugo Vapor Pathfinder V2.

    I love the LVSmoke Flash, too, but the mouthpiece cracks from the heat too easily/quickly and no replacements to be had (I have 3 of these that all cracked, despite using lower heat than recommended). The Titan II's mouthpiece is susceptible to heat, as well, but you can find replacement mouthpieces online at other sites. I have been unable to find replacement mouthpieces for the Pathfinder, however, given the unit price at FT for those ($13), buy back ups of those instead.
     
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  3. Izan

    Izan Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 1, 2012
    Mallorca, Spain
    Hola,
    Check out the "Splinter" Z or V2
    https://www.rastabuddhatao.com/
    Or the Impcognito
    Impcognito : MistVape™ Online Store
    To your health!
    I
     
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  4. Fog n Vape

    Fog n Vape Super Member ECF Veteran

    The Hugo Pathfinder looks interesting and definitely affordable.
    How long did the 3 extra sleeves last and what temp did you find got the most life out of them, i.e. ,minutes hours days? Or grams vaped if your comfortable answering that question, you could pm me if your more comfortable with that. Though cannabis is legal here in Canada that doesn't mean BIG BROTHER isn't watching!
    Does the stainless heating element last and/or are they replaceable as it doesn't say on website?
    Would you recommend buying 2 or 3 at a time as I don't want to be ordering every month.
    Does it actually vaporize bud and how fine do you reccomend grinding it before vaping.
    How hot does the mouth piece get, don't want to burn my lips.
    The plus is the affordability which is also the minus as I'm not into creating more garbage then necessary so my mind isn't made up yet.
    Ty
     
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  5. Fog n Vape

    Fog n Vape Super Member ECF Veteran

     
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  6. quittingvegas

    quittingvegas Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 27, 2012
    Las Vegas
    Not a atomizer but its a good starter for flower - Dynavap M.
    I haven't found any atomizers compatible with my mods.
     
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  7. Izan

    Izan Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 1, 2012
    Mallorca, Spain
    Sure you can.
    If you are using 6mg/ml freebase, you can substitute directly with nic salts at the same level; 6mg/ml.
    If your goal is to use less liquid, you could increase the salt strength to 12mg/ml (or higher) which should allow you to take half as many drags (or fewer) to get the same level of satisfaction.

    Personally, I maintain a nic level low enough to permit me to vape as often and for as long as I like.
    When traveling or in situations where I may not have the freedom to vape constantly I'll use a higher strength to keep the nicotine monkey quiet between vapes.

    I use 25mg/ml-30mg/ml freebase in pod devices.
    In the EU, the strongest salts I can purchase legally are 20mg/ml...and that just isn't strong enough. No throat hit. If I have to use salt nic, I will usually try to spike it with a bit of freebase to increase the throat tickle I need to be satisfied.

    HTH
    I
     
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  8. Kprthevapr

    Kprthevapr Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 1, 2015
    On the River, GA
    I did a review of this one a couple years ago before I retired. Can be used with flower and extracts.
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  9. Fog n Vape

    Fog n Vape Super Member ECF Veteran

    I'm learning why there isn't a decent atomizer for use with our mods, with a 10 second cutoff, more or less, on modern mods it doesn't allow enough time to properly vaporize flower.
    So after realizing this I will have to adjust my thinking and more importantly budget to get a decent vape system for cannabis.
     
  10. Izan

    Izan Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 1, 2012
    Mallorca, Spain
    ARCTICFOX firmware for Joyetech, wismec,eleaf products will extend the cut off to 15 seconds.
    I think there are other firmwares that will raise or remove the cut off and have an extended temperature range for concentrates.

    Do you want a battery powered unit or are torch units also an option?

    Will you carry it daily or only for home use?

    Will you use it by yourself or with other?

    Do you use a water tool and/or is that something you are interested in buying also?

    Have you checked out: F@#Kcombustion.com? URL truncated. It is what you think it is...all one word.

    What is your budget?

    Cheers
    I

     
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  11. Sloth Tonight

    Sloth Tonight CF Moderator Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Jun 25, 2014
    Adirondacks
    I'm certainly interested in this discussion and appreciate the links and suggestions so far. I'll be looking at them soon. My issue with vaping has been that the vaporizers I've tried aren't compatible with how I consume cannabis. I typically take one, maybe two tokes in the evening, and that's pretty much it. The vaporizers I've tried all require using at least .3 grams or so, and it's inefficient to vape less than that amount. But that's way too much for me in one sitting. If I pack a small bowl, it lasts me 2-3 days on average. My dream is to find a vaporizer that enables me to have a toke here and there without wasting/consuming too much in a sitting.

    I did try the firefly or something, forget the exact name, which seemed like what I was looking for. It didn't work well, though.
     
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  12. Fog n Vape

    Fog n Vape Super Member ECF Veteran

    I would want a battery unit not interested in torch.

    90% would be home use by myself.

    Not much interest in water tool but could be convinced.

    Budget cash would be $100. though if convinced of the quaility, durable and long lasting, $200. though that would have to go on credit card and pay it off over a few months. Every second month in winter get the heating bill which leaves no discretionary cash since I'm on disability.

    Dr appointment later this a.m. so will go to a couple shops in town after just to see what's in my price range. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be anything of higher quality on fastech then entry level.
    Ty
     
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  13. Kprthevapr

    Kprthevapr Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 1, 2015
    On the River, GA
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  14. Izan

    Izan Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 1, 2012
    Mallorca, Spain
    I was not a fan of the firefly. Perhaps the newer model is better but I think I tried the V2 and found it to be more trouble than it's worth.
    As mentioned above, the Dynavap or the original Vaponic are fantastic for micro-dosing.

    The dynavape has an induction heater (additional cost) option that removes the need for a torch.

    Have a peek at the POTV 'One'.
    I did not like the mild "robot fart" odor/taste from the sealing gaskets, but I really only noticed it when playing with the unit before use.


    HTH
    I
     
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  15. quittingvegas

    quittingvegas Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 27, 2012
    Las Vegas
    I have the mighty vaporizer. It is expensive about $300 to $350. It works wonders though. My hubby didn't like the dynavap and this gave him more of a sensation of smoking
     
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  16. Sloth Tonight

    Sloth Tonight CF Moderator Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Jun 25, 2014
    Adirondacks
    The Mighty is amazing. My only issue with it personally is the inability to micro-dose (great terminology @Izan and thank you very much for your help, you've given me a lot to look into tonight my friend), but it works amazingly well otherwise.
     
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  17. Fog n Vape

    Fog n Vape Super Member ECF Veteran

    My issue with vaping has been that the vaporizers I've tried aren't compatible with how I consume cannabis. I typically take one, maybe two tokes in the evening, and that's pretty much it. The vaporizers I've tried all require using at least .3 grams or so, and it's inefficient to vape less than that amount. But that's way too much for me in one sitting. If I pack a small bowl, it lasts me 2-3 days on average. My dream is to find a vaporizer that enables me to have a toke here and there without wasting/consuming too much in a sitting.

    I did try the firefly or something, forget the exact name, which seemed like what I was looking for. It didn't work well, though.[/QUOTE]

    Getting old here as can't remember how to post links, so will have to type to Google, but this an interesting desktop that says micro dose as small as .025 gram

    e nano by epic vape

    Bit more than my original budget but 3 year warranty with lifetime on heating element., looks like a winner for my needs
     
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  18. Izan

    Izan Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 1, 2012
    Mallorca, Spain
    Getting old here as can't remember how to post links, so will have to type to Google, but this an interesting desktop that says micro dose as small as .025 gram

    e nano by epic vape

    Bit more than my original budget but 3 year warranty with lifetime on heating element., looks like a winner for my needs[/QUOTE]
    Nice choice, but it is mains powered vs battery powered.
    Another amazing micro-dosing device is the Vapman, it is torch or mains powered.

    Best of luck in your search.

    Cheers
    I
     
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  19. Fog n Vape

    Fog n Vape Super Member ECF Veteran

    Planet of the Vapes ONE

    Remembered how to post a link, a good night's sleep does wonders.
    This one is affordable at $139.00 Canadian . Reading through the questions and reviews it appears the retailer stands behind their products with a 2 year warrenty. With exchange wouldn't save anything by buying in the U.S.A.
    A bonus is the pods for micro-doseing and a free bubbler for cooling, would prefer the ability to swap battery but with 2 year warrenty, which is way more than most mods for e-liquids, this one fits my budget .
    Though 90% of my usage would be at home the portability is a plus . Think I'm done searching.
    This rivals shopping for mods and tanks with so many products :drool:
     
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  20. Izan

    Izan Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 1, 2012
    Mallorca, Spain
    It vibrates when it reaches temperature! I though it was a gimmick feature, but it is actually very convenient.
    The capsules add mass but make less mess in the unit.
    Like most conduction/convection devcies, allowing the product/device to heat soak tends to give the best performance/most complete extraction.
    The bubbler is nice for cooling the vapor and also removing some of the particulate matter that many find irritating.
    A piece of cotton ball or similar can be used in the standard glass MP to achieve a similar filter effect.

    Cheers
    I
     
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