This is a setup ions posted in the show off thread, I knew it would look good and it does
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3856/14166952848_3a5e80f22f_b.jpg
Focalecig ... A new Fasttech??
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This is a setup ions posted in the show off thread, I knew it would look good and it does
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3856/14166952848_3a5e80f22f_b.jpg
That looks sweet. Now you got me in shopping mode. Going to have to check out these Hammer mods.
I agree, I know the Hammer (both original an clone) have some issues with the switch but I really dig the look of the Hammerfun.
Yes, I believe the incident did occur with stacked batteries, which is known to be more dangerous, but that wasn't my point. My point is that thermal runaway can happen, and depending on all of the variables present when a thermal runaway occurs, it "can be" potentially devastating. I personally do not subscribe to a fear based mentality, but that is not because I don't believe that bad things can, and sometimes do happen.
As far as K-100's and ICR battery kits, and sub ohming, I can't speak too much to that because I do not use K-100 mods w/ICR's, nor do I sub ohm .. But what I do know is that the reason that ICR batteries are discouraged from use with mechs is because IF an ICR chemistry battery goes into thermal runaway, it is far "more likely" to explode and/or vent with flames than a IMR chemistry battery is .. which does not mean that an IMR cannot explode/vent with flames as well in the case of a thermal runaway, but rather it is "less likely" to do so due to its chemical make up.
So does this mean that you cannot sub ohm with an ICR battery without issue? No, it doesn't, and I have at least "heard" from a few vapers that admittedly sub ohm with ICR's, yet haven't had a problem. However, it doesn't change the FACT, that based on battery chemistry alone, IF something does goes wrong with an ICR battery, it is far more likely to go REALLY WRONG, than a IMR is.
I mean, technically I can drive a car with my feet, but that doesn't mean that its a good idea. And this how I feel about the use of ICR's in mechs
There is a reason that ICR's are not found in high drain applications such as power tools. An ICR is a high capacity battery (mah), not a high drain battery (current).
I believe the point that fivefour was trying to make is that any battery, regardless of chemistry, that is pushed to, or beyond its limits is "potentially" dangerous, and I don't find anything "fear mongering" about that, its just truth.
I think we as vapers need to stop battling over whether you can, or should use this battery, or sub ohm that low, and just stay focused on educating vapers about battery chemistry, and ohms laws so that vapers can make their own informed decisions.
So true ... I always found it a little strange that I actually think the Hammer is a very attractive looking mod, in theory I should hate the looks of this mod
Lol. Thanks Nikki. I just couldn't help myself. WTA (Whole Tobacco Alkaloids). Yes. Good stuff. If you get Unflavored 100% WTA you can DIY and add a little in the current juices you have. (29 bucks for 15ml) I like it straight. Just add a little. Then they have WTA infused juices already. Makes you vape less (12 bucks) ECF for coupon!!!. Yes.....less. Makes you put it down and have that sensation feeling that you had enough. Like smokes in the morning if you remember get that "high" feeling. Does the same. A little spendy but well worth it. The guy that created and extracted is on the forums as well.
Damn Drifter
Aha ... thanks for explaining that, most especially the fact that there is a flavorless version. I am now intrigued by it.
Now it all makes sense .. that is why you have that "old buddy" feeling to me, because you are a Gemini! I have had many a close Gemini friend in my life.
#airsignsruleThis is a setup ions posted in the show off thread, I knew it would look good and it does
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3856/14166952848_3a5e80f22f_b.jpg
Oh yeah, that does look slick! And it even makes the mini look good!
.. Sometimes all you need to see is the right set up, and then you go "yeah, I get it". Yes, I believe the incident did occur with stacked batteries, which is known to be more dangerous, but that wasn't my point. My point is that thermal runaway can happen, and depending on all of the variables present when a thermal runaway occurs, it "can be" potentially devastating. I personally do not subscribe to a fear based mentality, but that is not because I don't believe that bad things can, and sometimes do happen.
As far as K-100's and ICR battery kits, and sub ohming, I can't speak too much to that because I do not use K-100 mods w/ICR's, nor do I sub ohm .. But what I do know is that the reason that ICR batteries are discouraged from use with mechs is because IF an ICR chemistry battery goes into thermal runaway, it is far "more likely" to explode and/or vent with flames than a IMR chemistry battery is .. which does not mean that an IMR cannot explode/vent with flames as well in the case of a thermal runaway, but rather it is "less likely" to do so due to its chemical make up.
So does this mean that you cannot sub ohm with an ICR battery without issue? No, it doesn't, and I have at least "heard" from a few vapers that admittedly sub ohm with ICR's, yet haven't had a problem. However, it doesn't change the FACT, that based on battery chemistry alone, IF something does goes wrong with an ICR battery, it is far more likely to go REALLY WRONG, than a IMR is.
I mean, technically I can drive a car with my feet, but that doesn't mean that its a good idea. And this how I feel about the use of ICR's in mechs
There is a reason that ICR's are not found in high drain applications such as power tools. An ICR is a high capacity battery (mah), not a high drain battery (current).
I believe the point that fivefour was trying to make is that any battery, regardless of chemistry, that is pushed to, or beyond its limits is "potentially" dangerous, and I don't find anything "fear mongering" about that, its just truth.
I think we as vapers need to stop battling over whether you can, or should use this battery, or sub ohm that low, and just stay focused on educating vapers about battery chemistry, and ohms laws so that vapers can make their own informed decisions.
Well said and I don't disagree with any it. However, I do think there is irresponsible fear mongering in the vaping community. I read about "faces being blown off" everyday and the likelihood of it happening is so remote.
Obviously education is the key. I just don't like that there's a segment of the vaping community that have steered people away from mechs with exaggerations that border on lies.
Sorry to derail the thread.
Oh no worries about derailing, this thread is "derail central" sometimes
.. This was actually a good little discussion to have in this thread, because there are a lot of new vapers that do lurk here, so these types of discussions are beneficial, and so I didn't mind having it. And I honestly get where you are coming from when it comes to fear. You don't teach people by scaring them, you teach them by educating them.
Happy belated birthday Weezy, a newborn son is the best gift one could receive.
36mg juice does this as well
Ya think? 
I am always blown away when I hear of vapers who vape 36mg .. 18mg gives me a screaming headache within 5 puffs.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY DAY G-WEEZY!! 
Thanks to everyone. I am very humbled to be part of the fam
. 36mg nic is not the same as WTA. WTA gives you a calming feeling not a choked out coughing high nic feeling.
Just got done hand polishing this little beast up. Built a quad coil on the Igo W6 at .24 Yes its a chucker.
. 36mg nic is not the same as WTA. WTA gives you a calming feeling not a choked out coughing high nic feeling.Just got done hand polishing this little beast up. Built a quad coil on the Igo W6 at .24 Yes its a chucker.
It does, when I started it's what I used and a 30ml bottle would last an entire month....you would have to put it down after a few good pulls.
Thanks to everyone. I am very humbled to be part of the fam
Just got done hand polishing this little beast up. Built a quad coil on the Igo W6 at .24 Yes its a chucker.
Very nice and congratulations.
36mg nic is not the same as WTA. WTA gives you a calming feeling not a choked out coughing high nic feeling.
It never choked me (initially) but definitely could get a bit of nic rush which when I started vaping is exactly what I needed.
I know it isn't the same, I was referring to the having to put it down and being satisfied like a cigarette parts...it certainly isn't calming.
I vape 12mg most of the time currently, sometimes 18mg with my coffee.
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