Fogger V4!!
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Hey Tbev, were are you!!?? I wanted to let you know I'm really digging this Fogger! Thanks for the help, I got coils set up to work on my Vamo and found a sweet spot with the rayon. She's kickin it now, well as good as she can on a Vamo but I'm impressed.
That funky taste I was getting from the Fogger that I told you guys about is now gone. I finally figured out what it tasted like, sulfur. My grandparent's had a well with sulfur water, I had forgotten the taste and smell, but that's just what it tasted like.
That funky taste I was getting from the Fogger that I told you guys about is now gone. I finally figured out what it tasted like, sulfur. My grandparent's had a well with sulfur water, I had forgotten the taste and smell, but that's just what it tasted like.
It is not that. It's just these fixes have been discussed in this very thread time and time again. The same mistakes are being made just because some people refuse to read this very thread.
For example: "Stainless steel is hard and Carbide bit is going to be used..." -WRONG!!! "With a hand drill" - EVEN WRONGER!!!
"Cutting an Airflow Control Ring will increase Airflow" - WRONG!!! Don't believe me? Just try vaping with it completely removed and see how your airflow will not increase.
The "Bottleneck is in your Airflow horizontal holes, drilling them will, actually get you airier draw. But, for your sake, do not use Carbide drill bit.
That's why I tried to keep quite.
Ah, yes, all those are previous discussions. Guess because I'm happy around 0.8 ohms and not a lung hitter I just read and discarded the airflow discussion because I actually use mine with a slightly reduced setting. But all the info anyone needs is already in the thread, you're quite right about that.
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You're probably right, but for fairness sake this thread is 2665 posts long (huge) and quite chatty with off topic. You would need more than 2 hours to read this thread alone (and googling stuff sometimes to understand what people are talking about lol).
Hmm, would be cool if the forum software would allow readers to pick short "tips and tricks" to condense the best of a thread into something like a FAQ. Like Reddit I guess.
It is not that. It's just these fixes have been discussed in this very thread time and time again. The same mistakes are being made just because some people refuse to read this very thread.
For example: "Stainless steel is hard and Carbide bit is going to be used..." -WRONG!!! "With a hand drill" - EVEN WRONGER!!!
"Cutting an Airflow Control Ring will increase Airflow" - WRONG!!! Don't believe me? Just try vaping with it completely removed and see how your airflow will not increase.
The "Bottleneck is in your Airflow horizontal holes, drilling them will, actually get you airier draw. But, for your sake, do not use Carbide drill bit.
That's why I tried to keep quite.
Thanks for the feedback, I do appreciate it.
No, haven't heard anyone mention that about the 4.1. I've heard of several complaints about some of the older versions. In fact, one of the US suppliers was shipping out new screws for people that bought from them. To my knowledge, it was a faulty (cheap) screw issue more so than a hole issue. It's been covered in this thread...good luck finding it though!
Nice! I did the same thing to my AFC ring when I first got my 4.2, but it didn't make a difference. Those style notches were manditory after I over-sized the horizontal air holes.
Does the inside of your ring look like mine or is there a bevel to let air slip by? As you can see with the ring on mine there is no bevel, the threads are to the edge. It makes a big difference with this one, as you can see half the hole is completely covered. Yes drilling the holes larger without touching the ring would give more flow but you would still end up with half the hole covered, just a larger half of a hole. I'm not saying this is right or wrong, just what I did to give me the air flow I was looking for. Like my buddy use to say, If I'm happy I'm happy.
(some cruddy wicks eh!)
I noticed that in your picture. Slight deviations on their production line sure makes it hard for us to write a post in here without including a disclaimer, LOL!
Yeah, those wicks are foul!
Yeah, those wicks are foul!
I'll have to agree,may not be the right way,but definitely looks like it will work,i will be doing mine as well.When i first got my fogger,i thought it was too airy,so i kept the ring half way closed.Now after vaping on the orchid for a week,the fogger seemed to be waay to tight of a draw,as the orchid is a really airy draw,and i have gotten used to that,so the fogger has been sitting the past few days.Tonight i decided to rewick it,and while i was at it,decided to remove the afc just to see the difference,and wow it is very close to what i have gotten used to with the orchid now,way better than it was,but it looks funny without the ring,and seeing the threads,so i think the way you did it will be perfect.Still have wide open flow,be able to cover the threads,and still have the ability toadjust it down if needed,i dont think it can get better than that.I think with a bit of filing and finish work,it could be made to look like it came from the factory like that.
Well I must point out and give credit to AMDTrucking, he pointed out in his post yesterday --> http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ystems/545703-fogger-v4-267.html#post13949578 at least some versions of these Foggers have smaller air feed holes then the horizontal holes and drilling the feed holes to match will allow more air flow. But if your ring is like mine with the threads to the edge (and it sounds like it is because you also found increased air flow with the ring removed) you'll still have half the hole covered, just larger half of a hole, but it will increase the air flow.
Research your version, see what other have to say and do what you think best, mine mod is one option that I went with and it solved the problem on mine.
I appreciate the credit. After playing with my five Foggers (V4.2, V4.3, V4.4 and two Big Foggers) for some time, IMO, the best way to increase the airflow would be:
1. Drill the horizontal airholes to at least an equal size as the vertical holes, which is 2.4 mm.
2. Shave the bottom of the Airflow Ring in it's entirety, not just two notches. Because when the ring turns - it will come out of alignment with your holes and you know how easy does it turn. I found #2 step to be unnecessary because that ring does not seal the holes. It may look like it is obstructing your holes, but the air comes from every which way around the ring into the hole. I fond it to be enough for my style of vaping. YMMV.
As you can see on the picture below, I did not alter my Airflow Control Rings:
They must have improved the design on the 4.2 and above,because on my 4.1,the ring definitely obstructs the holes.When raised fully up,it was still a fairly tight draw,but after i removed the ring completely,it is a very airy draw.I see what you mean about where it should not obstruct the holes,but on mine,like mentioned above,there is no bevel on the ring,so it sits pretty tight against the holes,not really blocking them,but definitely making it harder for air to pass by smoothly.
I believe back pages and pages someone posted pics of the airflow adjustment ring. But it was the threaded style which was the V4.1 to V4.2 change. That's most likely when they added the half bevel to it. I only have V4.3 and V4.4 and it has been mentioned that although it appears that the hole in the base is half covered it really makes no difference between fully opened and removed.
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When I build my fogger, I only screw the air ring down to the top of the air hole, then I screw on the bottom part of the tank section, so none of the air hole is covered, I can't adjust the air flow, as it tightens the ring, but I like it wide open all the time anyway
When I build my fogger, I only screw the air ring down to the top of the air hole, then I screw on the bottom part of the tank section, so none of the air hole is covered, I can't adjust the air flow, as it tightens the ring, but I like it wide open all the time anyway
Humm... I tried that and the bottom o-ring didn't seal. Woke up the next morning to find a nice mess on my desk, fortunately the juice that ran down my Vamo hasn't seemed to hurt it, yet....
I appreciate the credit. After playing with my five Foggers (V4.2, V4.3, V4.4 and two Big Foggers) for some time, IMO, the best way to increase the airflow would be:
1. Drill the horizontal airholes to at least an equal size as the vertical holes, which is 2.4 mm.
2. Shave the bottom of the Airflow Ring in it's entirety, not just two notches. Because when the ring turns - it will come out of alignment with your holes and you know how easy does it turn. I found #2 step to be unnecessary because that ring does not seal the holes. It may look like it is obstructing your holes, but the air comes from every which way around the ring into the hole. I fond it to be enough for my style of vaping. YMMV.
As you can see on the picture below, I did not alter my Airflow Control Rings:
I love that KING!
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