For the love of god can some explain the $200 plus mechanical mods

[tearose50]

rba's see innovation.

Mechanical tube mods? Nothing innovative is going on except it's "looks" and "exclusivity." It's an exploitive and niche market. The price is set where it is, because some people are happy to pay that price.

The King mod is a great example. It's a $230 clone of another $230 mod (Chi You). Or was it the other way around? Which came first the chicken or the egg? Regardless, same mod IMO, different laser engraving.

I can't remember which mech it was, but I read that one of the $200+ Pinoy mechs was actually manufactured in China, and as soon as the limited run was done, the China factory just kept making the EXACT SAME THING and it hit the market retailing for $20.

Oh yes, there is some of that and maybe a lot of that these days as there are more and more vapers around the world. Design aesthetics is a contribution for sure, but there is more on the technical side, even with mechs. Bottom buttons, different types of insulation (I think), magnetic buttons vs spring loaded, connection material coating, floating pins, telescoping. I'm no Mech Mod collector and wouldn't know the difference between a King or a Chi You, original or clone, and I've learned about these improvements/features.

Even "true mech", with all metal parts & no wires, has become a fad/improvement/innovation and quite different than the original and once extremely popular Silver Bullet. And then there is also the Hybrid style.

Do you really think this evolving technology and industry won't come up with more and that we are at state of the art with just any mech clone? Modders and Hobbiests are continually working on improvements. Others are just copying.

 

[SB2612]

A local shop in my area had a mech made from solid rose gold. Apparently there's only two of them made, one in the Philippines and the other being in their display case. It's $1000. I'd never buy, but hey. Someone might have deep enough pockets for it.


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[Racehorse]

just wish i would have known this when i bought 2 prodigies from puresmoker that i eventually threw in trash when i got my second reo (as a back up).

Try treasure chest next time. There are people who can barely afford to vape at all who would be thrilled to have a puresmoker, you know, one mans garbage is another man's treasure. .
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[certus11]

i would have a few of them legit stuff by now if my sister didnt cheat me out of all my money, she says in two weeks but it's been over two years haha.. low 6 figures

clone aquas and clone origin work

imma get the ramble eventually.

i only spend a lot when i can afford

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[flexsr]

I bet that piece for 1000 bucks is some weird clone - waiting for some sucker. I mean if the pieces dont have an intrinsic gold value than thats craaaaazy. All they do is delivery voltage/current to a 510 connection. Ay yi yi ---- i dont wanna "hate" and i don't wanna rain on anyones parade if thats there thing but i just wanna warn newcomers who are interested in mechs and most of you alls input confirmed my feelings that dont waste your money until you know what you are buying and why.

And if want a great mech mod buy a reo - ha. - no if you want a great mech mod you dont have to spend a lot. But if you are in the mech mod shopping phase and do have the money check out the reo. Its been great to me and exceeded expectations and my vaping experience (its on expensive side) for well over 3 years. (Cheapest n best way to vape seems like a cheap but NICE mech mod and a kayfunn/russian clone or a 39 mvp and a kayfun clone. )

Poster who mentioned about me throwing out the prodigies is right. I couldn't even give them away to friends - frankly there are 10 dollar clones with silver plated contact points (so they say) that are better than prodigy imho- if they cant afford 10 bucks maybe shouldnt vape but if i had known about such a place as you mentioned i surely would have donated

 

[SleeZy]

It's kinda like the people who buy an iphone just for the brand name.
Whilst you could get a better android phone for even a lower price, but then the iphone loves go "But it's not an iphone, iphones are better"

So there's 2 sides. Those who want those expensive brand names versis cheaper copies. Whilst both are equally good (often)
And for me personally my budget wouldn't allow me to buy authentic nemesis for example. I rather buy an copy + alot of other items with it for the price of 1.

Edit:
The only authenic expensive item i would get would be kayfuns or similar. As there seems to be all sorts of small problems with the clones. They're kinda hit and miss. But i've heard that even retail items comes with defects (which there shouldnt be with a price tag of 100$ +)

 

[meanckz]

well, before getting Semovar & Provari, I used inexpensive mods (Innokin SVD, MVP2, SID to name a couple) and I would continue using them if it wasn't for the 10 second cut off, since I vape rather cool I actually need the extra 5 (?) seconds I get from Semi & Vari.
As for mech mods, I have been using the inexpensive ones (no problems with those...i.e. Magneto, Natural, Bolts, a.o.) ... well now I have a couple of high-end ones coming my way, and I believe those should keep me happy for a bit (until I get around to searching for that DNA mod)

as long as it'll heat up my liquids enough to make them vaporize, I will be happy

 

[zanedog]

My wife makes afghans. If she was to sell one for the same price as a blanket from Wallies she would have been working for 1/10 of 1cent/hr.

How many afghani children has your wife produced? Does it not bother you that she is doing this? And by the way, selling children is illegal in the first place.

 

[jannodude]

I have a good buddy who swears by his mech clones. At first I almost went that route but I was sold by some mech mods being food grade 304 stainless steel is a BIG plus IMO. I'm able to wash my mech mod with soap and water without worries. That's my main argument/reason why I prefer original over clones(not saying clones are bad) when ever he brings up his "clones>authentic idea".

 

[leong jenny]

Aka flashlight tubes with silver or golf plated contacts. Which is great but i just saw a silver plated mechanical mod from china for 10 dollars shipped !

I know your mod is like a tattoo, an expression of ones self and i cant fault you at all then. or its a status symbol but $250 for a battery tube with the most simplest mechanical circuit known to man kind i cant faukt you either. Hey enjoy it if you got one and makes you happy - i have no business telling anyone what makes them happy. Some of them are very pretty and do deserve a markup i just dont see that big of markup. Post more designed to the newbie letting them know that a 25 dollar mech will perform just as good as a 250 one.

Same goes with these rbas. Been studying alot of reports from people who own the real ones and who own the clones and some say the clones work better. The designer should be compensated cause there is slightly more involved than a flashlight tube and its intellectual property but they still seem overpriced. Instead of $150 why not 50-70$. I think they would see a whole lot more people opt for the original than have a collection of $20 dollar kayfun clones

My final rant is that everyone who enjoys vaping and doesnt own a mechanical mod with a topper they they need to go out and get one. Cause your precious regulated vaporizer with a 15 dollar chinese chip (unless its a dna chip- but stuff can still go wrong with any chip) in it will break at some point. I hope it doesnt. Just be prepared and buy a 10 dollar mech mod so you can still vape while you scope out new mods and/or get your regulated mod fixed

I don't think there are big differences between real things and clones. Some people may have the cash to insist on the real ones but not everyone could afford that. I think that's why clones are created. At least we should give clones a try!

Leong Jenny

 

[zanthious]

some of it has to do with durability, ID rather my mod get run over and still work then having to keep dropping $50 every few months replacing my broken one. I am not abusing my mods but the security that if i drop it from a cliff it will still work is kind of nice. These $200+ mods dont look durable to me so who knows.

 

[tearose50]

A local shop in my area had a mech made from solid rose gold. Apparently there's only two of them made, one in the Philippines and the other being in their display case. It's $1000. I'd never buy, but hey. Someone might have deep enough pockets for it.


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If it's solid gold -- that's one heck of a deal. I believe gold is going for about $1350 an ounce these days and a mod would weigh quite a bit more than one ounce. I'm guessing it's gold filled (which could be quite nice) or a heavy gold electro-plating.

In any event, it is certainly too steep for most people's budgets (like mine), but could be fun to look at in a store. I'm sure it will be just the right thing for some well off Texan.

 

[StrappedKaos]

I have both, The only reason I buy a authentic is going to be to support someones great idea or to get something that would be hard to clone or if it did get cloned would not be of the same quality....I paid 200.00 for the Paragon 18650 last week, I would love them to come out with a Carbon Fiber mod at a clone price. I tend to buy clone rda/rta's since 90% are just a deck with posts and screws, something like a 3D or a large amount of thought would get my money even at 150.00 price tag. I take my clones as daily beaters as like easy say's "throw it in the gutta and go buy anotha", I just love when people say i dont wanna waste 15.00 on a clone that could break in a month and then I have to buy another and compare it to a 1:1 mod as if it is going to last any longer. As some say it's what the market will bare, Get it how you live!

 

[sawtoothscream]

I haved used a few $200+ dollar authentics and my $16 sentinel m16 and my brother $25 nemesis clone hit just as good if not better. For me I wont buy a $200 metal tube when the under $50 metal tube works the same

 

[tragictaste]

I can afford it, so I do. If I couldnt then I wouldnt, its that simple. Sometimes it just feels good to know that you are supporting a small business, and sometimes its just the pride of having something "high end" in your clollection. Why do some people spend 50..60..even 100k on a watch, is it worth it? Individual preference Always!

 

[Weizenheimer]

I don't get why people are always ranting about PCBs going bad. How many of them are in your house and car? How many of them have gone bad?

 

[flexsr]

Good points "sleezy". Also thats why im on the fence with kayfun clone versus real but to tell you the truth all my research tends to show that the great majority are very happy w their clones and a few more happy than the real thing. I have to pull the trigger - dying to try it.

Wow "mean"a 15 second hit !??!!! Thats gangsta buddy !!!! Provari and dna is different story. They are regulated for one thing and have proven the test of time and while expensive many say the peovari is great and will last a very long time - time will tell.

What i dont get and like is the people putting the dna in a simple plastic piece or design and charging insane prices for it. In same regard. I do respect house of hybrids who is making the zna with the dna 30- innovative design, fair price for what you get it seems, an american company putting 8-10 americans to work.

Someone explain the 150-200 rba/rta/rda to me ? Is it not metal with two posts on. They should be compensated for intellectual property somehow- but come on now that just seems crazy.

 

[zanedog]

I can afford it, so I do. If I couldnt then I wouldnt, its that simple. Sometimes it just feels good to know that you are supporting a small business, and sometimes its just the pride of having something "high end" in your clollection. Why do some people spend 50..60..even 100k on a watch, is it worth it? Individual preference Always!

With the price of cigarettes being over 14 dollars a pack here, the money I save makes it affordable to buy authentics. There is also a difference in materials of construction and workmanship. Pride of ownership is also of value to many people. If a couple hundred dollars is too expensive, then of course get the clone version. As with most things in life, you get what you pay for. My Maraxus clone is not as 'good' as the original, however I couldn't get an original.. Does the clone vape allright? Yes, but the brass color is wearing off, and the threads aren't quite as silky as the original i looked at. A couple clones I just gifted away after looking at how poorly they were made...

“I do not prize the word "cheap." It is not a badge of honor. It is a symbol of despair. Cheap prices make for cheap goods; cheap goods make for cheap men; and cheap men make for a cheap country.”

William McKinley, 25th President of USA (1896-1901). Assasinated at the beginning of his second term (1901) and succeeded by Vice President Theodore Roosevelt

 

[zanedog]

Aka flashlight tubes with silver or golf plated contacts. Which is great but i just saw a silver plated mechanical mod from china for 10 dollars shipped !

You should order that mod, and see for yourself if it is worth it to you personally. If you could post a link to this mod, perhaps someone might own it and could give your their thoughts on it.

 

[Gato del Jugo]

I do respect house of hybrids who is making the zna with the dna 30- innovative design, fair price for what you get it seems, an american company putting 8-10 americans to work.

They're up to more like 25 employees these days..

Not to mention providing business to their US suppliers...