Frustrated with regulated mods !
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I disagree. I have never had two mods, of any type, set to the same voltage, taste the exact same with the same atty.
It doesn't matter how many times I take the same atty off a mod and use it on another mod, it tastes different. Even use the same type of mod has a slight difference. It also doesn't matter if it's mech or regulated.
My mech is a hammer by kato with an 18650 battery tube and a 4 ml freemax scylla atty.well, if you like the mech better, how is it not as good as a "portable"? And what is a portable, anyway? This thread has me scratching my head to near baldness....I should go. Good luck figuring out why regulated power makes flavor disappear!
Trust me, it is not a portable, but great for home use.
He didn't say that he saw differences between mechs and regulated devices.
He said no two devices have performed the same for him using the same atty at the same voltage.
It could be two mechs, two regulated devices or one of each.
He said no two devices have performed the same for him using the same atty at the same voltage.
It could be two mechs, two regulated devices or one of each.
Just erased what I was writing when I read you post cuz now I'm confused..lol
I tried putting my head inside this one.
At higher power levels a single 185650 mech will usually have a slower ramp up time than an equivalent regulated device. Due to the mass of the coil, voltage sag and the fixed voltage source. It's possible that a given juice might respond to this power curve differently.
Anyway it's academic, if it tastes better for you on a mech, then use a mech, problem solved. Move along, and get me a pint of semi-skimmed milk while your at the shops.
At higher power levels a single 185650 mech will usually have a slower ramp up time than an equivalent regulated device. Due to the mass of the coil, voltage sag and the fixed voltage source. It's possible that a given juice might respond to this power curve differently.
Anyway it's academic, if it tastes better for you on a mech, then use a mech, problem solved. Move along, and get me a pint of semi-skimmed milk while your at the shops.
My only thought on this is, did you do the math to make sure the Wattage is high enough on your VW Device?
For example if you are running a .2ohm coil on a mech, you would need around 68 watts to to match the mech (using 3.7 volts) so if you were running your VW at 45 watts, you definitely would have a less flavorful vape.
That is the only thing I can think of. An online tool for the math is Steam Engine (if you don't already know about it)
If you already did the math, I got nothing.
For example if you are running a .2ohm coil on a mech, you would need around 68 watts to to match the mech (using 3.7 volts) so if you were running your VW at 45 watts, you definitely would have a less flavorful vape.
That is the only thing I can think of. An online tool for the math is Steam Engine (if you don't already know about it)
If you already did the math, I got nothing.
Sounds like your using a different Atty on your mech.. same atty should give your same flavor at the same power.
That's only because boards differ, so the power level it says it has can be slightly different board to board. This is why you have to find each mods sweet spot for your build/coil
It's actually the exact opposite. I vape at about your settings with just a bit more spread (warmer on the mechs and a bit less on var pwr to match apparent temp).
Flavor sensitive people can detect the texture of heat between variables and mechanicals. There are far more of us than people realize. Proof positive…the number of people that enjoy mech's. It's been kind of amusing to watch this discussion the 4 years I've been vaping and not see much discussion as to the "why" of it. In the same way that some prefer to eat their meals cooler than others and get better flavor, the same applies here. So yes, it does affect flavor.
Can you get more flavor out of a cooler vape. The answer is…absolutely. It is not more power that gets you there.
The closest, smoothest and coolest VW I ever encountered to a mech was the ZNA30. And that was essentially a mech with a board in it.
Good luck.
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Problem is not solved.
I do only use the mech at home.
Put I need a device for when I go out.
The mech is way to big to take out.
Humans don't have the best noses and palates in the animal kingdom but we are pretty good. We can sense very small changes. When I first started with temp control I was sure kanthal was better. I vaped on TC exclusively for 6 weeks and when I compared it to kanthal again and thought TC was superior. We like what we are used to. (A brother of mine has been hooked on his N mini at 13 watts for the past three years and won't consider anything else. I take a few puffs a week on my N mini with the same 16 watts and 150% pre-heat as my rda with stainless coil except no TC.) If the test has to be the first few puffs you'll never change anything.
The longer I vape the more I dislike mechs or any mention of them. They hurt people. Some people fiind that entertaining. I'm not one of them.
Truest thing said so far.
Respect what you said about mech's. They do require knowledge and personal discipline. But they'll still be around if we're all vaping one-size-fits-all.
Good luck.
I use the mech because that’s what I like the taste and flavor on.
If my regs gave me the same, I’d use them.
There's truth in this. If you look at some reviewers (PBusardo, Djlsb) they hook mods up to oscilloscopes. You can see the oscillation in the current. YiHi and Evolv are about the best, but it's still there. If you find a mod based on an OKR/OKL/Raptor board (like the older HexOhms) they have near DC output. Also the Big Al's boards use a 20khz PWM frequency which feels almost like DC. I use a couple of MOSFET based mods too, which are the most mech-like I've experienced...
I have one I made from a dead Tesla TC100, and the other I use is the Tesla Sub Two. Most modders will build a MOSFET box for you. Or it's the easiest type of mod to build yourself. Enclosure, sled, 510, MOSFET, switch and a bit of wire...
It's actually the exact opposite. I vape at about your settings with just a bit more spread (warmer on the mechs and a bit less on var pwr to match apparent temp).
Flavor sensitive people can detect the texture of heat between variables and mechanicals. There are far more of us than people realize. Proof positive…the number of people that enjoy mech's. It's been kind of amusing to watch this discussion the 4 years I've been vaping and not see much discussion as to the "why" of it. In the same way that some prefer to eat their meals cooler than others and get better flavor, the same applies here. So yes, it does affect flavor.
Can you get more flavor out of a cooler vape. The answer is…absolutely. It is not more power that gets you there.
The closest, smoothest and coolest VW I ever encountered to a mech was the ZNA30. And that was essentially a mech with a board in it.
Good luck.
I agree with you, it was just the only thing I could think of. The OP said he was just switching the RDA from one device to the other. I too enjoy a cool vape, and to achieve the same vape between a mech and an VW/Temp Device, I use different RDAs and builds between all three. Maybe that is what the OP needs to do, try a different RDA and build on the VW to try and get the vape he is looking for.
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