G-Tank-US-CO-OP Support Thread - Part 2

[Salt&PePPer]

Don't feel the need to deviate from the 400 mesh thing, I've done both, to me it doesn't seem to make any difference...I just used the 170 because way back in the day I got a 3' x 3' piece of it from a local guy for free (it was a sampler) and I've just been using it because I must of missed the post where someone said it doesn't work...kind of a "blissful Ignorance" thing on my part

Didn't work for them perhaps. Funny how we can listen to people and not learn from their follies. Just because they couldn't get it to work don't mean you can't get it to work! That and there are generally too many variables to take into account - like technique and equipment and type of ejuice and the Alignment of the Planets et al.

 

[Quigsworth]

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Didn't work for them perhaps. Funny how we can listen to people and not learn from their follies. Just because they couldn't get it to work don't mean you can't get it to work! That and there are generally too many variables to take into account - like technique and equipment and type of ejuice and the Alignment of the Planets et al.

Don't get me wrong, I love the peeps that take the time to post their successes/fails...I mean that's what this forum is all about...I'm not too proud to admit my learning curve on this subject is still climbing and it's been a year...but I sometimes do question whether some things I read on here are actually fact based or just dogma.

 

[Killjoy1]

but I sometimes do question whether some things I read on here are actually fact based or just dogma.

This is a very good point, as is Salt's post. I can't count the number of things regarding vaping hardware where my own experience and what I hear/read don't match at all. I can follow someone else's example to a T, sometimes, and not achieve anywhere near their results (good or bad).

That said, I got a chance to re-thread my hollow wick and it's not working too bad, but honestly I can't tell a difference between this and my solid wick . . . but then again it's filled with Boba's, so slow wicking is kinda expected. It's not exactly a fair test I'll have to try a different juice after it's empty

 

[Quigsworth]

Variables... and juice is just one of them...taste is of course subjective, intensity of flavour (are you vaping a melon or an RY4), PG/VG ratio, viscosity (my set up in October in Vancouver is rocking, some guy tries the "exact" same thing in Arizona in August and it's a leaky mess)...

Another variable which will test us...in the case of any top tank, which is sealed system not open to the atmosphere like a bottom tank...what altitude are you at???

I've only been on ECF and vaping for a year, but I've been around long enough to watch RBA use grow exponentially...and the number of posts asking "how the hell do you make this thing work?" pile up even faster...problem is, there is no sixth sigma solution...which is why I try to avoid falling into the trap of making "only do it this way, because that way won't work" statements...it's hard sometimes (especially when you're trying to help someone who's at their wits end) but if you don't, you become irrelevant

 

[bstedh]

Something to watch for, make sure your wick is straight. If it is slightly canted the nipple will pull it strait and tighten one side of the coil on it possibly creating a short at the coil and not necessarily at the nipple.

A skim coat of epoxy in the bottom hole and nipple hole can be very helpful.

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[goat29]

just got a cobalt drill set and drilled out the nipple, went thru ex. made a new wick 400s at 35mmx35mm,squelched it 4 times then cir paper trick and wrapped 3/4 with 34ga kathal 2.2 ohm, it has been vapping like champ. suppressed me didnt take much material out at all, got my pv set at 4.2, thxs all

 

[goat29]

forgot to say i used a 3/32 bit

 

[Scubabatdan]

just got a cobalt drill set and drilled out the nipple, went thru ex. made a new wick 400s at 35mmx35mm,squelched it 4 times then cir paper trick and wrapped 3/4 with 34ga kathal 2.2 ohm, it has been vapping like champ. suppressed me didnt take much material out at all, got my pv set at 4.2, thxs all

forgot to say i used a 3/32 bit

Excellent, thanks for the feed back!
Congrats!
Dan

 

[goat29]

i have to say that my gtus now after drilling out the nipple chain vapes as well as my oddy, they both are at 2.2om, using same pvn

 

[MikeE3]

forgot to say i used a 3/32 bit

When using 3/32 bit, did any of the nipple's protrusion remain?

 

[dirquist]

I wish I could get my GTUS to work

 

[Killjoy1]

Hey, man, sorry you're still having troubles with it. In all this time I've had mine I still don't get it perfect every time (sometimes not even good). Heck, I keep trying new things in order to get the kind of performance I know it's capable of. I think I've made a step in the right direction with my last setup, now that I'm using a thinner juice it's vaping better than it ever has, but it's been a painful journey of poor wicking and shorted coils and general frustration. It's still not a perfect vape for my taste, though, just another step in the right direction.

I really do hope you have a sudden "Ah-ha!" moment soon and it just suddenly clicks for you

 

[rusalka]

I have my plate full enough, but I hear a rumor for a second run of these...

 

[rusalka]

I wish I could get my GTUS to work

You may want to try the setup I have on mine. I roll my wick with the dimension of 20mmx30mm. With the 20mm length wise. I use a small paper clip for center hole. I also use the paper trick on the coil. After I stick my wick through the mid cap I trim it diagonally to look like this.



I also use something to slightly expand out the wick at the top. Like this.



I hope this helps out some for you.

 

[dirquist]

rusalka, Ill try your set up next, thanks for posting.

Killjoy. Ya, its just one of those things for me. I dont get a lot of time to play with it, and with 3 Penelopes, a pheonix and bulli lying around that all vape amazing and are easy to build I guess Im not crazy motivated enough to just find a way to make it happen come heck or high water. Basically I bought the torch, the wire, made sure I had a paperclip, but dont have epoxy or rolling papers so Im still missing helpful parts of all this. I need to get more wick now also and need to find a place to buy it. Im sure Ill find someplace easy enough, I assume.

One quick question about shorting, since I dont feel I understand all the causes of it. So am I to understand that no part of the metal wick can touch any part of that metal divot at the base nor the T-tube at the top since I dont have the nylon pieces that came with it, without using the thin epoxy coat? Im really not that hyped about putting epoxy in there plus Im not even sure what kind to get.

Ug, I love it and want to use it but I need to get more motivated to find a way. Id give it a try right now but my 2year old isnt cooperating and believe me, this isnt an operation that can be done with him at his most inspired, Ive tried.

 

[rusalka]

rusalka, Ill try your set up next, thanks for posting.

Killjoy. Ya, its just one of those things for me. I dont get a lot of time to play with it, and with 3 Penelopes, a pheonix and bulli lying around that all vape amazing and are easy to build I guess Im not crazy motivated enough to just find a way to make it happen come heck or high water. Basically I bought the torch, the wire, made sure I had a paperclip, but dont have epoxy or rolling papers so Im still missing helpful parts of all this. I need to get more wick now also and need to find a place to buy it. Im sure Ill find someplace easy enough, I assume.

One quick question about shorting, since I dont feel I understand all the causes of it. So am I to understand that no part of the metal wick can touch any part of that metal divot at the base nor the T-tube at the top since I dont have the nylon pieces that came with it, without using the thin epoxy coat? Im really not that hyped about putting epoxy in there plus Im not even sure what kind to get.

Ug, I love it and want to use it but I need to get more motivated to find a way. Id give it a try right now but my 2year old isnt cooperating and believe me, this isnt an operation that can be done with him at his most inspired, Ive tried.

As far as rolling paper. I used a single ply toilet paper to get the job done before I bought some. It may sound "gross", but it got the job done. Just get the wick wet then roll the wick over the tissue to "grab" it.

 

[Killjoy1]

One quick question about shorting, since I dont feel I understand all the causes of it. So am I to understand that no part of the metal wick can touch any part of that metal divot at the base nor the T-tube at the top since I dont have the nylon pieces that came with it, without using the thin epoxy coat? Im really not that hyped about putting epoxy in there plus Im not even sure what kind to get.

No, the epoxy coat isn't absolutely necessary. Your wick can touch the metal parts, but it has to be properly oxidized. The epoxy thing is just a shortcut/failsafe kinda thing ;-) As long as your coil doesn't short against the mesh (again, proper oxidization is key, whether it be done by torching, juice burns and/or the paper trick, etc) then it really won't matter what your wick is touching.

The cause of shorting is simply when the coil contacts the mesh without a good layer of oxidization between them, causing the path of the current to go through the mesh instead of the coil wire. Electricity always takes the path of least resistance and the mesh's inherent resistance is less than that of the kanthal, so if it has the opportunity to bypass the kanthal it will.

Hope that's the info you're looking for

 

[supervape]

Paper trick? Sorry can't find it can someone reiterate please

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[theECB]

Instead of the epoxy in the bottom I just used a tiny bit of cotton stuffed down in there. It won't ever burn and keeps things from touching. I can't get the wick rolled super tight so I just use less mesh. I would say about 22mm or so? I also keep my wick really short like Rusalka does. Having the rolling paper on there helps because once it burns away your wick has a tiny little space around it that helps the coil not dig into the mesh wick and keeps the shorts away.

I think the important part is to not have the wick fitting too tight in the upper hole. It should just pass through it without much resistance. This allows for air to re-enter the top chamber and aids in wicking as well.

You can also use a tiny bit of cotton on the wick where it passes into the top tank to keep it isolated. Just roll the wick over a cotton ball until it catches a few fibers...you don't need much at all!

Good luck!

 

[Scubabatdan]

Paper trick? Sorry can't find it can someone reiterate please

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Paper trick:



Dan