*GEM: A new RTA by MarkBugs
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Yah it's crazy that shipping is so fast. Mine will be here tomorrow about 48 hrs after leaving Romania. If the tracking info is on point.
Congrats on your gem.
As for buying a ti provari to run it. I have a p3. It's well built and I love he boost feature. I don't even mind the 20 watts.
The issue I have is how large it is even in 350 mode it's like 650 mode on other mods. I guess that would be ok if it was maybe lighter. what's the weight difference on the ti from the regular p3?
Off topic provari question
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Also do any of the mod makers offer p3 connection? I think svöemësto do but I'm thinking like GP or markbugs etc. I know house of hybrids do the kabuki in p3 I guess anyone making their own probably don't. Which is a shame. No harm in giving customers choice.
I thought Provape may have a list of atomizers with provari connection but if they do I can't find it.
Color matching mod with titanium gem
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I saw the ti in the wae ii and it doesn't quite fit at least in @qorax video the color difference looks off. So I guess the old gem stays on that. I'd love to find s good titanium mod to put it on. By the ti provari is extremely expensive. Can anyone make a few mech mods that may match the color scheme?
I use 490 mode on my two P3s. Still pretty long and especially with a KF4. Not too bad with Kabukis. It's that chip inside the tube, seems so archaic it should use up so much length. Archaic PV design, not the chip.
To my limited knowledge, I've only come across HoH, Kayfun and Nautilus that supply P3 connections. And I think Nautilus has discontinued that.
Not sure about the weight difference between Ti/Regular P3. But my guess is that Mr Bugs will introduce a titanium Apprentice soon (at a hefty price) which would obviously be a perfect match for the Ti Gem. And P. Busardo's review on the Apprentice demonstrates how much shorter that mod is relative to other 18650s. I myself might hold off on the Ti P3 and start saving up the bucks.
I prefer this ring. It's as straight as it gets. Don't like the angle on the 22mm.
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Oh I didn't realize pbusardo did an apprentice review. I don't know what the prices are for his mech mods. I do know I won't pay the $400 likely to be barges if he does a regulated ti limited. It's just too much for a super old chip bag doesn't really give me the temp control I need. I kind of wish he'd shifted away from Evolv and put one of the now very inexpensive Yihi chips (not the 350j the new one hats inside a bunch of $50 mods) as they work amazingly. Temp control is great with them and the chip is small apparently. I'd rather have seen that change for more technology given the price point. I bought the wae due to the discount and I'm really glad I did. But I don't think I would have paid more than half retail for it.
Surely there are titanium
Finished mods that maybe aren't made of titanium around ? If not I have a feeling it will look great on the 3D boxer box either in the Alu- finish or the black fabric. Regular gem looks great on it and the darker should suit it more
Ive got a fair few things to post for sale and when those do sell I'll figure out what I want to
Mount the new ti gem on. But I'd really like to see photos! When mine arrives I'll Contribute some on the various mods I have both regulated and mechanical. If anyone with a ti wants to
Post shots on things other than wae and provari (they've been posted) that would be great.
I agree. I prefer the gem / p3 with the hard line break than the sloped rocket look.
I am looking forward to getting my p3 back repaired. They sent me an email today saying it's being inspected. Their support has been fantastic so far.
Mark Bugs' Wizards had always been Titanium. The Wizard, as well as the Wizard's Apprentice Evolved. It was only upon our requests that he manufactured the WAE-I & II in stainless steel.
Oh that's interesting. What caused the push to go from ti to ss? Durability? Looks? I was wondering if the color would be the same as the classic gem but I thought it would be darker. Your video shows that. I like the "matchy matchy" of the
wae ii / OG (hah original gem)
guess we will see when a titanium mod arrives nor are you saying they're here? The one I have (in your video) I assumed is stainless. I don't
Know about how metal incited or treated to
Color it - only for computer frames where it's typically anodized or painted. So I wasn't sure how the finish would be.
Everything Mark Bugs made pre-2013 was in Titanium. They were famed for it. Come December we started bugging(!) Bugs at Vapor Wall, after the success of WAE (Wizard's Apprentice Evolved, which is uh, rightfully a Titanium device per their tradition) to make one in SS with a near matching shade. Media Blasted Satin finish.
Things were getting expensive, economies were in doldrums, spare change was hmm, non-existent in many regions, counterfeits were reckoning ala Hydra everywhere ~ and folks loved Mark Bugs' products. They are the original "metal magicians" you see! Thus, the call for a cheaper alternative ~ but under the realms of a original Mark Bugs.
Btw, their Titanium products are untreated for color. What you see is the original shade of implant grade Titanium (UNS R56401). So is the color of the GEM-Ti. Real Titanium 'pewter gray silver'.
Today, at my driveway, while shoveling!
Well thanks very much for he detailed history. I want buying boutique authentics back before then in fact I was just getting back into vaping after I failed to quit smoking due to the unsatisfactory cartomizers which were around in the mod to late 2000s. So thinks helpful!
Today, at my driveway, while shoveling!
Also in that photo - it's hard to know if it's a white balance thing (snow throws off white balance horribly) or if it matches better than I thought. It looks like the highlights of the ti gem match the wae ii so it's maybe a better fit than I thought. That said the OG matches it perfectly so I'll probably reserve the ti to other devices. Honestly the ti will likely never leave my house as I have an OG and a piccoloid. I can't see an occasion I'd need to risk the beauty in the wild! Honestly after getting the piccoloid I can't see taking another device out at all unless I need more than the 2.5-3ml it offers. It's js it the perfect out and about.
It would be really interesting for markbugs to create a tiny design like that. I for
One would be very interested if he can come up with something innovative like the gem in a 16mm 14500 form factor (note I don't mean a 16mm gem, that would be pretty much impossible!). I guess he probably never will because these days it's all about sub ohm which of course means big batteries. Every time im out and see small storm Clouds being blown from what appear to be litre bottles attached to wheelbarrows with batteries in them I wonder how much longer we will see the small mods.
Still it sure would be great for Mark bugs to work on a broader range with some truly small meticulous pieces as well as maybe trying the sub ohm tanks. I'd imagine the creation of a sub tank is probably already at least in draft stages. Maybe we can get everyone who wanted stainless to ask for a tiny meticulous flavor monster to compete with the piccoloid
Thanks again! You've been on the money with the piccoloid recommendation. Gem mesh tutorial and a bunch of other stuff. Have you ever tried the taifun gs2. I need to find a 19mm mech for mine. It's a flavor monster between the piccoloid and gem. Perhaps Mark bugs will make something that size if not 16mm. Where's your chalice video!
Eh well I just bought a second wae ii DNA 30 for $89 from electronicstix l. Wish I got that deal the first time!
They put more in stock at $99 and had a 10% off coupon. I don't need it but it's a really nice mod and if I don't end up wanting it I'm pretty sure I can sell it at cost or minimal loss. Vs kicking about deciding and they sell the fee they have like last time.
Not sure how many more they have but its in stock after my order. If anyone wants one I'd go now when we got the first ones they were supposed to be out. Then they had a couple retail they must have added.
Code is STAYFROSTY for 10% off and the link to the in stock wae ii is Wizard's Apprentice Evolved II- By Mark Bugs - ElectronicStix.Com
Now to sell the heron v2 and paps v4 HnP kit, phenomenon lite and g22, and taifun gt2 plus all the extras. As well as a few mainstream things. And probably the provari p3. That's a big list of to sell so I guess I really like the gem/ wae. Heh
They put more in stock at $99 and had a 10% off coupon. I don't need it but it's a really nice mod and if I don't end up wanting it I'm pretty sure I can sell it at cost or minimal loss. Vs kicking about deciding and they sell the fee they have like last time.
Not sure how many more they have but its in stock after my order. If anyone wants one I'd go now when we got the first ones they were supposed to be out. Then they had a couple retail they must have added.
Code is STAYFROSTY for 10% off and the link to the in stock wae ii is Wizard's Apprentice Evolved II- By Mark Bugs - ElectronicStix.Com
Now to sell the heron v2 and paps v4 HnP kit, phenomenon lite and g22, and taifun gt2 plus all the extras. As well as a few mainstream things. And probably the provari p3. That's a big list of to sell so I guess I really like the gem/ wae. Heh
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Thank you for that insight. I certainly hope they re-introduce the Titanium editions again. I find it rather unique they are specialists in titanium.
Here's Ti next to SS. Not a huge difference, but enough that the SS gem annoyed me a bit mounted on the Ti wizard. you can tell the SS a little lighter when there mounted together.
I would love it if Mark made a Ti Chalice, I'd want a bunch of them I'm mostly a bottom feeder type of guy, these 4 tubes are my only non bottom feeder mods period. I would love it even more if Mark ever got around to actually making a bottom feeder, now THAT would be SICK! a Mark Bugs Titanium DNA200 bottom feeder... Hell I'd trade one of my cars for that
I would love it if Mark made a Ti Chalice, I'd want a bunch of them
I'm mostly a bottom feeder type of guy, these 4 tubes are my only non bottom feeder mods period. I would love it even more if Mark ever got around to actually making a bottom feeder, now THAT would be SICK! a Mark Bugs Titanium DNA200 bottom feeder... Hell I'd trade one of my cars for that
Thanks forHere's Ti next to SS. Not a huge difference, but enough that the SS gem annoyed me a bit mounted on the Ti wizard. you can tell the SS a little lighter when there mounted together.
I would love it if Mark made a Ti Chalice, I'd want a bunch of them
Posting that. Sure is a lot
Of Mark bugs! Makes me feel better about my double gem / wae ii. Not a big difference especially considering the finish of the wae ii. Which is much closer than plain stainless. However. Eh who knows. Im fickle.
So I guess the information I got before hat they had two remaining in retail is right. Unless more than one other person grabbed the wae ii after I posted the link. It's sold it again. Likely for
Good.
Who got it. Fess up!
not I, I thought about it when you posted it but then thought really, I'd rather just pick up another Ti gem if I was going to fire up a credit card right now. unfortunately timing just isn't right for that
mark bugs stuff really dominates all of my vape gear, I got a bunch of chalices on my bottom feeders. there's really no other brand of anything that I have multiples off really, but mark bugs stuff, just can't get enough. really is the best of the best far as I'm concerned
mark bugs stuff really dominates all of my vape gear, I got a bunch of chalices on my bottom feeders. there's really no other brand of anything that I have multiples off really, but mark bugs stuff, just can't get enough. really is the best of the best far as I'm concerned
I'm finally at a point where I e tried enough gear. I've managed to find one other setup I absolutely love. Aside from that the gem whe it wicks properly is fantastic.not I, I thought about it when you posted it but then thought really, I'd rather just pick up another Ti gem if I was going to fire up a credit card right now. unfortunately timing just isn't right for that
mark bugs stuff really dominates all of my vape gear, I got a bunch of chalices on my bottom feeders. there's really no other brand of anything that I have multiples off really, but mark bugs stuff, just can't get enough. really is the best of the best far as I'm concerned
I do find the gem in temp control gives me better flavor. It is also the only way I fm can get it to wick reasonably and consistently. I'm Jr. Sure why I have such problems wih he OG but I'm assuming the new ti chimney will solve the one issue I have. The piccoloid I wick wih rayon but I can't get a good amount of rayon in the gem no matter how I build it. Either too much or too little. It's odd Tay temp control can work flawlessly for me but not kanthal builds. I believe it's the way I vape and what temp ctrl is doing regarding cutting power. No can get away with hits that would come off at semi dry because it's curbing it back.
Basically how @qorax showed the mesh wick cutting is how I cut the gem wick. Same principle is to just turn the wick up and cut it along the deck screws. Same result I should say.
Anyway. With a few decent temp decides a couple of wea ii and a piccoloid for out and about I feel like I've got the best of the best for my needs. I may pick up a chalice iii and bottom feeder setup if I ever see one second hand. I'm infamiliar with bottom feeders and there are no really small ones so I'm not going to rush into spending $200 when I don't know how if at all it will fit in.
I really look forward to what else they come up with but I'm officially finished buying / trying new stuff. I've got the perfect setup for me now. Happens that it includes a gem or two
One day I'll get a kanthal build in the OG that isn't terrible. I'm working on it. I've literally tried everything. He only thing that works is thinning my juice with distilled water. Which is what I've Ben doing on the wae. I guess I can only get away with 90% vg undiluted if imbuing temp
Control and stuffing the coil whilst cutting it short.
@qorax knows what I'm talking about when I say a gem / wae with temp control mod on the side for home use and a piccoloid may be the ultimate combination. For those who haven't tried he piccoloid. Do it. It's awesome. 8 hrs /3 ml or so from 2 14500. If you don't vape more than 1.5-2 ml In half a day you could probably get by without taking spares. Providing you do good research.
Clearly I'm enamored with these two.
Honorable mention to the kabuki using triton mini coils for a tank which take disposables on top of a provari p3 or evic mini - but I'm not convinced the full Size triton 2 with 1.8 coils wouldn't be better.
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1) The color shades of the mod and the atty as you see is exactly like that in real. however, the silver accents of the atty are not like that as it seems (matching with the color of the (WAE-II). If you look closer they are actually shiny, well polished accents. Whereas, the WAE-II is a satiny finish. However, the combo actually looks classy. There's something about that mismatch which is sincerely appealing.
2) I have already discussed with him about a slimmer regulated tube mod for 14500 batts. Couldn't work out the details yet b'coz the current DNA board sizes won't be very accommodating. I have also indicated something in the shape & size of the iStick (first version. The only one I like in that brand) - or something in a lipstick size (see below). But nothing concrete has come out of it too.
3) I have a Taifun GS, which I just don't like. Thus never bought the v2.
4) I am not sold [yet] on bottom feeders - thus haven't fetched one. I basically like sleek devices. Even box mods are not my thing.
there are sleek bottom feeders. here's a chalice with 8.5 ml's on board. flavor and vapor wise, it at least matches the gem at it's best and honestly, in most cases it actually blows it away because again, always a perfect fully saturated wick, unaffected by vacuum,wicking and feeding issues, so 20, 30, 40 watts or whatever is no problem.
Yah that's the appealing part. It's a dripper without the inconvenience. I'll probably buy a cheap bottom Feeder setup To try. I need to find the right mod firstthere are sleek bottom feeders. here's a chalice with 8.5 ml's on board. flavor and vapor wise, it at least matches the gem at it's best and honestly, in most cases it actually blows it away because again, always a perfect fully saturated wick, unaffected by vacuum,wicking and feeding issues, so 20, 30, 40 watts or whatever is no problem.
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