*GEM: A new RTA by MarkBugs
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On the SS it's 2 segments - the straight chimney tube screws into the first wider section. Can't make a pic as I just rewicked and filled it.
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well you learn something every day. I didnt know that! Apparently the chimney unscrews from the top piece and I didnt even notice that so what do I know!! lol!On the SS it's 2 segments - the straight chimney tube screws into the first wider section. Can't make a pic as I just rewicked and filled it.
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ps. your spare tanks ends look as ragged as mine!
NOW you unscrew it next time you clean it
The pic is not mine, it's from the VapinArt site. The original glass tanks indeed look that bad, but the custom spare IBTanked ones are perfect.
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The only thing I would like with the gem is a plastic tank, I just like my custard juices out of pmma tank for some reason and glass has its place of course, like my cereal vapes have to be in glass or steel and my cinnamon vapes, but for me custards taste better in pmma and I truly beleave I notice the difference and in these bottom fed tanks glass seems to be way cooler, it's a bit like steel drip tip in the squape at 12 watts gives me a very cold vape sensation but as soon as I pop Teflon on it changes lol, maybe it's in my head but I would like the option, if I don't get the option direct I am going to have some made after Xmas
I never knew either, tho I was a Beta tester
until someone posted about it in this thread. And by God I tried, mine's do not split up. Both of my Gems. They both are rock-solid one piece in my units.
Yep, it was weeks, maybe months, before I realized that the chimney was two parts. That's Mark Bugs build quality, so good you don't even notice the seam.
Is the afc really loose? How do you guys keep it in place? It's not that big a deal considering it's so easy to put back in its place, but trying to figure out whether it's all GEMs or just mine.
The flavor I get out of this is finally better than my kfl+. Even the erlprinz doesn't come close. According to my vaping preferences
Lemo II<Erlprinz<kfl+<gem
My favorite rta!!
Edit - my questions are answered a few posts above. All good!
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The flavor I get out of this is finally better than my kfl+. Even the erlprinz doesn't come close. According to my vaping preferences
Lemo II<Erlprinz<kfl+<gem
My favorite rta!!
Edit - my questions are answered a few posts above. All good!
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I'm not party to that info yet Steve, I guess it'd be something around 200+ Euros.looks good. Larger JF is nice and will solve some of the issues peopel are having I think. Serial number a great idea - wish he had done it with the SS! Ans the spares baggy now standard! Joy
Any idea of pricing brother?? I doubt whether I wll indulge myself but interesting to know!
But boy, with the metal tank - this thing weighs next to NOTHING
I'm not party to that info yet Steve, I guess it'd be something around 200+ Euros.
But boy, with the metal tank - this thing weighs next to NOTHING
That was the kind of number I had in mind but I guess we will see!! I have a couple of Ti atties and they are amazingly light. I have drip tips that weigh more!! haha
It will weigh just a tad more than half the ss version!
Any into evening to the glass manufacturing or if it's a design flaw something that lifts the glass off hard metal?
The fasttech glass just arrived here. I'm going to post original from my calipers and replacement dimensions.
Here we go.
Orginal:
Height - 25.62mm
Outer diameter - 20mm
Thickness - 1.3mm
Fasttech glass
Height - 25.46mm
Outer diameter - 20.05mm
Thickness - 1.3mm
I'll paste a link here for the five packs. As you can see the only thing off really would be height and I'd argue a tenth of a mm is probably fine though I haven't mounted it yet j can't see that being a problem or impacting juice volume much. Lol
This is off by the margin of error of my calipers I'm sure.
$3.08 Replacement Glass Tank for GEM RTA Atomizer (5-Pack) 5-pack at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
You tell me which is which I'll even post full size. $3.08 for five of them. I'm ordering another pack. $4.77 with 8-12 day shipping for five of them.
The fasttech glass just arrived here. I'm going to post original from my calipers and replacement dimensions.
Here we go.
Orginal:
Height - 25.62mm
Outer diameter - 20mm
Thickness - 1.3mm
Fasttech glass
Height - 25.46mm
Outer diameter - 20.05mm
Thickness - 1.3mm
I'll paste a link here for the five packs. As you can see the only thing off really would be height and I'd argue a tenth of a mm is probably fine though I haven't mounted it yet j can't see that being a problem or impacting juice volume much. Lol
This is off by the margin of error of my calipers I'm sure.
$3.08 Replacement Glass Tank for GEM RTA Atomizer (5-Pack) 5-pack at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
You tell me which is which I'll even post full size. $3.08 for five of them. I'm ordering another pack. $4.77 with 8-12 day shipping for five of them.
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Glass cont'd
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I measured a second authentic mark bugs glass and it was shorter than the first. Two different runs on the gem. The second glass was 24.8mm high and it's also a bit lose compared to the other glass when seated in the little ring. In this case the replacement fits better than the one that came with the gem
The height of the replacement glass is more consistent than between two runs of the gem which is not unexpected.
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Withdrawn edit to consider a different form of communication regarding the issues some of us face and the discussion of a chimney upgrade program.
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I measured a second authentic mark bugs glass and it was shorter than the first. Two different runs on the gem. The second glass was 24.8mm high and it's also a bit lose compared to the other glass when seated in the little ring. In this case the replacement fits better than the one that came with the gem
The height of the replacement glass is more consistent than between two runs of the gem which is not unexpected.
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Withdrawn edit to consider a different form of communication regarding the issues some of us face and the discussion of a chimney upgrade program.
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For those curious about twisted wire. You can only get 5 wraps including lead in/ out and on the wae ii you're pushing under .5 though it does fire.
Has to be a 2mm wrap due to outside diameter
Here's a look. Update this post with thoughts on the vape. Max volts is 3.9 at 30 watts
It was shorting the screws as mentioned below.
All in all its a pain to build but an improvement in flavor and vapor density as you'd expect to get with twisted wire. The vapor production at lower power level that are needed is lower but more dense. Probably not the build on this deck for me though I use nothing but twisted in a couple other devices. It's a pain to fit. The loss in inner diameter is noticeable. The extra wire cost and effort are definitely not worth it here.
Has to be a 2mm wrap due to outside diameter
Here's a look. Update this post with thoughts on the vape. Max volts is 3.9 at 30 watts
It was shorting the screws as mentioned below.
All in all its a pain to build but an improvement in flavor and vapor density as you'd expect to get with twisted wire. The vapor production at lower power level that are needed is lower but more dense. Probably not the build on this deck for me though I use nothing but twisted in a couple other devices. It's a pain to fit. The loss in inner diameter is noticeable. The extra wire cost and effort are definitely not worth it here.
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if the screws are too high then they short to the cap, as in with thick wires... this is probably your issue, try cranking down on the screws hard to compress the twist under the screws so they sit a little lower, fractions of a mm make a difference
Dear sir,
First off, I am not a reviewer. Not in the traditional sense, like one who gets tons of gear/s and then s/he deliberates on it's pros & cons. I purchase most of my gears. And that I do after some research. And thankfully - baring a minuscule few - all my purchases have worked out to be like what I thought it would be. And I only upload videos of the ones I like. The stuff I don't like are not talked by me at all. Neither as a video, nor as a Pictorial on ECF, Vaporwall, Wackedout e-Cig Canada or FB. As such my 'reviews' are more like a showcase of a product I like and found to work fine for me. Which is why most of them will talk about the niceties of the product. Remember, the ones I don't like have been already left out. Case in point SQuape-R, Atomo, Nemesis, Hammer etc. I have them, costed a nice chunk, but never talked about them.
Secondly, I do beta test many products. And am known to write a comprehensive report of my observations / opinions / recommendations. The modders are aware of that - and all of my findings are usually taken care of. Thus, launches of some devices do get delayed. GEM was one of those. However, my opinions will be based on my type of vaping. And I am not a "know all" guy. So, some lacunae albeit will be found in those findings of mine.
Thirdly, all atties are not alike. All devices do not perform the same under similar conditions (of setup build, style of vaping, patterns of draw, viscosity of liquid etc.). GEM is not a Kayfun, a Kayfun is not an Erlkonigin, an Erlkonigin is not a Calix, a Calix is not a Phenomenon... you get the drift. They are all different - behave differently - and are meant for their own sector of vaping / vapers. And yes, they each have their own market segment as well.
Fourthly, the GEM spares. Yes, I am with you. And this I have voiced all along. In this very forum - as well as in one of my videos of this atty. And btw, MB listened to me and sent me a truckload of spares baggies to be redistributed amongst all the erstwhile purchasers. For which, I ran a list and shipped them all entirely on my cost. And no, it wasn't only for ECF, it was for all the forums I am part of, including FB. And that list was huge.
Fifthly, specific to the GEM's quality control. Kindly note that I can only speak for what I have. And how I vape, prefer &/or like. My GEMs, two in SS and now one in Ti, all are perfect. Per me. I have no issues of the like what you speak about. Neither in wicking, nor in TC or with the glass or its build quality as a whole. Yes, I also have the first prototype - which had issues - and which were handled before I received the final production sample. The sale units were further tweaked based on our last reports as well. And I do have received one of the sales units. Which does work perfectly too. But, as again, that's per my vaping style.
Nonetheless, pls bear in mind that I do understand that few folks are having issues - and those shouldn't have been there at all. Mainly on QC front. Which I am with you all - a quality product shouldn't be found wanting. But then, Breitlings did have issues once.
Once again, I am first a vaper, exactly like you. Have spent good enough of my time and monies on this hobby. So I am with you. And I hope you understand that brother!
Best wishes,
Stan
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@qorax
Thanks for the detailed answer . I hope you understand first and foremost I do really enjoy your videos and find them helpful as well as you to be as I stated a very likable personality. I appreciate the work that you do and what I mentioned as I stated was only meant as a viewer of your videos as some possibly helpful feedback. I guess form the ones I saw I misunderstood some things.
Please accept my apology if I offended you. I really didn't intend to.
I didn't know you'd provided that kind of feedback. In the gem video specifically I was under the impression you actually hadn't had issues with he beta you'd been using for a while.
I don't expect you to have used all the different juices. I guess, perhaps incorrectly, just felt like a lot of people when they see only positives from someone with vast experience and lots of videos with boutique pieces wrongly assume there has been some sort of a certain testing criteria that is met. For myself I don't rely on single reviews and however helpful understand vaping style greatly varies. Unfortunately I've met a lot of people who don't necessarily do research beyond one established youtuber's videos. That's all I meant. I'm sorry if at all it seemed like I blame you for the problems as a beta tester Nicollet be farther from what I meant.
I guess you're kind of like Steve huff is in photography. He doesn't review camera gear he doesn't like. With very rare exception of something super high profile fails miserably. I understand.
Anyway. Thanks again for he videos and help you provide I am very sorry if you felt my comments were insulting. Rude. Or intentionally critical toward no end. As I said before thats certainly not the spirit in which they were made. Though I realize I probably should have separated them from the overall feeling of frustration in that post towards the mark bugs entity.
I apologize.
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The the greater point of the post. The largest problem Arriving from Mark bugs is a lack of communication. I really want to know if this is a language barrier. Time constraint or lack of caring about post sale support. The glass and wicking issues are the two largest I've seen discussed along with the fact he's hard to
Get ahold of. And of course accessory purchase for the gem specifically.
Edit. I removed my questions about your videos to keep clarity on the focal point and avoid any confusion. As well as hopefully avoid a million people that love you in here from trying to take my head off thinking I meant you any ill will!
Thanks for the detailed answer . I hope you understand first and foremost I do really enjoy your videos and find them helpful as well as you to be as I stated a very likable personality. I appreciate the work that you do and what I mentioned as I stated was only meant as a viewer of your videos as some possibly helpful feedback. I guess form the ones I saw I misunderstood some things.
Please accept my apology if I offended you. I really didn't intend to.
I didn't know you'd provided that kind of feedback. In the gem video specifically I was under the impression you actually hadn't had issues with he beta you'd been using for a while.
I don't expect you to have used all the different juices. I guess, perhaps incorrectly, just felt like a lot of people when they see only positives from someone with vast experience and lots of videos with boutique pieces wrongly assume there has been some sort of a certain testing criteria that is met. For myself I don't rely on single reviews and however helpful understand vaping style greatly varies. Unfortunately I've met a lot of people who don't necessarily do research beyond one established youtuber's videos. That's all I meant. I'm sorry if at all it seemed like I blame you for the problems as a beta tester Nicollet be farther from what I meant.
I guess you're kind of like Steve huff is in photography. He doesn't review camera gear he doesn't like. With very rare exception of something super high profile fails miserably. I understand.
Anyway. Thanks again for he videos and help you provide I am very sorry if you felt my comments were insulting. Rude. Or intentionally critical toward no end. As I said before thats certainly not the spirit in which they were made. Though I realize I probably should have separated them from the overall feeling of frustration in that post towards the mark bugs entity.
I apologize.
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The the greater point of the post. The largest problem Arriving from Mark bugs is a lack of communication. I really want to know if this is a language barrier. Time constraint or lack of caring about post sale support. The glass and wicking issues are the two largest I've seen discussed along with the fact he's hard to
Get ahold of. And of course accessory purchase for the gem specifically.
Edit. I removed my questions about your videos to keep clarity on the focal point and avoid any confusion. As well as hopefully avoid a million people that love you in here from trying to take my head off thinking I meant you any ill will!
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You don't have to buddy, I understood that it wasn't your ire against me.
Oh good. That relieves me. I felt really bad I said something that was taken as an insult or otherwise hurtful. You've been nothing but helpful and friendly. As have the videos.
Side note. The tanks that cracked for me were both from The same atomizer. They were the longer ones not the shorter ones.
And for those who missed it there's a fast tech spares analysis back there. Summary. They're the same or better than what comes with the gem.
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