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Thanks for sharing...It's good to see that your 7 years of college has finally paid off...I think we all learned something today...
I can't seem to write anything that doesn't sound patronizing...

LOL I'll put up with with your patronizing if you put up with my pompous assedness. :D
 

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Thanks for sharing...It's good to see that your 7 years of college has finally paid off...I think we all learned something today...
I can't seem to write anything that doesn't sound patronizing...

Me neither, only I wonder whether Bach and Chopin were regarded as fringe during their time. I mean, most people have never heard of the geniuses of our age -- Eric Whitacre, David Holsinger... I also consider John Williams to be included among the greats as well. But he's certainly not mainstream. I blame Schoenberg for this. Even if it's not his fault, he's not as gifted at dodecaphonic music as he's given credit. Anyway, is the lack of appreciation for musical genius the result of popular media and a recent development? Or has this always been the case, even before radio?

I also blame Elvis Presley for bringing sex into popular music, and Michael Jackson for ensuring that the songs that get played on the radio are selected primarily based on the artist's ability to dance.

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Definitely. To this day, our taste (Western music) dates directly back. What pleases us, what we dance to, our concept of harmony and melody is that history. For example once upon a time it was a *sin* to compose music in a minor key. Some guy in a pointy hat modified that along the way and decided it was okay as long as you ended it with a major chord. Bach dug that. Plagel cadence.
Western music history was one of my main gigs in my seven year degree-less college career. ;)

It's a Picardy Third actually, but I get your point. Generally speaking, I think music is roughly analogous to language. It differs by locality, region and nationality. It's difficult, if not impossible, to communicate in more than one language at a time. It's often said that music is the universal language, but I just don't think that is true. You seem to be suggesting that the great musical geniuses could have done something even greater if not constrained by the conveniences of the particular language or dialect they learned from birth. That seems to be like asking what great book Dickens might have written had he been Chinese rather than English, or had he been able to incorporate all languages simultaneously. I'm just not sure it works that way, for either language or music.

As a side note, I truly believe this topic is the type from which a doctorate level thesis could be born.
 

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Yeah, there you go! Picardy. I told someone I had forgotten more than I learned... :)
The differences in musical language around the world are astounding. It's so presumptuous to define it a certain way, "our" way. I saw my son invent a language of his own, free of an imposed expectation. He had no ability to meet that expectation but it made no difference to him, he did something beautiful and different. Foreign to strangers, beloved by those who understood it; it wasn't difficult at all. Why on earth would we want our little girl prodigy to amaze us with her ability to rehash the same ol' same ol'?
 

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I bet you didn't expect those songs from me. :)
Knowing you have good taste...I sure did...
Say hey good looking, what you got cookin? How about cookin something up with me.......... I came in late last night at half past ten, that baby of mine wouldn't let me in, so move it on over....now I'm moaning, moooanin the blues;)
Hawk Williams.........timeless:2cool:
 
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That's the trouble with you "kids" today... "Back in the day" when YOUR parents listened to "their music".... it was more than likely "country"
'cause "Rock and Roll" (think about how silly that sounds today) was the "Devil's music"... You changed the radio station at your own risk.... There were two kinds of music... Country and Western.... It wasn't all that bad... The artists who performed it, are American icons to many people...
It's interesting to see how some people (Cucco) find it comforting.. Many of us do....
 

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Best best line from one of the great movies.

Daniel: Sammy. Fantastic show. Classic drumming, son.
Sam: Thanks. Plan didn't work, though.
Daniel:Tell her, then.
Sam: Tell her what?
Daniel:That you love her.
No way. Anyway, they fly tonight.
Daniel: Even better. Sam, you've got nothing to lose...and you'll always regret it if you don't.
I never told your mum enough. I should have told her every day...because she was perfect every day.
You've seen the films, kiddo. It ain't over till it's over.
Sam: OK, Dad. Let's do it. Let's go get the .... kicked out of us by love.

 

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The stack is growing................. :facepalm:

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