Genesis-Style..?

[ConradM]

You lack skills in the art of SS mesh wicks, but your attempts to continue on are honourable .
No hating, just having some fun here.

Oh, I get it... you think using mesh involves skill which would imply it's something you think you've mastered. Which is also why you turn your nose up at other means of wicking. Make sense.

 

[VaPreis]

I understand perfectly what he was saying. But again, to use the analogy of a truck.... A truck was designed to haul. If someone buys a truck and never uses it in such a manner is it still a truck?



Mind you, I'm not offended, I'm actually using mesh today and enjoying it. I just think the idea that an atomizer is defined only by it's wicking is kind of silly.



Humor me, if a person uses cotton in their "genesis" atomizer what should they call it?

"Failed attempt at mesh"









Sent from my recliner with a spatula

 

[Glenn_K]

I only know about Vivi Novas in terms of clearomizers -- some clever person may have learned how to rebuild the coils, just like with Pro tanks, but VNs are not RBAs as i understand the term.

What's confusing is that there are now so many VN models out there; there's the Vision VN (top coil clearo), and more recently the Vapeonly Aspire Vivi Nova (BDCC), as well as any number of VN knock-offs (I've got one that's a top coil model, no idea who it's made by or where to get replacement heads. I bought it right after i started vaping under the impression that it was a real VN).

- Glenn

I've always thought of a VIVI-type as a device with a rebuildable/replaceable 'head' and without a deck (full diameter plate above the juice chamber). Can you point to some referred to as VIVI by the producer that don't have heads for the wick/coil assembly and perhaps have a deck?

EDIT: Yes, the coils (or 'heads') are replaceable, at least for all the models i'm aware of.

 

[Rule62]

Oh, I get it... you think using mesh involves skill which would imply it's something you think you've mastered. Which is also why you turn your nose up at other means of wicking. Make sense.

I can't speak for Buzz, but my original comment that it's not a genisis unless unless it involves a ss wick is by no means intended to bash other means of wicking. I think soft wick devices are great; drippers, Kayfuns, Squapes, Taifuns, etc. I have several of those type devices. They're great.

 

[TrentTC]

Raidy invented the Genesis atomizer and when he invented it is was meant as a fiberless atomizer, meaning it didn't use silica, cotton, or any other fiber wick. It used ss mesh. Look up the All My Mods part 1 thread here on ECF. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modding-forum/132663-all-my-mods-part1.html

 

[williebb123]

If I use mesh in a dripper, is that dripper now a genesis? MIND BLOWN.

if you were around when vaping started then you would know the difference , we only had 510 ,801 ,901 and carto tanks had just came out when i first saw zen and a genisis and from the very start it was a ss mesh wick , there was no silica no cotton it was like henry ford first of its kind so yeah the people that were vaping then tend to agree it aint a genisis unless its a mesh wick

 

[ConradM]

You guys can really stop repeating yourselves. I understand that gennys were designed with a specific setup in mind. But I think some of you are also missing the point that things naturally evolve over time. Just like the video game console or the smart phone.

IMO that's the beauty of it... You don't have to stick to what's "intended". You can be creative and explorative with any RBA or RDA. That's like 77% of the fun in itself.

 

[ConradM]

if you were around when vaping started then you would know the difference , we only had 510 ,801 ,901 and carto tanks had just came out when i first saw zen and a genisis and from the very start it was a ss mesh wick , there was no silica no cotton it was like henry ford first of its kind so yeah the people that were vaping then tend to agree it aint a genisis unless its a mesh wick

Saying something isn't something almost implies belittling. Does that mean you all look down on "alternative wicking" in Genesis style attys?

Man I tell ya, this is the most interesting discussion I've been involved in today hands down. lol..

 

[ConradM]

I also find it greatly amusing that the "style" of my atty can change from day to day based on the wick. Even though the atty itself hasn't changed... like at all.

 

[williebb123]

no i just get tired when some one like you come on here with no respect because you cant build a mesh wick without it tasting bad and so that makes all genisis style atties bound for the trash heap you sound like a spoiled brat that sits around playing his xbox all day and gets mad when he has to clean his room because he dont know how

 

[BuzzKilla]

Oh, I get it... you think using mesh involves skill which would imply it's something you think you've mastered. Which is also why you turn your nose up at other means of wicking. Make sense.

Not at all lol

I'm no "master", i've just been at it longer.
I've built it all; SSmesh, SS cables, Silica, Cotton, Ceramic stone, ceramic rope, as well as hybrids of these combinations.
and in a genisis, SS mesh works best.
I find the rest un-necessary, and really just a compromise to the inability of make a good SS mesh wick.
whether it be to wicking flooding or shorting.

I've just been there already, and preach.
I'f you build a good SS wick, you will have ZERO issues. You just have to keep at it.

 

[TrentTC]

With a fiber wick it is still a genesis style atomizer. Without a ss mesh wick though it is not a "genisis" atomizer. Genisis was a code name used to encompass the whole thing, including the build which was with mesh.

 

[ConradM]

no i just get tired when some one like you come on here with no respect because you cant build a mesh wick without it tasting bad and so that makes all genisis style atties bound for the trash heap you sound like a spoiled brat that sits around playing his xbox all day and gets mad when he has to clean his room because he dont know how

My mesh wicks work great. I've been vaping one all day. But you're right, I don't clean my room, my wife does. Oh and my 3 kids clean up after themselves. Nice try though.

 

[edyle]

Saying something isn't something almost implies belittling. Does that mean you all look down on "alternative wicking" in Genesis style attys?

Man I tell ya, this is the most interesting discussion I've been involved in today hands down. lol..

I think that's what they really mean; it is probably meant in a belittleing sense than in a literal sense; after all, it can't be a literal meaning that a genisis is not a genisis if you don't put a steel mesh wick in it.

 

[BuzzKilla]

raidy invented the genesis atomizer and when he invented it is was meant as a fiberless atomizer, meaning it didn't use silica, cotton, or any other fiber wick. It used ss mesh. Look up the all my mods part 1 thread here on ecf. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modding-forum/132663-all-my-mods-part1.html

man that thread takes me back!

 

[ConradM]

Not at all lol

I'm no "master", i've just been at it longer.
I've built it all; SSmesh, SS cables, Silica, Cotton, Ceramic stone, ceramic rope, as well as hybrids of these combinations.
and in a genisis, SS mesh works best.
I find the rest un-necessary, and really just a compromise to the inability of make a good SS mesh wick.
whether it be to wicking flooding or shorting.

I've just been there already, and preach.
I'f you build a good SS wick, you will have ZERO issues. You just have to keep at it.

I can appreciate your experience and admit that I lack it. But as I've said, I have no problems building a mesh wick and find it to be the easier wick type to work with -



Whipped it up last night in a few minutes and I've been vaping it all day. Wicks great, tastes great, plenty of flavor and vapor ect. I never once said that I prefer one wick type over another.

 

[Rule62]

I can appreciate your experience and admit that I lack it. But as I've said, I have no problems building a mesh wick and find it to be the easier wick type to work with -





Whipped it up last night in a few minutes and I've been vaping it all day. Wicks great, tastes great, plenty of flavor and vapor ect. I never once said that I prefer one wick type over another.

Very nice looking job. Now that's a genisis set up!

 

[WattWick]

Oh, I get it... you think using mesh involves skill which would imply it's something you think you've mastered. Which is also why you turn your nose up at other means of wicking. Make sense.

Indeed! You have unraveled one of the secrets of The Masters of Mesh. Wicks made of plants or sand or other inferior materials are frowned upon. Only the worthiest materials shall be wrested from the bowels of the earth. Forged in fire. Beaten by heavy machinery. Braided into the finest sheets. Rolled by loving fingers. Pulsed to life.

Wrapping your Mesh in inferior materials is blasphemy! The mesh wick is eternal, and shall not have its maintenance or purity affected by materials cultivated on the soil or dug from the beaches. The mesh is born naked, and naked it shall remain.

Oh, and what you should ask for when shopping for your next gennie? That's an easy one. You shall ask for the one dragged from the depths of the ocean. The tentacled one. Its name is Kraken.

 

[ConradM]

Ha! fillercharacters

 

[Glenn_K]

I wondered how a mesh wick was suppose to draw e-liquid up to the coil, and then I saw the following vid (from the Siam Cobra group-buy thread many months ago). If you watch closely, after the video guy drops a rolled up mesh wick into the glass, you can see the e-liquid working it's way up the wick (by about 33 seconds it's pretty clear), and make a dent in the liquid level in the glass.

According to the thread, the mesh wick was just dropped into the glass, i.e. there's no airflow or suction or anything like that helping the e-liquid along:

-- Glenn