Clone, I can't afford expensive ones.
I'm sure it's whatever gives people AGA problems but not me but in reverse. One day it will probably click like it did with my AGA's.
No Love For Genesis Tanks Now That KFLs Are So Popular?
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Clone, I can't afford expensive ones.
I'm sure it's whatever gives people AGA problems but not me but in reverse. One day it will probably click like it did with my AGA's.
I always wanted to give it a go with a Genesis Atomizer but always blew it off for new RDAs to try instead. Well, I recently got a Ch-raken by hcigar from a trade and did a very simple 1/16 single coil, dual cotton wick with a resistance of 1.1 ohms.
The result; absolutely phenomenal. Vapor production is a very dense, creamy vapor that pulls with little to no effort. I personally prefer the Kraken over a Kayfun now; to get the same vapor production, I would have to drop the resistance on the KF well below 1ohm, but the throat hit isn't pleasurable for me below .8 ohms.
Flavor wise, its very different; I guess I would describe it to be a softer flavor, but also much sweeter too. Finding it interesting trying out the juices I am currently accustomed to, they all taste different now, but all in a very good way.
I just pulled a single strand of loose cotton into 2 channels from one coil, and notice that I dont need to do anything extra such as tipping or pulling cold draws. I just pick up the device and vape, and find this to be a very consistent tank. Unfortunately, the juice consumption is much faster than I would like, but given the increase in vapor and flavor production, not a big deal.
The verdict for me, Kayfun love is gone now that I tried a Genesis
The result; absolutely phenomenal. Vapor production is a very dense, creamy vapor that pulls with little to no effort. I personally prefer the Kraken over a Kayfun now; to get the same vapor production, I would have to drop the resistance on the KF well below 1ohm, but the throat hit isn't pleasurable for me below .8 ohms.
Flavor wise, its very different; I guess I would describe it to be a softer flavor, but also much sweeter too. Finding it interesting trying out the juices I am currently accustomed to, they all taste different now, but all in a very good way.
I just pulled a single strand of loose cotton into 2 channels from one coil, and notice that I dont need to do anything extra such as tipping or pulling cold draws. I just pick up the device and vape, and find this to be a very consistent tank. Unfortunately, the juice consumption is much faster than I would like, but given the increase in vapor and flavor production, not a big deal.
The verdict for me, Kayfun love is gone now that I tried a Genesis
Well I decided mesh was junk long ago and have never had trouble running the pulse with cotton or yarn. Sounds like those sorts are a wick problem not an atty problem, just did get a pulse Clone from FT that had the center tube drilled crooked and was causing a dead short, I had to put it on a press and machine it out but it works fine now.
@ Ford racing, that sounds like a wicking problem, if you go with a higher /bigger cap your going to lose flavor and is probably not going to solve your problem anyway. Typically Ford guy... JK.
@hawaii welcome to the club, the kraken has a small chamber that's one of the main reason for the great flavor, it's one of the gennys I like besides the pulse, get a pulse and you'll see the difference, glad your liking the gennys!
Anyone needs a hand feel free to Pm me, I got genny whipped, but I don't really waste to much time with mesh.
@ Ford racing, that sounds like a wicking problem, if you go with a higher /bigger cap your going to lose flavor and is probably not going to solve your problem anyway. Typically Ford guy... JK.
@hawaii welcome to the club, the kraken has a small chamber that's one of the main reason for the great flavor, it's one of the gennys I like besides the pulse, get a pulse and you'll see the difference, glad your liking the gennys!
Anyone needs a hand feel free to Pm me, I got genny whipped, but I don't really waste to much time with mesh.
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@Tbev. Yeah, big fan of the small chamber rebuildables. That pulse w/ reducer looks like it kicks in the flavor dept, appears to share the same design as the Kraken, minus the reducer of course. Yeah, definitely enjoying the genesis club, tried an aga-t a little while back, but hated the airflow setup and didn't like the vape quality at all, probably why I procrastinated on this for awhile. Anyway, glad I gave it another shot, thoroughly enjoying this as my primary setup, will have to try source the original now that I know how these vape.
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Glad to hear it! I never really liked any of the AGA'S BC they have huge caps and this crap flavor. I've been the biggest pulse cheerleader for ever!
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It's probablly the fact the clone is a piece of crap, and that's why it's shorting out...if you can build a wick and coil on a aga you can build a set up on near any genny...The only wierd thing about the Pulse g , and I can't say if it's the same for the clone, because i've never seen one...is that the center post screws into the deck.....as you tighten down the positive screw it will pull the wick over toward it.In the case of ceramic wicks if you have a snug fit,it will snap the wick if you're not real , real, careful.
Now, the next step is throw out that pillow you have stuffed in there, and find a proper wick...ss mesh, or cable,or ceramic.It's a genny not a self feeding dripper.
I always wanted to give it a go with a Genesis Atomizer but always blew it off for new RDA’s to try instead. Well, I recently got a Ch-raken by Hcigar from a trade and did a very simple 1/16 single coil, dual cotton wick with a resistance of 1.1 ohms.
The result; absolutely phenomenal. Vapor production is a very dense, creamy vapor that pulls with little to no effort. I personally prefer the Kraken over a Kayfun now; to get the same vapor production, I would have to drop the resistance on the KF well below 1ohm, but the throat hit isn't pleasurable for me below .8 ohms.
Flavor wise, it’s very different; I guess I would describe it to be a “softer” flavor, but also much sweeter too. Finding it interesting trying out the juices I am currently accustomed to, they all taste different now, but all in a very good way.
I just pulled a single strand of loose cotton into 2 channels from one coil, and notice that I don’t need to do anything extra such as tipping or pulling cold draws. I just pick up the device and vape, and find this to be a very consistent tank. Unfortunately, the juice consumption is much faster than I would like, but given the increase in vapor and flavor production, not a big deal.
The verdict for me, Kayfun love is gone now that I tried a Genesis
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The clone had some issues (holes drilled before the spool was lathed causing a lip in the holes) but I cleaned those up.
I think the floppy center pulling too far is the issue. With the AGA's I can grab the lower nut and tighten the top without much pull over.
I will say the Pulse has great flavor and the Kraken is a cloud producer (even at 2Ω). As soon as I get more coffee and take my pills I'm going to go rework some of the Kraken, remove the threading in the wick hole and open the fill hole for a RSST plug to get a tighter fit.
They both vape fine, it's just when trying to pulse out a wick or dry burn they tend to short up high where it fries the wick and wire.
Mesh and cable is what I'll likely try next, although right now, as a self feeding dripper, its doing remarkably well.
Drilled out the Kraken wick hole to take out the threads. Opened the fill hole to take a tight fit with a RSST plug. Turned the washers down a bit.
Much easier to build. Still shorting but I really did nothing with this wick to help, not shorting as bad though, I think it's the long leg of the AGA allows me to get a good twist in the ribbon before it starts wrapping.
No more leaking that I can see so far and the bigger straw tube is feeding great.
And this would be why I see no need to spend hundreds on a genuine product when I can modify to suit what I want. Odds are I'd want to modify an expensive one to suit my wishes too.
Much easier to build. Still shorting but I really did nothing with this wick to help, not shorting as bad though, I think it's the long leg of the AGA allows me to get a good twist in the ribbon before it starts wrapping.
No more leaking that I can see so far and the bigger straw tube is feeding great.
And this would be why I see no need to spend hundreds on a genuine product when I can modify to suit what I want. Odds are I'd want to modify an expensive one to suit my wishes too.
F that my gennys all run cotton and they all kick a... Some people are stuck on mesh, go ahead, spend all your time fiddle fuking around with sorts n hot spots, I'll take cotton every time.
I bet I spend less time messing with mesh once every month or two than you do with cotton every week or so.
I tried cotton on my immortalizer for a split second, I didn't like the taste. It didn't even stay on long enough to see how much I hated not being able to dry burn.
However I would like to figure out an ekowool size for a gennie. When I was messing with that it was great taste and vapor until it choked off or flooded.
I must be doing something wrong. I don't spend any time fiddling with shorts or hotspots. Even my drippers are set up with mesh
I must be doing something wrong. I don't spend any time fiddling with shorts or hotspots. Even my drippers are set up with mesh
Me three.
Once it's set up, it's good for weeks hassle-free.
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I love my kraken ss mesh numbed with a little bit of cotton .37 ohm 325# mess on a kraken clone. No dry hits and little to no genny tilting
High end gennys are worth the money the ask for....period,they give an incredible vape and they are dependable.....i could care less about devices..i spend my money on attys. I have modded a few high end attys, because I use ceramic wicks, but I'm not a collector or trader.....I consider long and hard on an atty before I buy it..it's not just something to be traded later on...lately I look more to attys that suit my requirements rather than mod stuff....one of the reasons I haven't bought a hellfire.
It's just a matter of practice. once you get it down you wrap the coil right ...the first time. but some people don't have the patience or dexterity.
What do you think about trying ss cable with ekowool top sock...I've tried those builds and i was quite surprised with how good they were.
Out of curiosity, and laziness on my part to go look for the information, how are shorts caused on a Genny? Is it due to the cable/mesh touching the base, not oxidizing, or grounding out against something?
Also, by using mesh/cable, does that mean the genny will have to be periodically leveled @ around 90 degrees? With the cotton setup, the most tilting I will ever do is about 45 degrees from standing position, which is basically the position I vape on anyway, and haven't had a dry hit yet. I'm on my 5th tank cycle now, going through different flavors like its the first time again lol
I guess this is similar to the joy squonkers get with their REO's, drip quality vape without having to drip.
Also, by using mesh/cable, does that mean the genny will have to be periodically leveled @ around 90 degrees? With the cotton setup, the most tilting I will ever do is about 45 degrees from standing position, which is basically the position I vape on anyway, and haven't had a dry hit yet. I'm on my 5th tank cycle now, going through different flavors like its the first time again lol
I guess this is similar to the joy squonkers get with their REO's, drip quality vape without having to drip.
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