Getting Harassed for Vaping...

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AndriaD

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Mine gave me grief about it for the first time today as we were going someplace in her car.
The butter pecan juice I was vaping tickled her throat and made her cough.
I gently reminded her it was she who bought me my first kit and told her to hold her breath until we got home... ;-)

...Take my wife, please.

ROFL... my husband has a few times made a rather angry inquiry "what the heck you got in there?" (he didn't say heck of course ;)) I just look him dead in the eye and say "well, it's NOT tobacco." He backs down right away and says something like "well maybe your coil or something is going bad, it smells burnt or something." And he's often right, not the coil, but the wick is gunked. Actually I'm impressed; apparently the lack of 2nd hand smoke has improved his sense of smell as the lack of 1st hand has improved mine. :D

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Cause he just heard it on the radio and believes it's some last minute breakthrough discovery and people need to be warned about it?

If anything is despicable here, it's the guys running the propaganda, not the victims.

OK.. I can agree about propaganda.. but that still does not address the point of my post. The man who approached the poster in the above story was not a victim. The poster was not a victim.
 

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So, we have two kinds of minorities, with one being "more equal" than the other? Thank you for clarifying that the constitution was replaced with Orwell's book.

Caramel, I just noted you're in Canada. Last time I checked Canada is a British commonwealth or something as such, God Bless the Queen and all that.
Are you an American living in Canada (lots of those) or does Canada have a similar constitution to ours which is also being torn to shreds?
 

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Yes, but freedom to practice one's religion is a Constitutional right; it's kind of one of the reasons America was founded. Vaping isn't...

I beg to differ. America was colonized so the London Company could make money.
America was founded so the King of England wouldn't tax heck out of the colonists.
Remember, "Taxation without representation"
All that puritan pilgrims nonsense is just that.

Moreover, our (US) founding fathers were all masons and not exactly the "religious" type.
Cosmic scientists maybe. Religious, no.
 

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I beg to differ. America was colonized so the London Company could make money.
America was founded so the King of England wouldn't tax heck out of the colonists.
Remember, "Taxation without representation"
All that puritan pilgrims nonsense is just that.

Moreover, our (US) founding fathers were all masons and not exactly the "religious" type.
Cosmic scientists maybe. Religious, no.

All that is true, but they also all agreed that gov't has no business in the religion business; they are two entirely distinct spheres, and should always remain so.

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I guess one could lobby Congress for an amendment to the Constitution to include vaping, but I don't see that going anywhere...

Again I beg to differ. If the gub'min starts messing with the constitution and the respective amendments
they'll trash it like they trash everything they get involved in.

Besides, lobbying for freedom of anything is, in my opinion, a waste of time unless what you're lobbying for involves lot's of money
for kickbacks and bribes.
Please pardon my cynicism but if I've learned anything in my years it's that the only thing that bears any pressure on
gub'min is whether the bureaucrats can make a buck.
 

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I beg to differ. America was colonized so the London Company could make money.
America was founded so the King of England wouldn't tax heck out of the colonists.
Remember, "Taxation without representation"
All that puritan pilgrims nonsense is just that.

Moreover, our (US) founding fathers were all masons and not exactly the "religious" type.
Cosmic scientists maybe. Religious, no.

Oh, ok.....
 

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Coming back to the drive throughs - which "rights" of the worker would be infringed by strawberry flavoured PG but not by exhaust gases?

Allegedly one of the reasons they got rid of toll booth workers here is because the workers were exposed to too many exhaust fumes.
Of course, I don't believe that story..
The real reason is the same reasons so many stores have self check-out. So they don't have to pay as many employees.

There is a Cuban furniture store down here with the slogan
"Lo que cuenta es el cash" The only thing that matters is cash. How true.
 

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...which are unconstitutional. Shall I remind you about the "right to bear arms" as the most famous example?

Would you please elaborate on that statement. I think I just heard you say state laws are unconstitutional.
I think I even heard you say that the right to bear arms is unconstitutional but I can't believe my ears unless you're being sarcastic.
Please, expound. I'm all ears.
 

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I was thinking the same thing before you posted that.

Funny how some didnt care about smokers but now that vaping is seen as smoking by the public some vapors want to be a protected class.

I've cared about both smokers and non smoker's rights and the same goes for vapers and non vapers.
Whether I smoke or not and even though smoker's smoke bothers me now-a-days,
I don't condone or understand why smokers should have to pay 6 or 7 bucks for a pack of smokes that would if not for taxes cost a buck or two.

That, is what they're trying to do to vapers and it looks to me like taxation w/o representation all over again.
b4 I quit smoking ciggies I was loking into buying unprocessed tobacco in blocks and ripping it, processing it and rolling my own in order to avoid taxes.
Now that I vape I'm into DIY for taste but also because I can see for miles...

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I get the impression many feel they are better than smokers and feel the need to show off that they are not smoking...

Yes, there are snobs everywhere. It seems everybody is singing "My dog's better than your dog"...
I still have my old pipes and a couple of pounds of tobacco I've not and will never throw away.
I prefer to vape and don't like it when I have to put up with second hand smoke when I go shopping
or any public enclosed area. For that reason alone I don't make others put up with my vape
unless I'm in my home or vehicle.
But it isn't because I think I'm better than somebuddy puffing on ciggies.
As far as I'm concerned "We're all bozos on this bus"
and that's precisely why I can't condone anybody passing judgement on anybody else.

Who am I to judge? The only thing I can ethically judge are my own actions and words.
"'An it harm none, do what ye will'"

Unfortunately, and it's not just now-a-days, people could care less if by doing their will they hurt the other guy.
That's life in big silly.
 

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The only real issue is that those governments aren't getting a slice of the pie.
They want a BIG slice too.

i.e. the same cut they get from regular smokers. Can you imagine the prices of mods, batteries, juice if they end up taxing vaping like they tax tobacco? Ouch. Fortunately, I think there's some time before that happens.

But I have little doubt it will happen.
 

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Perhaps they have I have no idea but I will accept your believing so. I would also expect them to have a much deeper pocket then is demonstrated.

I like your cynical but fair and considerate attitude, Sir or Madam.
I also have a hard time believing anything but am willing to give anything a fair hearing
and the benefit of the doubt.

Surely there are people who act only out of love, but for the most part
people act out of love for money.
 

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Would you please elaborate on that statement. I think I just heard you say state laws are unconstitutional.
I think I even heard you say that the right to bear arms is unconstitutional but I can't believe my ears unless you're being sarcastic.
Please, expound. I'm all ears.

That's a reference to some states trying to remove your right to bear arms. I'm not currently up to date on the debate, but I remember the Illinois Governor trying to ban guns by wording an ammendment such that it made all guns assault weapons some time ago. I'm not from the US but I agree: there's is so much fearmongering going on up north that your basic rights are being take from you so someone in a position of power can make a buck.
 
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