Getting Harassed for Vaping...
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being second hand vapor is harmless it does not violate anyone's inalienable rights.
you do not have a right not to be annoyed.
the smoking bands although they were considered in the public good turned into
creating a minority to be legally kicked around and treated like scum by the majority.
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mike
suggest to your wife that perhaps she should find a different doctor.
a doctor that does not understand the health risks associated
with nicotine at such low levels shouldn't be in a position to make
health related decisions for anyone.
i bet you a dime to a donut the doctor and hospital and or clinic
has an expensive NRT program to offer.
regards
mike
Secondhand vapor doesn't harm the majority of people, but it can hurt someone with allergies and/or sensitivities to the vaporized ingredients; it's rare, but it does occur. I know because my roomie's throat closes if I vape in the house.
Roomie harasses me for vaping even when I take it outside, but I doubt it's solely because of allergies. He smokes and might be jealous because I can vape and he can't, and he comes across as having the attitude of "If I can't vape, I'll see to it that you won't, either."
A small, clean pen knife and a Bic pen will fix that. Tough to make breathing a problem after a home brew tracheotomy. Especially while you're more worried about the bleeding.
Might want to mention that the next time your roommate throws a fit outside.
Inside... fair game, I agree.
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Yep, you can probably find a few people who are allergic to just about anything. Should we ban peanuts from all "public places" (the majority of which aren't actually public) because someone, somewhere might be allergic?
Yes, ,and I agree with that position. I just wanted to make sure it was understood that nobody founded America
because of religious freedom. Religious freedom was an adjunct for to the prevention of tyranny by a church state.
I've heard entirely too much nonsense about the pilgrims and the Mayflower and Thanksgiving.
Btw, though you surely know this others might not.
The first colony founded by the London Company starved because they weren't cut out for the rough life.
The colony was saved when they brought some Poles over to build/hunt and keep the Brits alive.
Indians had little to do with any of this...and I don't like turkey either.
Hazy
while there is no doubt that some of our history may
be a little embellished it can not be denied that freedom
of religion and freedom from religion played a very important
part as a motivational factor in the settlement of your so called
company towns. our founding fathers considered freedom to
practice religion as one wished and separation of church and
state one of corner stones of our republic. our Constitution and
Bill of Rights are founded on Judeo Christian tenets.
(notice i said tenets not religious dogma or doctrine.)
it is also undisputable that the Native Americans and the early settlers
for the most part were on good terms and co-operated with each
other on many things
our government is based on what the settlers observed on how
the Indians tribal councils operated.
regards
mike
And an even better example is coconut oil, because they put that crap in EVERYTHING, it seems like -- but my son REALLY DOES become anaphylactic from even the slightest exposure to coconut-anything. Does that mean that every place on the planet suddenly must ban all coconut-anything from every product? Clearly it doesn't.
And this roomie who supposedly has "throat closure" from vapor: I'd suggest buying him an epi-pen, and see if he actually uses it. If he doesn't -- or, if he never actually goes to the emergency room with this "throat closure" -- then he's a hysterical hypochondriac malingerer who's just trying to make life more difficult for you.
Andria
Who eats peanuts in public places. I vote to ban them in all private establishments.
Unless there's a 2000% tax paid on every peanut sold for... umm... medical expenses. Yeah that's it.
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Unless there's a 2000% tax paid on every peanut sold for... umm... medical expenses. Yeah that's it.
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I wouldn't really call that harassment, but either way, it shouldn't bother you in the least. I don't always feel obligated to explain myself to people, especially when I don't think they'll listen. If you absolutely can't ignore them I find it best to give short, witty remarks
it's a lifestyle choice really. I don't feel the need to justify any of the other life style choices I've made. I don't feel the need to justify this one as well
it's a lifestyle choice really. I don't feel the need to justify any of the other life style choices I've made. I don't feel the need to justify this one as well
then it doesn't meet the threshold to be considered harmful.
there are to many things any one particular person can be
allergic to. peanuts and glutin to mention two. they haven't restricted
nut goodies and bread(yet).
regards
mike
In my experience at least where I live the police are pretty quick to respond in such situations.
Could you explain why you feel that both parties are victims and what they are victims of? Thanks!
OOoooh oooooh ooooooh..... I think I got this!!!
The person complaining is the victim because he is subjected to the vapor
Steve is the victim because he was .... accosted? Too strong a word but in a general sense it works..... for doing something that is not illegal.
OMG.... It sounds like stuff that is happening right here in the good old U S of A!
i see it all the time had a friend get fired for vaping outside the store he worked at but it was ok for all the others to go outside and smoke
Thanks Robino! I also wanted to comment about the link about NOLA's Ban.. Did I read correctly that it included condo's?
If I own a condo no one is going to tell me that I cannot vape in it.
If I remember the involved parties correctly.... Both guys are a victim of Antz propaganda. The first guy for hearing and believing that rubbish, and the vaper for having to hear the first guy regurgitate that garbage
I can usually tell right away if someone is really interested in having a conversation, or just wants to project. I've even had a pulmonologist, although it was 2 years ago, try to make the claim that "it's more harmful than smoking"
I've never tried to convince anyone that it's "harmless" - it seems like that is the standard that is being applied if the government rule makers are to "allow" us to vape. Nothing is harmless. But it's a lot less harmful than smoking.
But yeah that whole more harmful than smoking thing is actually starting to gain traction, rather than losing steam. Pun intended.
I've never tried to convince anyone that it's "harmless" - it seems like that is the standard that is being applied if the government rule makers are to "allow" us to vape. Nothing is harmless. But it's a lot less harmful than smoking.
But yeah that whole more harmful than smoking thing is actually starting to gain traction, rather than losing steam. Pun intended.
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