Definitely feel things shifting & changing not feeling proud of myself for vaoing anymore
I understand what your saying and why. But remember when you conduct yourself responsibly when you vape or smoke your not seen as the problem.
Definitely feel things shifting & changing not feeling proud of myself for vaoing anymore
I understand what your saying and why. But remember when you conduct yourself responsibly when you vape or smoke your not seen as the problem.
More than likely they were like me and bought into the lies that were spewed about smoking, or more specifically, second hand smoke.
I see them using the same tactics against vaping. It may have taken me a while to wake up but I have and I am fighting back now.
But a great number of the protester vapors want to be disassociated from smokers and don't care about them. Many only care about their vaping and now being disassociated they have become even a smaller voice. I see it all the time here.
But a great number of the protester vapors want to be disassociated from smokers and don't care about them. Many only care about their vaping and now being disassociated they have become even a smaller voice. I see it all the time here.
um sure. This all started long before vaping was mainstream. Most of those that are pushing the laws through have no clue about e-cigarettes. Most have never even seen a person that vapes.
Adding: Those that are wanting vaping to go away are only in it for the money. Read the link to the post that I posted earlier.
Some have a lot of issues to take up with their goverment and a need to compare everything to vaping.
Some governments have issues with vaping and need to compare it to smoking.
I get the impression many feel they are better than smokers and feel the need to show off that they are not smoking...
Lol, the e cig companies did that to themselves.
All the groups involved are in it for profit, no doubt. Tobacco, e CIG manufactures, e liquid manufactures, distributors, wholesalers, everyone.
Look, a lot of us would prefer to smoke and vape everywhere we go, some of us remember when we could smoke almost anywhere, but the fact is that's not the society most of us live in now.
I believe its fairly simple. Smoke and vape where its permitted. If its not permitted don't do it there. I don't find that logic to be overly harsh on anyone.
I don't remember them positioning e-cigs as a "tobacco product".
CASAA isn't and they are fighting for vapers.
No.
Not all.
I'm not.
Maybe you over looked the new way to smoke adds, or the new cigarette, or the very name e cigarette. They completely cuddled up to the tobacco users.
Don't want to debate you but there's not many not for profits where someone isn't profiting. Which is the same reason many of these groups refuse to open their books even to their own members.
Maybe you over looked the new way to smoke adds, or the new cigarette, or the very name e cigarette. They completely cuddled up to the tobacco users.
CASAA has.
...as an alternative to tobbaco not a variety of.
It was the government who "deemed" it to be a tobacco product.
As a Brit I get confused about the US anytime we see your politicians on TV they are always talking about freedom either protecting it or working to introduce it all over the place and over the last couple of years I've got the impression many ordinary Americans seem to have a lot of stuff limited or restricted. Now in the UK we hold most politicians in total contempt as self serving trough feeders who wouldn't know honesty if it punched them in the face but on vaping for once they are being intelligent it's very disconcerting. They are waiting on studies and consulting the medical profession as well as listening to vaping advocacy before coming to a conclusion although as things stand a minimum age, quality standards for liquids and a possible standard for hardware are likely as well as a level of taxation. If you'd have asked me which country would be harder on vaping without seeing forums I'd have said the US would be the better place to be a vaper but seems it's the opposite.