Go-Go Specific: Thread for All things Go Go

[Major]

Your right. The filler will stay dry in the center on a fresh carto and the rebuild ones, too. It has to do with how the filler is packed at manufacture and how it is installed during rebuild. There was just a thread in the e-cig general session where a poster named Niclic took a picture of a dual coil clear cartomizer probably on page 2or 3 by now). It took the recommended mls (3 I think) and then started to drip out the bottom but he could see that the middle was still dry(there is a picture he took showing this). 1 hr later, still dry. 3 hrs later, still dry, 5 hrs later, still dry but just barely. So it takes time for the carto filler to absorb the juice evenly throughout the carto and for some reason it's always the middle that ends up dry. When I use one of my rebuilds or a brand new one, I always fill it last thing at night and let it sit on end overnight now. I was filling the carto up and not getting a good hit out of it. I left it and went to bed and the next morning tried it again and it hit perfect. I have a theory that the filler is compressed when dry and when filled with juice it expands and returns to it's natural density and wicks properly over time. Once it's thouroughly wet it's a snap to top off and keep it wicked but the initial fill takes a whole lot longer to wick than thought. I've been doing some experiments of filling the cartos with 3 ml and then pulling the filler immediately to see whats going on in there. I want to get some clear stiff plastic and pull a gocart filler and insert it in the clear plastic or glass of the same size and fill it with juice and see what it does. As soon as I have some difinitive conclusions, I'll post them here.

Another GO-GO user TexasTumbleWeed (Not TxTumbleWeed) had mentioned a week or so back that thier use of blanks versus pre-filled showed the prefilled seem to hold refills better and so on. I couldn't resist so I pulled the filler on a brand new prefilled and the juice was pretty evenly distributed. On a new blank I had filled and left sitting for almost 2 hours was also pulled and the center was dry.

I am not into physics but it would seem to me based on what I just decribed as well as using both blanks I filled and pre-fills I refilled that the pre-fill seems to perform better and retain a better vape. That said, I have zero idea whether it is because the pre-fills are filled at the factory, vacuum sealed and have a long time to soak the juice into all the filler before they wind up on a users battery or not.

I am purely guessing here but it seems that unless the factory is loading these with some diferent juice (unlikely I think) that the wild card is the length of time it takes for the filler to get wet througout it's entirety. Obviously I have nothing to base that on but observation but if it turns out to be slow absorption rates for blanks, it will be interesting to see Mohawkz clear tube test.

I don't mind filling the blanks I have and let them soak for a few days before use but for the price differential, I think I'll stick with the prefills with a weak flavor that my juice can over ride until we can form some good idea on how long it takes to get the filler wet throughout.

 

[Cigarman]

Has anyone tried the taryn spin on these? I would think the centrifugal force would cause the juice to be distributed thoroughly. I have a Gogo on order, I'll try this soon.

 

[mohawkx]

Has anyone tried the taryn spin on these? I would think the centrifugal force would cause the juice to be distributed thoroughly. I have a Gogo on order, I'll try this soon.

I'm not sure on this as all experimentation is based on observation and recording of results, but I think that the filler adjusts to it's ideal shape and density once the carto is full of juice. That's why when the carto has been filled once, topping off is not an issue for consistancy. My thoughts on the spin is that it would tend to compress the filler in the carto. But this is just a guess and Major S has been reporting good results with the spin method on newly filled cartos.

 

[Oddball]

So far, two days into my Go-go I've had no issues filling it. I use the syringe and carefully add about a half mil each time, circling the center hole, stop and then again a minute later until I get the tell-tale drops out of the bottom. I wipe it off and let it sit for a couple of minutes.

My problem now is misfires, i.e. it the light comes on but nothing. Sounds like the battery and atty are not touching. I read somewhere, can't recall exactly which thread, but someone places a small drop of molten solder on the battery tip. I'm comfortable doing that if that appears to be the case but once it's done, it's done. I don't want to drop solder and then attempt to de-solder it.

Anyone know exactly why these are mis-firing? I'm willing to look into it but I don't want to toss out this brand new cart just 2 days into this.

Thanks in advance.

 

[jp1000]

So far, two days into my Go-go I've had no issues filling it. I use the syringe and carefully add about a half mil each time, circling the center hole, stop and then again a minute later until I get the tell-tale drops out of the bottom. I wipe it off and let it sit for a couple of minutes.

My problem now is misfires, i.e. it the light comes on but nothing. Sounds like the battery and atty are not touching. I read somewhere, can't recall exactly which thread, but someone places a small drop of molten solder on the battery tip. I'm comfortable doing that if that appears to be the case but once it's done, it's done. I don't want to drop solder and then attempt to de-solder it.

Anyone know exactly why these are mis-firing? I'm willing to look into it but I don't want to toss out this brand new cart just 2 days into this.

Thanks in advance.

There can generally be two issues with mis-fires. One is from either the battery or atty pin being slightly pushed in. The second is the battery button needs to be turned a bit.

For the pin - if it happens to multiple cartos then you can try 'very gently' to pull up the battery pin just a very small bit. Too much can destroy the battery. Better to try on the carto center pin with a small paper clip - gentle pull up.

For the battery button - try gripping the button and turning it a bit - you may hear a click. See if it works better.

 

[mohawkx]

It also helps to run the battery down until it blinks a bunch of times, then recharge it fully. This reboots the chip inside and the button works from then on.

 

[Oddball]

ThanksJP and Mohawk,

I was thinking this had to be along the lines of the contact being pushed in so I'll try that first. The light though, always lights, it just seems to misfire.
I'll try first pulling up the contact then try to drain the battery completely but that might take a while with no load on it I am going to completely drain a battery no matter what.

Mohawk, have you had success with that option? I'm getting a full 24 hours out of these batteries now so I want to be sure.

 

[Major]

I ramble so much in my posts it may have not been obvious but I have used the Taryn spin to help remove water from carto that I have rebuilt while the filler was still wet. Wonder if I am packing the filler to tightly using the spin?

I haven't tried it on filling though. What I do use is the old thermometer shake on refills and it helps but still not a good distribution to the middle. I'll give the Taryn spin a try the next blank I need to fill and report back.

 

[Ceegary]

I use the Taryn spin when cleaning, not filling though. When I fill, I usually do about 3 different cartos at a time. I do them in stages allowing for some absorption, and bounce them on my mousepad to help get it down. I then continue until it pools and get the drip out the bottom. I usually do that last thing at night and they're good to go the next morning.

I've had no connection a few times, if the bat's lighting it's probably not the bat. I used a needle-nosed tweezer and pull up the center post on the carto, but go gently. It's seated in a plastic rim and if you pull to hard it can come right out. Usually it's just a minor amount pulled out and the contact's good then. However if you screw it down tight it may need adjusting again later, that happens with one of mine. Might also be that it's not as snug in the fitting and get's pushed back in easily. Not hard to do once you get the hang of it.

I'm thinking of a new mod to create a dripper out of a carto minus the filler. Rather than leave the tube in, or more like if you pull the tube out, block the bottom hole then drill the same size hole in the side about 1/4" up from the bottom. That should create the air flow and allow more juice to pool in the bottom for drilling. Don't feel like burning a carto to try it but will next time the situation presents itself.

 

[mohawkx]

Yes I have. I have two kits and the batts would misfire intermittedly. I Kept using them and when they ran all the way down recharged them and I haven't had a misfire or intermitent button since and that was almost 10 weeks ago.

ThanksJP and Mohawk,

I was thinking this had to be along the lines of the contact being pushed in so I'll try that first. The light though, always lights, it just seems to misfire.
I'll try first pulling up the contact then try to drain the battery completely but that might take a while with no load on it I am going to completely drain a battery no matter what.

Mohawk, have you had success with that option? I'm getting a full 24 hours out of these batteries now so I want to be sure.

 

[mohawkx]

I've tried a couple different mods for dripping. My current best mod that I'm using is I cut down a gocart to 1". Then carefully pulled the center tube. Cut a piece of the filler that came out and rolled it between thumb and forefinger into a small rope then inserted it in a ring around the coil and drip on that. It gives you about 7-8 drops with no leaks and drips really nice.

I use the Taryn spin when cleaning, not filling though. When I fill, I usually do about 3 different cartos at a time. I do them in stages allowing for some absorption, and bounce them on my mousepad to help get it down. I then continue until it pools and get the drip out the bottom. I usually do that last thing at night and they're good to go the next morning.

I've had no connection a few times, if the bat's lighting it's probably not the bat. I used a needle-nosed tweezer and pull up the center post on the carto, but go gently. It's seated in a plastic rim and if you pull to hard it can come right out. Usually it's just a minor amount pulled out and the contact's good then. However if you screw it down tight it may need adjusting again later, that happens with one of mine. Might also be that it's not as snug in the fitting and get's pushed back in easily. Not hard to do once you get the hang of it.

I'm thinking of a new mod to create a dripper out of a carto minus the filler. Rather than leave the tube in, or more like if you pull the tube out, block the bottom hole then drill the same size hole in the side about 1/4" up from the bottom. That should create the air flow and allow more juice to pool in the bottom for drilling. Don't feel like burning a carto to try it but will next time the situation presents itself.

 

[BILLB OKC]

Yes I have. I have two kits and the batts would misfire intermittedly. I Kept using them and when they ran all the way down recharged them and I haven't had a misfire or intermitent button since and that was almost 10 weeks ago.

worked for me also.

 

[Major]

What are you gents using to cut the carto tube with? I am guessing a tube cutter but I am pretty tool illiterate.

 

[Ceegary]

Haven't tried that with the filler, but I like to rinse out between juices when I'm trying them so that sounds difficult. I don't cut my tubes down because I love to tail-pipe when I'm dripping so I actually prefer the longer tube.

 

[Debian Dog]

What are you gents using to cut the carto tube with? I am guessing a tube cutter but I am pretty tool illiterate.

Dremmal would work

 

[mohawkx]

What are you gents using to cut the carto tube with? I am guessing a tube cutter but I am pretty tool illiterate.

I used a hacksaw and a 1" ....... file but others have used a tube cutter.

 

[Major]

Thanks for the info! Think I'll try the hack saw and file bit since I am a notoriously bad dremel user. My wife hides that kit from me to keep me from ruining things around the house!

 

[Devonmoonshire]

Thanks for the info! Think I'll try the hack saw and file bit since I am a notoriously bad dremel user. My wife hides that kit from me to keep me from ruining things around the house!

Hey there Major S. Have you stopped by to see Lori at Smokin Vapor on Thomas Drive yet???

Nate aka Darth Vapor

 

[Major]

Hey there Major S. Have you stopped by to see Lori at Smokin Vapor on Thomas Drive yet???

Nate aka Darth Vapor

I dropped by briefly in March when I was just deciding to get started. Very nice folks but with the cost of that store front where real estate is literally sold by the inch (no kidding), her prices are a bit steep. It is a comfort to have a store front for emergency needs though within 3 or 4 miles of home!

Her shop is in a high traffic tourist area that see's upwards of 200k visitors on a summer weekend packed into a few square miles. Being the only true vape shop in my area, I'm sure she get's a lot of traffic for those that prefer to vape along with their adult beverages rather than smoke. Big on the party front this area is.

 

[Quitter]

Wel my GoGo just arrived in the mail. Thanksfully it came with a decent charge on it so I was able to fire it up right away (2nd batt charging).

First impressions:
Bigger form factor than I thought. Right between an eGo and my marital-aid Prodigy V2. Looks like an eGo that overeats! Nice though!

Loaded the cart the old fashioned way (counting drops in the top. Stopped counting around 90). I have a syringe but was too impatient for this first cart.

Airy draw as noted by others but no issues with it.

It's a noisey device. The draw is loud (hinders stealth mode vaping somehat)

Vapor production consistent with 3.7v devices, perhaps a bit stronger. Flavor retention much better than expected. Will see how it holds up with use and more fillings.

Awesome packaging! First device I ever got that was packaged like it costs!

The manual language is a hoot! Love those wacky english translations!!

Nice that the carto doesn't heat up like the smaller 510 & 808's. That's nice when your chain vaping! (I've actually burnt my lips on those before! Took to using the condom with a hole for protection and easier filling)

All in all - at least after 15 minutes - I think i'm gonna like it. I've been vaping for just under 2 years now and have had a pretty big variety of devices. Not saying this is the Holy Grail, but it seems to be a great PV. If only they would've gone to a bit higher voltage than the standard 3.7. I know it comes off the charger at 4+, but I assume that drops quickly like most others. I was hoping that Scottbee would have one by now and give us a true under-load voltage reading (see his battery voltages - surprise thread). That was the big disappointment with the Janty eGo. Under load it's only a 3v device. Hopefully he'll get one and test it.

I'll keep ya posted!