I just stuck one in my Raven fits perfectly and so far so good.
I will give it a while and see how it pans out.
This is what I was saying to do, let us know how this goes please.
I just stuck one in my Raven fits perfectly and so far so good.
I will give it a while and see how it pans out.
I was just wondering if you could put a silicone washer in these bad ones and it would resolve this,,, or also add the steel poll and washer and it would resolve this,,, just a thought

so i just opened my big tank to check for a seal or anything and found the tank tube is cracked in several places around the cap similar to the pic posted couple pages back...
This is what I was saying to do, let us know how this goes please.
and that is what I meant by the company losing. No matter how good they get we will alway remember the ravens in the back of our mind we will always have that quick thought when buying their items. We can forgive mistakes I try my best to forgive any and everything, but who is going to forget this? This was an epic item with deserved epic hype did epic sales and then the company that MADE these failed. You could say it was on purpose but what I think really happened is in the rush to get them out they forgot the tubes and seals and didn't realize it till it was too late. and to save face they are saying they are suppose to be like that.
The point was not if you would buy them or not, but that you would not forget and there would always be doubt about the makerI guess you could see it like that. And it's true, it's to GV's detriment when you look at the big picture. However, the fact that GV has always taken excellent care of me is one of those things that would encourage me to go ahead and push the button even though BetterLife failed in the past.
I guess you could see it like that. And it's true, it's to GV's detriment when you look at the big picture. However, the fact that GV has always taken excellent care of me is one of those things that would encourage me to go ahead and push the button even though BetterLife failed in the past.
I am thinking you meant to quote my post with this response. I hold no ill will to betterlife and I certainly don't blame gv for the ravens, GV has a spotless record in my view, even when you forgot to ship my package for a weeklets not blow this out of proportion, we are working with betterlife, the issues will be handled and we are extra proactive, we dont have to be but we are because we care and we want to improve in every aspect, what other vendor is doing what we do, go ahead I have all day. We rather take the heat and get if fixed then let it slide and deal with it, we at gotvapes have never his form issues and thats why we continue to grow, our customers know that if there is a isuse we will be there and if there is a massive issues we didnt see coming then we will stand behind it and get the issues resolved.
issues dont harm the brand, its how you handle the issue that writes its fate. the vivi novas all sold out in a day when we dropped them months ago and due to a issue that wasnt our doing as we explained they had some minor issues with coil heads, the issues were fixed and then they released to a standing ovation and have rocketed since, all 3 major vision products from stardusts to mini to regular novas are now a world wide name and given praise.
the same will happen with the raven , betterlife will fix it or they will die, and trust me they dont want to go away and have assured us to assure you all whatever issues arise it will be handled, i wasn't around this week so i couldn't be there first hand but now i am and it will be handled accordingly
and the next time there is a revision to the phoenix line, tell me truthfully that the raven fallout will not be in the back of your mind, even if for a second when you press that button to add to cart
Well, that and my memory just isn't as good as it was BEFORE I got married 

your the one making accusations i geuss to ser which ones will stick im not home now but i will be ill let you know more about your self later dont you worrySense Field:7039190 said:Wow hear we go again what exactly are you trying to imply this time ?
What the hell is your problem? I'm so sick of you and your accusations. Get over it man...move on.
The design reminded me if another item that didn't work either. I was implying that perhaps Betterlife copied that carto and ended up with the same results.
Frankly...I think it's big of Dan/Chris to refund everyone's money and I applaud them...so what do you have to say to that?
lets not blow this out of proportion, we are working with betterlife, the issues will be handled and we are extra proactive, we dont have to be but we are because we care and we want to improve in every aspect, what other vendor is doing what we do, go ahead I have all day. We rather take the heat and get if fixed then let it slide and deal with it, we at gotvapes have never his form issues and thats why we continue to grow, our customers know that if there is a isuse we will be there and if there is a massive issues we didnt see coming then we will stand behind it and get the issues resolved.
issues dont harm the brand, its how you handle the issue that writes its fate. the vivi novas all sold out in a day when we dropped them months ago and due to a issue that wasnt our doing as we explained they had some minor issues with coil heads, the issues were fixed and then they released to a standing ovation and have rocketed since, all 3 major vision products from stardusts to mini to regular novas are now a world wide name and given praise.
the same will happen with the raven , betterlife will fix it or they will die, and trust me they dont want to go away and have assured us to assure you all whatever issues arise it will be handled, i wasn't around this week so i couldn't be there first hand but now i am and it will be handled accordingly
I think this goes beyond a simple 'oops, my bad' on the manufacturer's end. Seeing Dan's video is enough to prove that. This is a mess up of significant proportions and will likely follow them around for a while. It was a complete redesign of the product without your knowledge or consent. It's shady and proves them untrustworthy from a customer's viewpoint. From mine, at least.