Actually, I did do it in some of the takes... but after a few, I think I was just too tired to remember everything. I've got to crash, but I will catch you all tomorrow.
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Actually, I did do it in some of the takes... but after a few, I think I was just too tired to remember everything. I've got to crash, but I will catch you all tomorrow.
Lorddavon, i just recently (about 2 weeks or so) starting watching your stuff and it is very informative and interesting; keep up the good work
I pretty much already felt like this about smok Tech. Now is betterlife and Smok tech the same folks? Cuz I was under the impression Smok made these ravens. Maybe I got all cornfuzzled on that. But I've heard a lot of negative about Smok, my few experiences with them has been they come out with great things, but don't pay attn to the details and they end up really muckin up what could be a great product. So I"m very leary of Smok anything, and yet, I was still soooo hoping that this would become my vaping nirvana, that I decided to try them (thinking they're made by Smok) without waiting for reviews etc. So yeah, even being wary, folks will still keep going back til they finally have had enough. And yeah although I hate to jump to conclusions, or assume, it certainly does make one wonder if they just forgot the tubes and seals. Even though I think the holes are different, it would seem that perhaps that was the tweaking that would have been expected.
All righty then. My second attempt with the Raven looks hopeful. The first was like everyone else. Good, dry, good, dry. Just took one of my carto's apart and raised the metal shield on top of the coil assembly approx 1/32". When apart the ends of the wicks looked black. Metal dust of some machining residue powder? Who knows. Anyway rinsed everything off well in hot water. Dry burned. Reassembled, filled with GV Butterscotch and have vaped myself into a nicotene stupor ... again. Dang I hate testing stuff. I honestly can no longer go on tonight. But not one dry hit after at least 30 tokes. At first I was not planning on raising the hood as much as I did but then figured what the hell. For reference my original measurement from the top of the carto to the lip of that cap in the slot was 1.375". I moved it up to 1.340". That cap serves the same purpose as the posts in the other models. The center of it goes into the coil / wick cup and regulates how much fluid the wick is exposed to. Right now it is almost flush with the top of the cup. In it maybe .010" if any.
Yes these still do rely on a slight vacuum in the tank to keep the juice from flooding through. If you don't believe that just raise the top cap after it's filled.
It twisted and pulled apart without too much difficuly. One pair of pliers kinda holding in the slots and the other on the 510 threads. (they are not very pretty anymore) Probably fair a lot better if you cut up an aluminum can and used a piece in between the pliers and where you are holding. Actually copper shim would be best but that's not readily available for most.
I thought I had some lower nic juice to vape but if I do I can't find it.
Just wanted to throw out there that there is a bit of hope. Good vapor so far but the flavor does not seem as good as the XL's. Maybe that'll change tomorrow with a bit more breaking in. We'll see what kind of leakage, if any it gets overnight. So far it's looking OK. Actually a bit better than OK.
Anyway I'll post again tomorrow with an update, good or bad. I realize most folks aren't going to want to play with this and really you shouldn't have too, but if you want to tinker there is a glimmer of light down that tunnel.
OMG just took another toke and still good. No gurgle, no dryness.
Yes these still do rely on a slight vacuum in the tank to keep the juice from flooding through. If you don't believe that just raise the top cap after it's filled.
It twisted and pulled apart without too much difficuly. One pair of pliers kinda holding in the slots and the other on the 510 threads. (they are not very pretty anymore) Probably fair a lot better if you cut up an aluminum can and used a piece in between the pliers and where you are holding. Actually copper shim would be best but that's not readily available for most.
I thought I had some lower nic juice to vape but if I do I can't find it.
Just wanted to throw out there that there is a bit of hope. Good vapor so far but the flavor does not seem as good as the XL's. Maybe that'll change tomorrow with a bit more breaking in. We'll see what kind of leakage, if any it gets overnight. So far it's looking OK. Actually a bit better than OK.
Anyway I'll post again tomorrow with an update, good or bad. I realize most folks aren't going to want to play with this and really you shouldn't have too, but if you want to tinker there is a glimmer of light down that tunnel.
OMG just took another toke and still good. No gurgle, no dryness.
There are countless good vendors out there. You can get vaping supplies from any corner of the globe. But there is only one GotVapes. Once again, in this thread, GotVapes is showing why I spend my money here. I have used other vendors, and mostly have been satisfied, but the level of service and innovation you get here is second to none. You can't say enough to the method in which this issue is being handled. Yes, I drank the koolaid, and it tastes like Crushed Caramel Apple....
Me too I had my heart set on these finally being something I could truly love. The only thing that came close was the grande's. China better wise up before the US catches on and owns them in the market.
One thing I have done that I'd like to pass on as a tip; I have a 510 to 808 adapter I use when I need to grab the threading on a carto, just thread it on the carto, and grab the adapter with pliers. You can put as much pressue as needed without damaging the threads.
I was thinking while looking at an XL and the raven that if you made the diameter of the XL bigger it's basically a raven. The only difference is that the "carto" in the XL (the center tube) has a narrower section. Causing air to speed up in the narrow portion and slow down again when it gets out of the top past the seal. Physics was a long time ago but that should create a low pressure area that pulls juice into the wick. If the carto on the Raven tank were crimpped a bit or somehow airflow through it were limited I think the tank would work as it's supposed to. I left mine at the office since I'd decided it was a dud; but I wonder if pushing a couple or three of those XL mouth pieces (the part we pull out to fill) into the carto tube of the raven would create the same effect.
Had about the same experience as everyone else, except mine works fine maybe 90% of the time. When i do get a dry hit i just let it sit for a bit and its good for awhile. Gotvapes/dan are great and im not upset. : D At least i still got my phoenix xl's
OK, I haven't tried any of them yet, but it looks like out of the 4 tanks and 10 spare cartos that I ordered I did get one tank with the good one in it!
I dont own one but was just trying to think of a solution to making them work instead of having to return it, there must be a tweak you can make to make em work, and I thought maybe adding the silicone washer and or inner tube and silicone washer might be a quick fix, then GV could send those parts.
Wow... Dan should show that to BL and tell them they messed one up!
UPDATE: Dry hit city!
Upon further inspection with a flashlight it appears as though I have the seal in one as I said but no tube inside below it.Off to try and make my throat feel better now!
I just stuck one in my Raven fits perfectly and so far so good.
I will give it a while and see how it pans out.
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All righty then. My second attempt with the Raven looks hopeful. The first was like everyone else. Good, dry, good, dry. Just took one of my carto's apart and raised the metal shield on top of the coil assembly approx 1/32". When apart the ends of the wicks looked black. Metal dust of some machining residue powder? Who knows. Anyway rinsed everything off well in hot water. Dry burned. Reassembled, filled with GV Butterscotch and have vaped myself into a nicotene stupor ... again. Dang I hate testing stuff. I honestly can no longer go on tonight. But not one dry hit after at least 30 tokes. At first I was not planning on raising the hood as much as I did but then figured what the hell. For reference my original measurement from the top of the carto to the lip of that cap in the slot was 1.375". I moved it up to 1.340". That cap serves the same purpose as the posts in the other models. The center of it goes into the coil / wick cup and regulates how much fluid the wick is exposed to. Right now it is almost flush with the top of the cup. In it maybe .010" if any.
Yes these still do rely on a slight vacuum in the tank to keep the juice from flooding through. If you don't believe that just raise the top cap after it's filled.
It twisted and pulled apart without too much difficuly. One pair of pliers kinda holding in the slots and the other on the 510 threads. (they are not very pretty anymore) Probably fair a lot better if you cut up an aluminum can and used a piece in between the pliers and where you are holding. Actually copper shim would be best but that's not readily available for most.
I thought I had some lower nic juice to vape but if I do I can't find it.
Just wanted to throw out there that there is a bit of hope. Good vapor so far but the flavor does not seem as good as the XL's. Maybe that'll change tomorrow with a bit more breaking in. We'll see what kind of leakage, if any it gets overnight. So far it's looking OK. Actually a bit better than OK.
Anyway I'll post again tomorrow with an update, good or bad. I realize most folks aren't going to want to play with this and really you shouldn't have too, but if you want to tinker there is a glimmer of light down that tunnel.
OMG just took another toke and still good. No gurgle, no dryness.
Pics.....?
It slight level differences probably would not show up in most pics that is why he gave the measurements
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