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Carolina Vapoor

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Not that I'm complaining (because I'm really not), but what's to stop me from using Carolina's code instead of mine?

I never even thought to figure up the discounts.

So 30% off a $50 order would drop your price down to $35
40% off a $50 order would drop you price down to $30

I think the better incentive should lean towards the order with a minimum. Order more get a larger discount kind of thing. Basically RML could just switch the percentages...40% of with $50 minimum and 30% off with no minimum.
What are you thought on that and does it make sense?
 

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As Count said you are more than welcome to use his code or even mine for that matter. I do think the percentages are reversed though. Rather it was done intentionally or not I have no clue.

^ Or me since I don't have a personal code

That's the beauty of the codes, Heden. We can share them with others. So, I'm happy to offer you my code so that you may try some of RML's flavors. However, if Carolina offers you the same, which are you going to take? For that matter, if Carolina offers his to me, which should I use? Just sayin'....
 

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I never even thought to figure up the discounts.

So 30% off a $50 order would drop your price down to $35
40% off a $50 order would drop you price down to $30

I think the better incentive should lean towards the order with a minimum. Order more get a larger discount kind of thing. Basically RML could just switch the percentages...40% of with $50 minimum and 30% off with no minimum.
What are you thought on that and does it make sense?
Makes sense to me. That's why I suggested the graduated discount. Mine was based on the number of bottles purchased, but total price point works just as well. Encourage larger purchases with larger discounts....
 

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Funny I just put new coils on my Tobh because I dropped it and a leg broke on one of the coils. So after rewicking I added some CC to it and put in a fresh battery. It almost taste like I am getting a hint of cinnamon from time to time. Might just be coming from the new coils though.

Definitely new coils, burn those off properly, which i know you do, but yeah, heat them up...

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I understand completely. A friend picked up a bottle of Vanilla Bean Ice Cream juice from a local B&M. He gave it to me the day after he bought it and told me if I could vape it I could have it. I took 1 hit and caped the bottle then put it in my looonnngggg term steeping drawer. I have tasted some nasty juice but this was by far the worst yet. It was bad enough that I completely forgot about it because I did not think it would be vapeable even after a month of steeping.

Anywho I was going through that drawer yesterday and came across it. Grabbed my notebook to see how long it had been steeping; right at 6 weeks. I figured well I will try it and if it has not got any better at all I will toss it. It had steeped into a pretty decent juice. I let him try it today and the first thing he said was please tell me were you got that from so I can order some. I handed him the bottle and told him I got it from him. Then the whole steeping discussion started and I think he finally gets why most juices need to steep and some for longer periods than others. Forgot to mention he is the type that is after something he can vape right away rather than waiting for it to mature.


Ice cream, chocolate, banana nut bread. nutella, fudge brownie, sugar cookie.. all absolutely disgusting for weeks, many many weeks, with not even the remotest hint it is vapable when it is fresh made.

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I never even thought to figure up the discounts.

So 30% off a $50 order would drop your price down to $35
40% off a $50 order would drop you price down to $30

I think the better incentive should lean towards the order with a minimum. Order more get a larger discount kind of thing. Basically RML could just switch the percentages...40% of with $50 minimum and 30% off with no minimum.
What are you thought on that and does it make sense?

You can use either one you like. The way i set it was this. Carolina had mentioned he is cool with any price point off of juice. His code only works for juice so i gave it no minimum to order to get a discount but it is only for juice.

Count B had mentioned other perks that interest him, So I set his code to a minimum to purchase but it is for anything we sell, juice, ego kits, evods cleromizers, DIY. So Since one was so much more versatile I made the percent a bit different. I will make you guys new fun codes often. This was just my first off the cuff idea to kinda give folks with two trains of thought or two different buying habits a little flexibility that would work with the way shopify lets me make promo codes.

I will adjust them to something new after this one Expires.Like if you just want one juice and do not want to buy a bunch there is Carolina s Code this week. If you want to purchase a larger quantity or purchase some other things like DIY stuff or some gear, there is Counts code. I was not able to offer a larger percentage on vastness of some of the other items and items that would be coming in.

Also I wanted there to be a way to test what other people would like to see in special offers. The names are more so to track how people want to purchase things. And i named them after the cool people who responded to my request for the ideas.

RML hope that clears that up a touch. This was the beta test of offers this week. We will try something else soon as well so be thinking about what kind of bundles or items you like to see in a shop. I am most likely going to start carrying organic boiled cotton and maybe the elfwick so people can start to be able to get what they need from one spot. If I start offering nicotine I will not be able to offer usps service any more based on the way my shopify is set up.

Obviously most of our new offering will be geared towards drippers but I am debating looking at something for more DIY folks. It just has not been feasible just yet for me to push further into that section.

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I hope I made sense on that.

40% is no minimum and just for juice. anyone wanting just juice with no minimum well, then the carolina code is for them for sure.

But if you are like Count, who likes to one stop shop and place larger orders for things besides just juice. Then Count Bs code is for you. Grab some premade juice, some DIY supplies maybe a few clearomizers and get a % off of all of it instead of just the juice.

RML And yes we will make some change ups to the codes and do some more mentality prodding on how folks view and buy things from online. So by all means tell me how you viewed this code and the way you perceive the way it would interest you or not interest you.
 

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I hope I made sense on that.

40% is no minimum and just for juice. anyone wanting just juice with no minimum well, then the carolina code is for them for sure.

But if you are like Count, who likes to one stop shop and place larger orders for things besides just juice. Then Count Bs code is for you. Grab some premade juice, some DIY supplies maybe a few clearomizers and get a % off of all of it instead of just the juice.

RML And yes we will make some change ups to the codes and do some more mentality prodding on how folks view and buy things from online. So by all means tell me how you viewed this code and the way you perceive the way it would interest you or not interest you.

:facepalm: I completely overlooked the difference in the offerings. With 1 that applies to anything ordered and 1 that applies to on juice it make sense now.
 

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I did, as well. And, to be honest, I'd almost forgotten you carry stuff besides juice.

We are about to add in a few more things. I have been holding off forever on certain things for obvious industry reasons. Not wanting to get stuck with lots of product being the main driver behind that decision.

Cotton is something we have been looking at adding for a bit. I had been going to a local Brick and Mortar and buying the already boiled organic cotton balls for .75 cents each until I decided to invest in the proper setup for boiling my own. (I now have organic Green pans that are BPA Free, Teflon free, aluminium free, PFOA free, Food free as they are used exclusively for Boiling cotton, PTFE free) I am very interested in the Elf Wick and Japanese cotton though as well.

we may have also settled on a few clones to carry but my brother/partner has an equal say in what we carry so we have been trying to agree on exactly what it will be. some of those items I wont be able to offer a site wide discount on. Juice is something I have more leeway on with cost's.

hopefully this will be something I can report on soon.

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:facepalm: I completely overlooked the difference in the offerings. With 1 that applies to anything ordered and 1 that applies to on juice it make sense now.

There is always a method to my madness. Might not always be the best way but it helps me make some upcoming decisions and helps change my mentality sometimes.

Right now I am trying to decide to carry entry level clone mods and entry level RDA's or more higher end advanced RBA and RDAs. I really lean toward Hobbyist myself
so my view is slightly leaned in one direction. Those Magma's interested me until I seen you spoke of the flaws in the first Generation. And obviously I think IGOs are really good because of the price points and the learning curve with it being so easy and entry level.....

Sunday musings =) oh and I wanted to correct my million misspellings of Palate lol. sigh, Spelling and Grammar noob in this chair.

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There is always a method to my madness. Might not always be the best way but it helps me make some upcoming decisions and helps change my mentality sometimes.

Right now I am trying to decide to carry entry level clone mods and entry level RDA's or more higher end advanced RBA and RDAs. I really lean toward Hobbyist myself
so my view is slightly leaned in one direction. Those Magma's interested me until I seen you spoke of the flaws in the first Generation. And obviously I think IGOs are really good because of the price points and the learning curve with it being so easy and entry level.....

Sunday musings =) oh and I wanted to correct my million misspellings of Palate lol. sigh, Spelling and Grammar noob in this chair.

RML

I agree IGO's are good entry level RDA's for the price point. However a lot of RDA's are being introduced that do compete with the price. While they may be a couple dollars more it is worth it for the additional features. I payed about the same for my Tobh as I would have for a new IGO. And IMO the Tobh is just as easy to build on as a IGO W4.

About the Magma's, honestly I would not hesitate to buy one and will order one as soon as funds allow for it. I think the issues with the first run can be chalked up to a QC issue more than likely. According to everything I have read the V2 is top notch and all the issues have been fixed.

As far as carrying entry level or more advanced gear. Well either or both would fit your plan I believe. Offering the advanced gear will cater to those people that are more progressed in their vaping journey. It will also appeal the hobbyist vapers. Both of which are included in the niche market you aim to target. You are also passionate about introducing dripping to the people that have never tried it before. Thus, entry level products would also fit nicely into your overall goal for your business. Just my :2c:
 

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Mine will be in my mailbox when I get home tonight.
I don't see anything about the sale that got me a twofor on the site & don't know how long it will last. elfwick - Home

After seeing this I almost went ahead and purchased some.... but I think I will wait to hear your personal thoughts.
 

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Carolina Cantaloupe - 2 week steep time

RDA(Tobh), Double boiled organic cotton wick, Dual coil clocking in at 0.7 sitting on a Cronus 26650- A very smooth and mellow vape. A very decent RL cantaloupe taste to it. With air wide open flavor is less pronounced and almost has a watered down taste (think cantaloupe and ice blended into a slushy.) Air half closed/open and the flavor is stepped up a notch as well as the sweetness. This is when I get a very clean RL taste from it.

PT3 with optional AFC base, Double boiled organic cotton wick, Single coil clocking in at 1.3 sitting on SVD. First let me say that I have vaped almost an entire tank and thus far only had 1 dry it. So I am not having any wicking issues thus far. I have found this flavor to be very wattage friendly. For me it seems the higher the wattage the more the sweetness shines through. Once you get up to about 14 watts it starts to take on more of a candyish taste. IMO at around 11-12 watts the flavor profile is about the same as it is in the RDA.

Afterthought - I think I am going to do a 1.3 ohm single coil build on a IGO tonight or tomorrow. Then run it on the SVD and see What differences if any there are between the RDA and PT3 running the exact same build.
 

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I agree IGO's are good entry level RDA's for the price point. However a lot of RDA's are being introduced that do compete with the price. While they may be a couple dollars more it is worth it for the additional features. I payed about the same for my Tobh as I would have for a new IGO. And IMO the Tobh is just as easy to build on as a IGO W4.

About the Magma's, honestly I would not hesitate to buy one and will order one as soon as funds allow for it. I think the issues with the first run can be chalked up to a QC issue more than likely. According to everything I have read the V2 is top notch and all the issues have been fixed.

As far as carrying entry level or more advanced gear. Well either or both would fit your plan I believe. Offering the advanced gear will cater to those people that are more progressed in their vaping journey. It will also appeal the hobbyist vapers. Both of which are included in the niche market you aim to target. You are also passionate about introducing dripping to the people that have never tried it before. Thus, entry level products would also fit nicely into your overall goal for your business. Just my :2c:
I can't comment on specific RBAs or RDAs, so I'll leave that to others, but here's an idea:

I know you want to urge people toward dripping and RDAs, but I think with regard to your selection of tanks, you could do better than the evods. I use my evod glasses from time to time because they're small (great for errand running), but I think if you carry just a few tanks, you would be better served by offering Aeros and Nautiluses.

Then include a little bit of text about why you think RBAs and RDAs are an improvement over tanks, followed by recommended starter equipment (kayfun, igo, etc.). From there, you can lead to more advanced equipment.

You don't really need to carry a large selection in any of the categories (maybe two or three items for each) just so long as they are highly recommended and well described. As added encouragement, a full description of exactly how to use them might persuade more people to buy. You can also include links to youtube reviews and how-to's. I think this kind of attention would help in several ways:

1. At the entry level (tanks) you will be providing people a way to enjoy your juices in the best way possible if they don't drip or rebuild. Many people who pick up your juice and, say, an evod will probably say, "meh." Whereas with an aerotank or nautilus, they will definitely appreciate the flavor a lot more.

2. A guided entry into the world of RBAs and RDAs will help those who are bewildered by the array of options out there. New vapers come onto ECF all the time who are interested in something better, but they just don't know what to get or, when they receive it, how to effectively use it. Yes, motivated folks will research and figure it out, but if you take some of the guess work out of the process, you might encourage more people to try it. And having help, right there on the site, on how to use it will keep customers happy. Hand-holding to be sure, but that might be what some people need.

3. With the advanced setups, you could potentially foster some community through comments/reviews. Those comments could then, in turn, help encourage entry-level users to step up.

Like I said, just some thoughts....
 

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I agree IGO's are good entry level RDA's for the price point. However a lot of RDA's are being introduced that do compete with the price. While they may be a couple dollars more it is worth it for the additional features. I payed about the same for my Tobh as I would have for a new IGO. And IMO the Tobh is just as easy to build on as a IGO W4.

About the Magma's, honestly I would not hesitate to buy one and will order one as soon as funds allow for it. I think the issues with the first run can be chalked up to a QC issue more than likely. According to everything I have read the V2 is top notch and all the issues have been fixed.

As far as carrying entry level or more advanced gear. Well either or both would fit your plan I believe. Offering the advanced gear will cater to those people that are more progressed in their vaping journey. It will also appeal the hobbyist vapers. Both of which are included in the niche market you aim to target. You are also passionate about introducing dripping to the people that have never tried it before. Thus, entry level products would also fit nicely into your overall goal for your business. Just my :2c:

Totally agree. I love introducing people to vaping and dripping as well. Sometimes end up in conversations at random places trying to help someone change over. Though I am passionate about much more than vaping - so heated debates, discussions and push pull mentality conversations abound when I am around.

I love having you and Count B around to balance me out. Helps to have other folks around who have opinions that are valued and points of view that expand my own.

I have to add, Tick 22 is skilled and challenges my debating side. I wish he would make his way in here. He expands me, for sure.

Also Heden Aklowd is a fantastic addition to our little circle. There are many from our other beta test thread that I wish would join us here as well.

Anyway, looking forward to your personal reviews on Elfwick - since I feel like I know you guys and how you think. I trust your judgments on the subject.

RML
 
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